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Matt@BOS 02-23-2014 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 538407)
Did somebody ask about Hellaflush:cool:

Hey, I've been reading up and doing a little testing and I might go more hellaflush. Been trying to talk Ron into it too. Wheel size and tire compound seem much more important than tire size by itself... I want to run Dunlop z2 285/30s squared on 18x11s. Wait, did I just say that?

Jr 02-24-2014 11:37 AM

Matt,

The whole car looks sweet!

The front fascia looks classic with a hint of modern. I love it.

With your motor, why is the intake on backwards?

Flash68 02-24-2014 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 538287)
Sitting back on the ground now. One step closer to catching Dave... It might be the only time this little Ford ever does.

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...psd2dfa5ad.jpg

Wow that looks damn good. As evidenced by many other projects, it ain't a slam dunk to make these things "work" and look like they belong there.

And it ain't hard to catch an immovable object.

67XR7 02-24-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 538328)
Ok, one more. It looks funny without the real wheels in the back.

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps4cf5968b.jpg

Oh, and Ron because you want more pictures, he is the other project that has been occupying some time, I'll call it the "Super Secret Project.". Ron, you've probably seen since it almost all buttoned up since Brad said you were over at QMP recently drooling over parts for your, uh, formerly super secret project.

For everyone else, here is a little more Mod Motor goodness. size and cost aside, I really like how smooth they run, and how quick they will rev. I think Rob and Skip might be the only other people out there that will find it cool!

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps6f6f92c6.jpg
Hasn't been dyno'd yet, but we're almost there. It has:
aluminum 5.4 GT500 block, dry sleeved and bored to 3.700," and diamond honed, then destroked with a lightweight billet Winberg crank and complemented with lightweight rods and pistons.
The heads are Ford GT/GT500 castings which have been ported and polished and topped off with custom ground cams and lightweight stainless valves.
Once the Dailey dry sump arrives it will be time to see what it makes! It isn't the cheapest way to make power but it should be responsive, rev to no end and retain more reliability than one of my LS engines..:_paranoid


here I am getting excited about coming up on a 351w this past weekend and i see this? always raining on my parade Matt!

Al Moreno 02-24-2014 12:59 PM

Matt your doing a great job! Very impressive work. :thumbsup: Keep it up

Matt@BOS 02-24-2014 03:20 PM

Thanks guys! It is always nice to receive positive feedback that you haven't screwed up a classic design by changing a few things here and there.

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Originally Posted by Jr (Post 538495)
Matt,

The whole car looks sweet!

The front fascia looks classic with a hint of modern. I love it.

With your motor, why is the intake on backwards?


Just so you guys are all clear, that engine I posted a teaser pic of isn't my engine, although after all the measuring for the car that engine is going on, the manifold may be too tall to fit under the rear glass, and *have* end up on my 5.0 Boss 302 engine.

Matt@BOS 02-24-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 538498)
Wow that looks damn good. As evidenced by many other projects, it ain't a slam dunk to make these things "work" and look like they belong there.

And it ain't hard to catch an immovable object.

I have a feeling this car will look like it belongs there before it runs like it belongs there, but hopefully there is a good enough foundation to work from. I'm starting to understand Ron's madness.

tones2SS 02-24-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 538328)
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps4cf5968b.jpg
For everyone else, here is a little more Mod Motor goodness. size and cost aside, I really like how smooth they run, and how quick they will rev. I think Rob and Skip might be the only other people out there that will find it cool!
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps6f6f92c6.jpg
Hasn't been dyno'd yet, but we're almost there. It has:
aluminum 5.4 GT500 block, dry sleeved and bored to 3.700," and diamond honed, then destroked with a lightweight billet Winberg crank and complemented with lightweight rods and pistons.
The heads are Ford GT/GT500 castings which have been ported and polished and topped off with custom ground cams and lightweight stainless valves.
Once the Dailey dry sump arrives it will be time to see what it makes! It isn't the cheapest way to make power but it should be responsive, rev to no end and retain more reliability than one of my LS engines..:_paranoid

Killer build Matt. Awesome. Car looks great and that engine will rev till the cows come home indeed. I love my 5.0 supercharged Coyote.
What are looking for as far as HP and TQ numbers?

Matt@BOS 02-24-2014 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tones2SS (Post 538568)
Killer build Matt. Awesome. Car looks great and that engine will rev till the cows come home indeed. I love my 5.0 supercharged Coyote.
What are looking for as far as HP and TQ numbers?

For the 5.5L engine pictured, we are shooting for between 550-600. Part of it will depend on the power band. We're looking for more low to mid range torque than most mod motors, while having an incredibly fast revving engine. depending on space (i.e. hood or should I say clamshell clearance) we may run a regular 5.0 Coyote intake on it, which would probably drop power down lower, and sacrifice some top end, but may be worth it for a more linear power band.

For the Boss 302 engine, I'm looking to make 530 at the crank, with headers and exhaust cams and tuning, maybe even a little additional head porting. More would always be nice though.

Track Junky 02-25-2014 07:06 AM

Cars is shapen up to be a beauty Matt. Keep up the good work!! :thumbsup:

Gordz32 02-25-2014 09:22 AM

The car is looking really good Matt, keep up the good work

Matt@BOS 02-25-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordz32 (Post 538689)
The car is looking really good Matt, keep up the good work

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Cars is shapen up to be a beauty Matt. Keep up the good work!!
Thanks guys!

Here is a teaser of the wheels. I've been showing them off like a kid with a new toy. Really happy with the way they came out. They look absolutely killer in person!

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...psb4b246c4.jpg

Sieg 02-25-2014 08:06 PM

The Pony is looking great Matt! Nice work. :thumbsup:

Ron in SoCal 02-25-2014 08:09 PM

^ Now for sure I know I'm rubbing off on you! :lol:

I never knew how good brushed nickel looked until I saw it side by side w brushed chrome at the GNRS. Congrats Matt, they look awesome :cheers:

GregWeld 02-25-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 538545)
Thanks guys! It is always nice to receive positive feedback that you haven't screwed up a classic design by changing a few things here and there.



I'm not sure anyone actually said that Matt.....LOL


We just want you to beat Dave and Rob to completion.

GregWeld 02-25-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 538807)
I never knew how good brushed nickel looked until I saw it side by side w brushed chrome at the GNRS. Congrats Matt, they look awesome :cheers:



All the A arms etc on my Nomad were done in brushed nickel. It has a softer more natural look to it IMHO.

Panteracer 02-25-2014 08:22 PM

65 mustang
 
Love the wheels
Who makes them.

Panteracer Nocal Bob

Matt@BOS 02-25-2014 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 538810)
All the A arms etc on my Nomad were done in brushed nickel. It has a softer more natural look to it IMHO.

How did it hold up? I know some people like to clear coat/powder coat over it. I thought about it, but it looked so nice I decided not to mess with it anymore.

Matt@BOS 02-25-2014 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Panteracer (Post 538811)
Love the wheels
Who makes them.

Panteracer Nocal Bob

Bob, the wheels are NewGens. Delivery wasn't what you would call fast for my set. I'm currently sitting around putting them together myself...

GregWeld 02-26-2014 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 538838)
How did it hold up? I know some people like to clear coat/powder coat over it. I thought about it, but it looked so nice I decided not to mess with it anymore.



After about 7 or 8 years -- all I ever did was wipe it down if the BadMad happened to be on the rack. It was a great choice.

Matt@BOS 02-27-2014 06:21 PM

Finally got the wheels on the car. Sometimes we just need to put on shiny parts because they help motivate us to get things done.

18x11s all the way around. I will need to consult Ron's comprehensive tire spreadsheet to select the best overall tire for my application, but right now it has a set of old Falken 315 mounted up and it looks pretty good. I thought they might look a bit cartoonish on the small car, but the sides of the body hide them pretty well. The rear needs to come down a bit..

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps5f7b314c.jpg
http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps84df3160.jpg

GregWeld 02-27-2014 07:07 PM

Love it!


I just wish I didn't know those are NewGen Wheels....

Payton King 02-28-2014 06:18 AM

The car
 
Really looks nice Matt.

enzo 02-28-2014 07:44 AM

looking good Matt
drop that a$$ though

Jr 02-28-2014 08:14 AM

Gas cap looks sweet.

syborg tt 02-28-2014 08:48 AM

Or just put a giant fan at the rear bumper and sit in the drivers seat so you can feel the wind blowing through your hair.

ps -the car looks incredible !!!

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 539248)
Finally got the wheels on the car. Sometimes we just need to put on shiny parts because they help motivate us to get things done.

18x11s all the way around. I will need to consult Ron's comprehensive tire spreadsheet to select the best overall tire for my application, but right now it has a set of old Falken 315 mounted up and it looks pretty good. I thought they might look a bit cartoonish on the small car, but the sides of the body hide them pretty well. The rear needs to come down a bit..

http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps5f7b314c.jpg


Swain 02-28-2014 10:05 AM

looking good Matt.

preston 02-28-2014 12:49 PM

I'm one of the pickiest critics of vintage mustang hot rod styling there is and I give you the big thumbs up. Really innovative the way you overbuilt the character line to increase width, and having the front fender vent integrated works really well. Surprised it will swallow an 11" wheel. The valence looks good too I think I mentioned it earlier but I hate the standard valences that leave a giant hole in the middle of them with no horizontal surface where the bumper goes.

Mini-lite style wheels always look good. So did Newgen do the nickel brush finish? When I talked to Forgeline last year they said it was too problematic and quit doing it, but it is one of my favorite finishes, too bad its not in my budget.

DOOM 03-01-2014 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 539254)
Love it!


I just wish I didn't know those are NewGen Wheels....

X2!!!!!

fleet 03-01-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 539254)
Love it!


I just wish I didn't know those are NewGen Wheels....

Yeahbutt we can't all have Intros.



:ohsnap:

Matt@BOS 03-01-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by preston (Post 539390)
I'm one of the pickiest critics of vintage mustang hot rod styling there is and I give you the big thumbs up. Really innovative the way you overbuilt the character line to increase width, and having the front fender vent integrated works really well. Surprised it will swallow an 11" wheel. The valence looks good too I think I mentioned it earlier but I hate the standard valences that leave a giant hole in the middle of them with no horizontal surface where the bumper goes.

Mini-lite style wheels always look good. So did Newgen do the nickel brush finish? When I talked to Forgeline last year they said it was too problematic and quit doing it, but it is one of my favorite finishes, too bad its not in my budget.

I had the local plater do them for me.

It was taking so long that I told Jon just to give me the powdercoated centers and inner hoops, and that I would handle finishing the outers. I know things were difficult for him and that he didn't want to end up using money from the orders he was taking to finish my wheels instead of the new customers' wheels. I totally elected to finish them on my own. Besides this was a bit of a bro deal where he sold the old set of new Gens for me to make this set, and as we all know, "bro" deals aren't done on the clock or books and things can take longer. Now, I am upset about paying a deposit for $2200 for a different set of wheels and after two years having nothing more than a set of blank forgings which are now my responsibility to turn into wheels. Those that know me know that I'm patient and not easily bothered, but that was the last straw for me. When this other set of wheels, which are updated 18" concave 6 spoke BRM style wheels, are finished, I will be happy so long as they are my wheels and design, and not New Gens.

Okay, sorry for the rant. I've been patient and understanding much longer than I probably should have been. No matter how upset I was I didn't feel like complaining on a public forum, I guess until now. Oh and since I'm ranting, I might as well get it all out before burying it in the middle of updates on the Mustang build. The set of tires that came off my first set of New Gens were sold on Craigslist to a couple friends of mine. Imagine my suprise when they showed up to a track day with the fresh tires they had just purchased and we both discovered they were mine. Yes, that actually happened, no, Jon never finished the BRM style wheels in exchange for selling my tires.

GregWeld 03-02-2014 06:15 AM

Well golly gee..... Who'd a thunk it?!?!?!?!




I just laugh to myself remembering when he was PM'ing me telling me things were fine and asking me why I'd turned on him and nothing was his fault and blah blah blah... Right there is your answer.


They look great Matt... they really do. I'd still burn 'em kinda like an effigy.

Al Moreno 03-02-2014 11:24 AM

Thank God for the forums as a place for us to help and inform each other.

Matt the Stang is looking Sexy Bro! You are really doing a great job.

WSSix 03-02-2014 02:20 PM

Excellent work! The car really does hide the width of the wheels well. Can't wait to see the car in color. Good luck.

Flash68 03-17-2014 09:33 AM

Steve Strope must feel very fortunate to have the same birthday as you Matt. :cheers:

Matt@BOS 03-17-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 542034)
Steve Strope must feel very fortunate to have the same birthday as you Matt. :cheers:

No way! Strope is so funny and awesome at the same time. He has built some of my favorite cars. He was at The USCA event as a judge and I saw him dusting off his pristine huge black XJ Jaaaag. He was the only guy in the pits detailing his car and we weren't at a car show, nor was he cleaning a show car. :lol: meanwhile my the back of my car was and still is blackened and charred from fire spitting exhaust.

Headed off to Austin tonight. I keep hearing things about this Salt lick place. Do I want to find out what all the fuss is about???

ironworks 03-17-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 542064)

Headed off to Austin tonight. I keep hearing things about this Salt lick place. Do I want to find out what all the fuss is about???

I heard that its only good if you want a place 1000's of people go to everyday that serves good food. Not really the atmosphere we were looking for apparently.

GregWeld 03-18-2014 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 542064)
No way! Strope is so funny and awesome at the same time. He has built some of my favorite cars. He was at The USCA event as a judge and I saw him dusting off his pristine huge black XJ Jaaaag. He was the only guy in the pits detailing his car and we weren't at a car show, nor was he cleaning a show car. :lol: meanwhile my the back of my car was and still is blackened and charred from fire spitting exhaust.

Headed off to Austin tonight. I keep hearing things about this Salt lick place. Do I want to find out what all the fuss is about???



Strope walks over to me at USCA and says "hey Greg... I figure you're the only guy here with a California Duster.... can I borrow it?" Hot Rodders never leave home without one.



Mattman..... THE SALT LICK was awesome BBQ. Kool place. Make sure you check out the 'pit' - the cooks invited me to step back in the kitchen area to check it out. It's visible from the eating area - but it was fun to talk to one of the cooks about it and get a bit closer to the action.

I had the dinner that had a little bit of everything... and it was ALL delicious!

I'll be in Austin tomorrow with Adrienne so she can interview at Le Cordon Bleu College of Culinary Arts. Today she interviews at the Dallas location.

Matt@BOS 03-18-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 542183)
Strope walks over to me at USCA and says "hey Greg... I figure you're the only guy here with a California Duster.... can I borrow it?" Hot Rodders never leave home without one.



Mattman..... THE SALT LICK was awesome BBQ. Kool place. Make sure you check out the 'pit' - the cooks invited me to step back in the kitchen area to check it out. It's visible from the eating area - but it was fun to talk to one of the cooks about it and get a bit closer to the action.

I had the dinner that had a little bit of everything... and it was ALL delicious!

I'll be in Austin tomorrow with Adrienne so she can interview at Le Cordon Bleu College of Culinary Arts. Today she interviews at the Dallas location.

Believe it or not, I had a California duster too. If he knew my car cleaning habits he would have asked me. Mine is barely broken in. Evan who drove up with me in his black '67 had the full compliment of detailing products and didn't use them all weekend. I thought Strope was going to have an aneurism when he saw Evan's dusty black paint.

I'll be in Austin Tomorrow too, at least for part of the day. then we're taking off for somewhere between here, (Austin) and New Orleans. At least I think that's the plan. Perhaps a stop at the Salt Lick is in order, if we have time. Good luck to Adrienne with her interviews this week.

TimeWarpF100 03-19-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 463630)
I always wanted to use this -> :G-Dub:

Now I can. I just bought one of these.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/image...-6007-M50B.jpg
It shipped out yesterday. :G-Dub:

I've got a TR6060 transmission and clutch from a GT500 with under 100 miles on them to try and bolt up. Hopefully it will all bolt together, ha ha, which would allow me start cutting the transmission and fabbing up a transmission mount. In the meantime I've been cleaning up the firewall, and working on mounting a set of Wilwood pedals.

Not sure how I missed this thread, A way cool build Matt!

I just read all 64 pages. . . Looking forward to seeing it completed.


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