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Sonar Chief 11-15-2013 05:45 PM

Spraying epoxy today!!!
 
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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 516070)
Looks good Chief!

On my car, when I removed the original quarter, the door jamb brace nearly fell off of the car. The factory spot welds did not take very well. I had to reweld mine. Check and make sure yours is welded in place well.

:thankyou: The jamb brace is welded nice and strong .... guess someone was doing their job that day :thumbsup:

Got the metal all cleaned up and POR15'd the rusty spots the other night and today was going to be the nicest day of the weekend ... so I sprayed some epoxy, it's easier to heat up the garage if it's 50's outside than 30's!

I also cut up the AMD quarter so I can use the GM window channel and did a test fit .... looks OK otherwise! I'll work on getting the two welded together this weekend I hope!

http://imageshack.us/a/img43/929/j79j.jpg
Cleaned up and POR'd .... much better now!

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/999/orpf.jpg
Sprayed two coats of epoxy .... getting there!

I'm still plugging along .... trying to get out there as much as I can with the weather being so nice. I still need to prep the inside of the quarter and get some Lizard Skin sprayed before it gets to cold ... there's always something to do, huh?

Thanks for looking ....

Sonar Chief 12-01-2013 04:34 PM

Update 12/1
 
This quarter panel is being APITA to get on and back off! Seems the sail panel has an angle to get under the drip rail and it's not the same angle of the dangle needed to get the flange under the door jamb!!!! I did get the window channel screwed into the quarter and cut from the body, marked a couple of spots that needed attention and took the quarter panel off ....

I am thinking of drilling out the door jamb reinforcement and place it on the quarter panel first and then the quarter panel should come off and go back on without tension and fighting the sail panel at the same time getting under that flange. ANY PROBLEMS YOU GUYS SEE WITH THIS? GM built the car from the outside in .... should be ok right?

Here's the lastest pictures ...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/703/dy45.jpg
Actually looking like a car!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/547/lyb3.jpg
Screwed the quarter to the GM window channel!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/541/mwk8.jpg
Kept the GM corner for reference ... NOT AS CRISP!!!!!

Anyway ... couple hours in the garage today, hard to keep it above 50!!!
I'll work on getting the jamb off this week and positioned on the quarter. still need to tighten up some of the gaps around the tail pan too.


Thanks for looking

tubbed69 12-01-2013 05:04 PM

Chief you are doing amazing work,this car will be way better than new,I don't blame you for using your existing window channel because no aftermarket quarter fits right in that area.Keep up the good I mean perfect work your doing,good luck.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

makoshark 12-01-2013 07:25 PM

I remember putting the quarter on and off my car so many times I lost count. It was never easy to take off and put back on. The sail panel area was the area that would give me fits. I feel for ya right now, but it will soon be behind you.

As for the jamb brace, I can't say I have ever seen what you propose, but I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work that way.

waynieZ 12-01-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tubbed69 (Post 519892)
Chief you are doing amazing work,this car will be way better than new,I don't blame you for using your existing window channel because no aftermarket quarter fits right in that area.Keep up the good I mean perfect work your doing,good luck.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Forge on Chief ! Nice work.

Sonar Chief 12-03-2013 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tubbed69 (Post 519892)
Chief you are doing amazing work,this car will be way better than new,I don't blame you for using your existing window channel because no aftermarket quarter fits right in that area.Keep up the good I mean perfect work your doing,good luck.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thank you .... yeah that window channel wasn't even close to GM, I'm glad I was able to save the channel and it will come out better than the repo parts. Just need to get them welded together without too much fuss.

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 519918)
I remember putting the quarter on and off my car so many times I lost count. It was never easy to take off and put back on. The sail panel area was the area that would give me fits. I feel for ya right now, but it will soon be behind you.

As for the jamb brace, I can't say I have ever seen what you propose, but I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work that way.

I think it will work just fine .... just ordered a Cleco kit and extra pins from Eastwood to ease the on/off of the quarter panel, unfortunately it should get here the same time as the cold front .... TODAY!!!!!

So the plan to get some more work done this week .... 6-10 inches of SNOW and it's not gonna get above the teens during the day and negative temps at night ..... and maybe 20 degrees by Monday!!!!

That's too cold to try to heat up to 50 :bang: Wish I could bring the car into the living room to work on!


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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 519952)
Forge on Chief ! Nice work.


Thanks Wayne ... how is your health and the car coming along?

waynieZ 12-04-2013 11:36 AM

Health is pretty good I lost 60lbs sense Sept. and tinkering with the wiring.
Thanks for asking.

67zo6Camaro 12-04-2013 11:46 AM

Sweet detail as usual SC.

makoshark 12-05-2013 02:24 AM

Looks like you pushed that cold weather my way. Weather forecast here is showing as low as 9* for the low Monday night. That is unusually low for around here. I feel for you guys that have to endure these extra cold temps during the winter months.

Sonar Chief 12-05-2013 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 520514)
Health is pretty good I lost 60lbs sense Sept. and tinkering with the wiring.
Thanks for asking.

That's great! Remember the car is also a form of therapy :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by 67zo6Camaro (Post 520518)
Sweet detail as usual SC.

Thanks ... wished it was warm enough to work on the car - today supposed to be 5, that's the high -14 is the low.

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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 520788)
Looks like you pushed that cold weather my way. Weather forecast here is showing as low as 9* for the low Monday night. That is unusually low for around here. I feel for you guys that have to endure these extra cold temps during the winter months.

Yeah it's unusually cold here ... it might hit 20 by Tuesday :thumbsup:

coolwelder62 12-05-2013 09:02 PM

SC, The car is coming along great.Your part's are all cut and waiting to be welded.

Ron in SoCal 12-05-2013 09:05 PM

^ Big Mock...4k posts :thumbsup:

renegade6 12-06-2013 05:40 AM

How are you heating your garage to paint?

Sonar Chief 12-06-2013 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 521021)
SC, The car is coming along great.Your part's are all cut and waiting to be welded.

Thanks Scott .... I'm excited to see it!!!!! Question .... does it matter who I get the solid body bushings from? Just wanted to make sure before I ordered.


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Originally Posted by renegade6 (Post 521060)
How are you heating your garage to paint?

I have a little torpedo propane heater from HD ... when it gets below 30 (it's -4 degrees now!!) it's not going to heat the garage or the car enough to paint. That is why I sprayed when it was 50 and it was easier to heat things up to 70 degrees.

I can't wait for the cold front to get the heck outa here so I can get back in the garage .... supposed to be 10 degrees today!!!

makoshark 12-07-2013 03:41 AM

Did you order a Scott Mock subframe!?:popcorn2:

Sonar Chief 12-07-2013 07:26 AM

How'd u know?
 
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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 521193)
Did you order a Scott Mock subframe!?:popcorn2:

I did :innocent: should be here for Xmas :ups:

makoshark 12-07-2013 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 521215)
I did :innocent: should be here for Xmas :ups:

Awesome! Can't wait to see the pixes of it. What else have you bought that you're holding out on us about?

coolwelder62 12-07-2013 08:00 AM

No, as long they will fit an 1.5 hole in the frame.

Sonar Chief 12-07-2013 08:01 AM

Holding out? Naw that's it ... just bought the bare frame and I will add the C6 stuff, sway bar and rack when funds come in. I needed a subframe to attach the front end sheet metal to ... so it was an easy choice really!!!!

Gonna run 315's on all for corners :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

waynieZ 12-07-2013 08:16 AM

The car should be awesome on Scotts frame.

Steve68 12-07-2013 09:27 AM

Hey Chief, Talked to the guys at Rick's prolly 10-15 yrs ago, they told me,

"we had talked to some guys that worked at GM building Camaros in the 60's, if they didn't go together with less than a gallon of bondo or have to beat the sail panel area with a rubber mallet to get everything to fit it, was not a normal car,

I know my car looked like someone beat it with a ballpeen hammer in the seem on the passenger side, Now, how true is all of this, I'm not sure,

oh yea, I have a SMD subframe too, very nice, building my building right now, so I can work on my car sometime soon,

and stay warm!!! Nice work,

I don't have a thread here or the P-T board, I'm not worthy, but I have one at LStech in the conversion thread,

Sonar Chief 12-08-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 521225)
No, as long they will fit an 1.5 hole in the frame.

So any vendors subframe bushing will work? Cool ....

Quote:

Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 521234)
The car should be awesome on Scotts frame.

Ya know, that's exactly what I said ....

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Originally Posted by Steve68 (Post 521246)
Hey Chief, Talked to the guys at Rick's prolly 10-15 yrs ago, they told me,

"we had talked to some guys that worked at GM building Camaros in the 60's, if they didn't go together with less than a gallon of bondo or have to beat the sail panel area with a rubber mallet to get everything to fit it, was not a normal car,

I know my car looked like someone beat it with a ballpeen hammer in the seem on the passenger side, Now, how true is all of this, I'm not sure,

oh yea, I have a SMD subframe too, very nice, building my building right now, so I can work on my car sometime soon,

and stay warm!!! Nice work,

I don't have a thread here or the P-T board, I'm not worthy, but I have one at LStech in the conversion thread,

How long til it's complete? Get back on the car soon :poke: I read some of your posts over at LS1Tech, pretty cool!

Roberts68 12-08-2013 04:49 PM

Dang Chief, NICE self present... Or present to the Camaro if you rather. congratulations!

coolwelder62 12-08-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 521227)
Holding out? Naw that's it ... just bought the bare frame and I will add the C6 stuff, sway bar and rack when funds come in. I needed a subframe to attach the front end sheet metal to ... so it was an easy choice really!!!!

Gonna run 315's on all for corners :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

The bare frame comes with a splined sway bar and hardware kit.I like the DSE body bushing kit.

makoshark 12-10-2013 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 521227)
Gonna run 315's on all for corners :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

315's all the way around...nice!

What are you going to use for a front wheel well? Modify the stock ones or aftermarket? The stock ones really don't even accommodate 275's:(

Sonar Chief 12-10-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 521560)
Dang Chief, NICE self present... Or present to the Camaro if you rather. congratulations!

Yeah, it's just like Xmas :ups:

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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 521561)
The bare frame comes with a splined sway bar and hardware kit.I like the DSE body bushing kit.

I looked at DSE's, looks nice enough .... but $99 for bolts? That's absurd!!!


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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 521875)
315's all the way around...nice!

What are you going to use for a front wheel well? Modify the stock ones or aftermarket? The stock ones really don't even accommodate 275's:(

I have been looking over newer model cars that have plastic inner wells... kinda like my truck. If I can find a liner that has the same radius and depth I think I can make it work ... if not I'll hack up the GM ones.

Does anyone know if Anvil's inners will fit a 315/30/18 on a 67 ?

Roberts68 12-10-2013 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 521878)
Does anyone know if Anvil's inners will fit a 315/30/18 on a 67 ?

Take a look at Stielows XV thread for comments on the Anvil inner fenders, and watch for comments from another guy posting in there that is also using them. I personally do not know how universal they are for a 67 compared to a 69 but I bet Anvil could answer that for you.

FWIW I bought Speedtech body bushing kit and although I have not put it to use the parts are very nice. If it is the bolts that detract you from the DSE perhaps you want to do your homework and special order whatever bolts you need through your local Fastenal or equivalent store. DSE stuff is truly top notch but $100 for that package seemed rather steep to me too for what it is.

I would comment further on the Speedtech bolts but I have not looked in the box for awhile. I can say I was satisfied when I looked at it or I would have ordered in the very best by now. I get a screaming discount on misc hardware, even the weird stuff.

This is going to be an exceptional Camaro, no doubt about that.

makoshark 12-10-2013 08:15 AM

I purchased Global West bushings. They are very nice and were about the cheapest I found available. As long as they are inter-locking, then they are all pretty much the same.

I just found the Anvil inners say they accommodate 10" wide tires, but they call them deep tub. A call to them would clarify. My 275's are wider than 10" and do fit in the inner tub, but I'm going to do some massaging to the metal to make sure I get no interference later once I get the car drivable. IF I ever get it drivable.

makoshark 12-10-2013 08:19 AM

From Anvil's site...


67-68 INNER FENDERS
67-68 CAMARO INNER FENDER Replace your steel originals with lightweight, smooth carbon fiber inner fenders. Custom made to allow for more clearance in the outer lip, wider and taller than stock. These supercar inner fenders allow 10 inch wide tires to be used on cars with corresponding frame clearances.

coolwelder62 12-10-2013 03:31 PM

SC,look to Mcmaster-carr.com for some nice SS 5/8 bolts.

Sonar Chief 12-14-2013 04:18 PM

Update 12/14
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 521885)
I purchased Global West bushings. They are very nice and were about the cheapest I found available. As long as they are inter-locking, then they are all pretty much the same.

I just found the Anvil inners say they accommodate 10" wide tires, but they call them deep tub. A call to them would clarify. My 275's are wider than 10" and do fit in the inner tub, but I'm going to do some massaging to the metal to make sure I get no interference later once I get the car drivable. IF I ever get it drivable.


Thanks Jeremy ... just ordered the Global West bushing thru Jegs, good price they are interlocking!


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Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 521951)
SC,look to Mcmaster-carr.com for some nice SS 5/8 bolts.

I will look there, there is a Fastenal here in town ... I'll try them first! Thanks.


Got out in the garage with the heat going, finally got above freezing outside ... maybe 40? So I got the jamb brace drilled out and got to use my new Clecos .... those are cool. Definitely made getting the quarter on and off much easier and I could just slip the brace in thru the wheel well opening and cleco it in place and not have to wrestle with the quarter.

The lower part of the quarter that meets the rocker panel is not stamped correctly ... to low in the back and when you push it in place onto the rocker it bows the quarter and puts it under tension .... NOT GOOD!!!!

I'll have to think this one over, meanwhile take a look at the pictures and chime in if you have an idea to get this correct. I don't really want to straighten the flange and re bend it, .....but

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/209/zzj3.jpg
Got the brace off and cleaned up the metal.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/534/4dc5.jpg
Got to use the clecos I ordered ... these are the Cat's Pajamas!!!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/9/05cg.jpg
It makes contact with the rear first and if I force it .... the quarter panel is under tension, NOT GOOD!!!!!!

Only got to work in the garage a couple hours cuz of my back being tweaked ... MRI told of two bulging discs, hurts like heck and my legs go to sleep!!! Anyway, any good ideas on this panel?

Thanks for looking ....

makoshark 12-14-2013 07:40 PM

Ouch! Sorry to hear about your back problems. Is this a recent development or have you been dealing with it often? I know so many people with back problems and it makes me feel fortunate to not, at least, have back problems. Hope it gets to feeling better for you!

Car's looking great, as always.

Snap a picture of the back and at the sail panel area, so we can see more of what's going on. Quarters can be such a pain to deal with, but once you find that magical position, they seem to almost fall in place. You're right though, if it's under tension, then something isn't right.

How does the alignment look at the bumper line in the rear?

Sonar Chief 12-15-2013 07:35 AM

:smiley_smack:
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Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 522811)
Ouch! Sorry to hear about your back problems. Is this a recent development or have you been dealing with it often? I know so many people with back problems and it makes me feel fortunate to not, at least, have back problems. Hope it gets to feeling better for you!

Car's looking great, as always.

Snap a picture of the back and at the sail panel area, so we can see more of what's going on. Quarters can be such a pain to deal with, but once you find that magical position, they seem to almost fall in place. You're right though, if it's under tension, then something isn't right.

How does the alignment look at the bumper line in the rear?


My back was fine until this summer's field work ....must have done somethin'? The alignment at the bumper line looks good ... I haven't really messed with the back much, I'll try and get some pictures today. Supposed to be 49 today ... and if I can get the garage to that temp I'll be happy:)

A fix I dreamed about .... slice off the lower inch, line it up correctly and weld in a piece of 1 inch 18 ga angle! Or... hammer the flange flat and re bend it were it needs to be .....GRRRRRR!

Thanks!

waynieZ 12-15-2013 02:58 PM

Take it easy doing little things in the garage it takes very little to set you back a long way. Hope you feel better.

lodeb 12-19-2013 09:39 AM

Great !
 
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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 522870)
:smiley_smack:


My back was fine until this summer's field work ....must have done somethin'? The alignment at the bumper line looks good ... I haven't really messed with the back much, I'll try and get some pictures today. Supposed to be 49 today ... and if I can get the garage to that temp I'll be happy:)

A fix I dreamed about .... slice off the lower inch, line it up correctly and weld in a piece of 1 inch 18 ga angle! Or... hammer the flange flat and re bend it were it needs to be .....GRRRRRR!

Thanks!

Well, I just read your post and I congratulate you for your courage.
As it must have to do all the body work which you attack you, there is not a place where you do not have rust. Really impressive!

For my part - the other side of the Atlantic because I'm French - I also restore a 1st gen 67 RS SS 396. I order my parts from you in the USA (summit, Rick's) and like you I completely disassembled. Luckily, no rust.

I'll really say congratulations on your perseverance and courage.

http://imageshack.us/a/img838/8146/restauration233.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img545/5751/restauration231.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img40/1289/restauration226.jpg

Et ça c'est juste pour faire la comparaison avec ton travail sur lequel je suis admiratif :thumbsup:

Roberts68 12-19-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lodeb (Post 523774)
Et ça c'est juste pour faire la comparaison avec ton travail sur lequel je suis admiratif :thumbsup:

I had to translate it with Google...

"And that's just to make the comparison with his work which I admire"

I can probably speak for many of us and say that we feel the same way about Chiefs work.

Sonar Chief 12-19-2013 08:10 PM

Thanks!
 
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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 522955)
Take it easy doing little things in the garage it takes very little to set you back a long way. Hope you feel better.

Yeah I know ... just from Saturday's work the back is acting up. I have an apt for my back in two weeks, can't come any faster!


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Originally Posted by lodeb (Post 523774)
Well, I just read your post and I congratulate you for your courage.
As it must have to do all the body work which you attack you, there is not a place where you do not have rust. Really impressive!

For my part - the other side of the Atlantic because I'm French - I also restore a 1st gen 67 RS SS 396. I order my parts from you in the USA (summit, Rick's) and like you I completely disassembled. Luckily, no rust.

I'll really say congratulations on your perseverance and courage.

http://imageshack.us/a/img838/8146/restauration233.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img545/5751/restauration231.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img40/1289/restauration226.jpg

Et ça c'est juste pour faire la comparaison avec ton travail sur lequel je suis admiratif :thumbsup:

France? Nice ... we used to pull into Brest and Toulon for port visits! Thanks for the compliments .... I'm jealous of your car with NO RUST, that would make this project go faster fer sure. At least I know that the work is done correctly and there is no more rust on my car ... I don't want to do this again thou!!!!

And welcome to Lateral G ... lot's of good stuff here!


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Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 523783)
I had to translate it with Google...

"And that's just to make the comparison with his work which I admire"

I can probably speak for many of us and say that we feel the same way about Chiefs work.

Thanks for the translation and the compliment :thumbsup:

Leadfoot1 12-20-2013 05:02 AM

Being that i also happen to speak french....i am very impressed at the precision the program you used to do the translation put out!!!! Usually these programs, for what i had seen so far at least, give you a general idea of the meaning of what your trying to understand/ translate but this is on the dot!!!!!

What was is exactly? Just Google translater?

Lead.

Sonar Chief 01-25-2014 04:58 PM

New Year!
 
Hey .... been out of the loop since Xmas Eve, seems my bulging disc decided to upgrade to a herniated disc when I bent over :confused59: Long story short ... spent every day since on drugs and in pain. Had surgery on the 15th to relieve the nerve impingement ..... discetomy and laminectomy took care of the pressure and the pain.

My sister came over for the surgery and stayed and helped with dinners and the dog .... thanks Kari-Ann. My father comes up and checks on me too ... thanks Len.

Gonna be slow going for awhile, the doc said it looked good and should be ok after 6 weeks or so.

tubbed69 01-25-2014 05:43 PM

good luck with your back,that just sucks to hear


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