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youthpastor 05-22-2017 12:25 PM

Glad to see it's getting finished! Thanks for the comedy hour

Ron Sutton 05-22-2017 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 658089)
I have been extremely fortunate in my lifetime. I was trying to explain to a buddy here (just got out of rehab - and I haven't had a drink for 33 years now) -- about all the people that mentored me - or that shared with me - or that took me under their wing and gave me a chance. Not because of booze etc -- but that just were there and helped me along. I tried to explain "luck" - and that you had to put yourself in a position to get lucky.... take risk... etc. But really -- basically about LIVING and moving forward. There seems to be various STAGES of life.... and we just need to move thru and WITH those stages. We don't know what stage our life is going to be in next year... we don't foresee the future. It's a moving target -- you can move with it or you can freeze up and sit around wishing all was different somehow. F that.

Like I used to tell Rudy (my Brother in Law) -- if you're going to build a car -- then you start by picking up a tool and doing something with it. You've got to do that EVERY DAY.... or they don't get built. Dream, or DO. I like to DO.

I don't have some of the cars - I don't have hardly any tools (one big box is all)... Who cares! That was then and this is now. Yesterday I went to the range with 4 other friends (all new within this last year or so) at 10AM -- We left there when they closed at 5:30. When we were leaving - we discussed NEXT WEEKEND and that we needed to get together after these Saturdays and break some bread.... so we laid plans for that. THAT my friends is good stuff. Spending the day - regardless of what you're doing as an activity - do it with friends and or family.

The new hobby -- long range precision shooting, or just shooting in general -- is every bit as satisfying as the old (building car stuff). It's neither better nor worse because it's very similar.... it's mechanical stuff - it requires some skills - and it's being done with others with similar interests. DONE. Good enough. I'm not hanging around wishin' I could have what I had last year. Last year is gone and in the history book of great memories. Now I'm building new ones.

By the way --- if you don't think there are any skills to garner in some new hobby because you were good at your old one.... HA! Then you need to stretch your hobby to a point where you need to get instructors involved or something to keep your interest level up. Jake (new friend who is only 25 years old - doesn't matter that I'm damn near 40 years older than him) was the state clay shooting champion.... but the long range stuff is new to him. He has mad skills behind a shotgun -- but is learning new skills banging steel at 1400 yards. It's a COMPLETELY different set of skills and knowledge.... Try as he might - using my equipment he couldn't get 'er done.... I was spotting for him (takes two to shoot at these distances - think sniper style and not in a killing way - but you need to see where your point of impact was - read the wind - adjust etc) -- then I jokingly said -- okay if you can't get it done with a box and a half of ammo -- let me show you.... "The old man" sat down and in 8 rounds put three hits on it (two in a row on a challenge of "I bet you can't hit it three times in a row!). It's not one bit different than when we "race" or we challenge each other about horsepower - or how long of a "scratch" we can lay.... or whatever.

Life is what you make of it and it's best done with wide open eyes that are game to seek what's out there. The FUN is the learning and the doing. If you suck at plumbing your car -- watch some videos -- read some articles -- get some scrap and find someone to show you some tricks - my guess is -- you (you is everyone) have some skills they'd like to learn... or just like spending a day doing ****. Next thing you know - you're plumbing your buddies car because you actually gained some knowledge and some skills at something you used to SUCK at. LOL


Now - get out there and pick up a tool (in other words - get out there and do SOMETHING besides watching TV)...... :superhack:


Like-like-like :thumbsup:

I couldn't agree more.


Ns RS 05-22-2017 06:03 PM

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I think that is a good suit. Both super detailed and good with communication. What could go wrong?lol

Harold's stuff flat out works. I've been on tour with them three times, and they take a different/new build each time (he's been 4 or 5). Classy people and great product.

Couldn't agree more. They took this 49 Cadillac last time out on the HOF tour. Just too cool for school, top notch craftsmanship, just glides along but has plenty of giddy up with 1000Hp lsx motor.

kwhizz 05-23-2017 10:58 AM

Fantastic !!!!!!!

wiedemab 05-23-2017 05:46 PM

Awesome!

GregWeld 05-24-2017 08:00 PM

So the First Annual Defied Death Match at Thunderhill went off without too many hitches --- and we all had a blast!! Ron Schwarz - Rob Dickey - Dave Gordon - Scott Siegmund - Bob Braga... and Ron Sutton.... Paul and Mike also showed up and hung around for most of the day!! Good to see EVERYONE!!!

Then Charley calls and we discuss moving the 40 down to the shop in TexASS --- I had a Rotary Lift scheduled for installation on Tuesday -- so that got done - drove to Charley's and picked up the trailer and off I went..... to Winnemucca NV for the night -- then from there to Loveland CO where I am now. That's 819 miles with an empty trailer in 40 and 50 MPH gusting winds.... I think I wore the front tires out keeping the POS of the road.

Tomorrow I'll load up and head south.... By the time I get all done this will be about 5,300 miles of trailer trucking.

God I love living life!! Seriously! Life is such a "trip".... <see what I did there?>

Oh -- I almost forgot -- the Lotus was dropped off at Charley's == Reliable will pick it up when they drop off HellFire -- and take it down to SW's in Austin and we'll see if he can't make it find a new home. It's been a great back up track car! Totally hassle free! Runs and drive so dang well -- but the new little trackside shed just doesn't need three cars in it... and with the lift installed -- that was even more evident. BUH BYE!

clill 05-25-2017 05:46 AM

Reliable is picking up that POS today. I'm not sure I like GW having a shop so close. He keeps showing up.

57hemicuda 05-25-2017 05:48 AM

Can't say thanks enough for the invite Greg, that was a hoot. A track to ourselves with 5 cars to race around, and 3 of them were cool .LOL

Driving a Lotus, a couple Mustangs, and even a Miata, around a new track, what more could a car guy ask for. Racing, wrenching, eating, and of course drinking with really good friends is what life is all about.

I've met Ron Sutton before, had no idea what a goof he is. Tagging Dave with a new bumper sticker for his ride home was priceless.

Adventures like that, melt away the stresses of everyday life. The only problem is sooner or later we have go back to work. Thanks again Greg.

As always, nice pic Scott

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/PW/i...6V0A5347-L.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/PW/i...95212057-L.jpg

fleet 05-25-2017 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 659342)
Reliable is picking up that POS today. I'm not sure I like GW having a shop so close. He keeps showing up.

:lol:


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xplantdad 05-25-2017 01:09 PM

Glad to see everything going well Greg!

GregWeld 05-25-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 659342)
Reliable is picking up that POS today. I'm not sure I like GW having a shop so close. He keeps showing up.



I deleted your number -- Remember in the movie "Pretty Woman" where she answers the phone and he admonishes her for answering it?? Yeah == that scene... LOL

GregWeld 05-25-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 57hemicuda (Post 659343)
Can't say thanks enough for the invite Greg, that was a hoot. A track to ourselves with 5 cars to race around, and 3 of them were cool .LOL

Driving a Lotus, a couple Mustangs, and even a Miata, around a new track, what more could a car guy ask for. Racing, wrenching, eating, and of course drinking with really good friends is what life is all about.

I've met Ron Sutton before, had no idea what a goof he is. Tagging Dave with a new bumper sticker for his ride home was priceless.

Adventures like that, melt away the stresses of everyday life. The only problem is sooner or later we have go back to work. Thanks again Greg.

As always, nice pic Scott





I couldn't have had more fun!! A very special time for sure! We ARE going to do it again!

DBasher 05-26-2017 06:27 AM

Hey you big trucker, I'm going to assume ewe lost service yesterday and that you didn't actually hang up on me....either way, sounds like you're making it happen and it was nice catching up.

Just a reminder...:ttiwop:

Keep on keepin on! No bad days!



ps, they let me out of the psych ward :fluffy:

Sieg 05-26-2017 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 659429)
I couldn't have had more fun!! A very special time for sure! We ARE going to do it again!

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/Thun..._111420-X2.jpg
Pits were a little crowded

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/Thun..._110518-X2.jpg
If that was GW's helmet the 'car' would look even smaller! :D

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/Thun...V0A5277-X2.jpg
.........and clill called the Lotus a POS :rolleyes:

https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/Thun...MG_9817-XL.jpg

The cars are great but its the people that make it special. :thumbsup:

clill 05-26-2017 07:53 AM

That's not the pic you guys sent me. There were more pointed fingers involved.

Sieg 05-26-2017 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 659455)
That's not the pic you guys sent me. There were more pointed fingers involved.

Just more love brother. :thumbsup:

57hemicuda 05-26-2017 09:19 AM

I can have a blower belt on that Mustang in 2.8 minutes, but I can throw the belt in 2.8 seconds.

GregWeld 05-27-2017 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 57hemicuda (Post 659467)
I can have a blower belt on that Mustang in 2.8 minutes, but I can throw the belt in 2.8 seconds.

That car owned you......

GregWeld 05-27-2017 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 659446)
Hey you big trucker, I'm going to assume ewe lost service yesterday and that you didn't actually hang up on me....either way, sounds like you're making it happen and it was nice catching up.

Just a reminder...:ttiwop:

Keep on keepin on! No bad days!



ps, they let me out of the psych ward :fluffy:





Yes ---- I did hang up on you.... next time call with something interesting. LOL

I've just spent 3 days driving from Nor Cal --- thru Wyoming - Colorado - NW Texas.... Cell service should not include the word "service". Even with my new Verizon service (switched from AT&T after 15 + years) "service" was less than stellar in TexASS.....

GregWeld 05-27-2017 06:36 AM

So back on track <see what I did there?>....... We'll defer to the OP reason for this thread. Something about a '40 Ford Pickup build.....

I pulled the build from Pinkee's Rod Shop... for no other reason than I'd like to try to get it done before I die. I love Eric - the shop does fantastic work - but I no longer have the luxury of infinite time. I might live to be 100 -- or the stents in my liver could plug up tomorrow (or today!).... and I'm on the GREG WELD time table now. That means CHOP CHOP GET IT DONE!

Left the smiling douchebags in California - and headed to Loveland Colorado with an empty trailer (in 40 and 50 MPH gusting winds!! OMG)..... and loaded up the poor old '40..... and headed off to Georgetown Texas... got here yesterday and unloaded.






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GregWeld 05-27-2017 06:43 AM

Adrienne is currently working under Chef John Carver at RED ASH in downtown Austin. They're opening another new "concept" restaurant - with a completely new menu in a couple weeks - and then she'll move there and be the Sous Chef. I have to tell you -- I ate at Red Ash last night.... and it was OMG good! So you guys in Austin.... bring your appetite and wallet - and do it.


By the way --- the LOTUS was shipped from Charley's to SW's in Austin.... maybe he (SW) can make it go away. I just don't have room for 3 track cars in my new little space at Thunderhill.... It's a FANTASTIC car... but old yeller is the one that cranks my heartrate up...


Gwen and I will be flying back here for Gwen's birthday (undisclosed number) and maybe the grand opening of the new restaurant... and a trip out to Custom Hot Rods of Andice to come up with a plan for the 40 after they do some assessment.

GregWeld 05-27-2017 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 659454)
https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/Thun...V0A5277-X2.jpg





.........and clill called the Lotus a POS :rolleyes:



The blower belt seems to have "issues" - thank god we had half a dozen spares.... to turn in to trash. I believe it's a simple idler issue or a misalignment or mismatch of pulleys.... There's no reason to eat belts in less than 1.59 seconds. It will be fixed post haste.





https://photos.smugmug.com/Cars/Thun...MG_9817-XL.jpg




The cars are great but it's the people that make it special. :thumbsup:




For those that don't know names and faces..... this is THE TEXT TRAIN (AKA: Bozos - except Sutton is NOT part of that because he has an actual life).




From Left to right looking at the photo (the other left, dumbass.... LOL)



Rob Dickey (FETornio) - Dave Gordon - Ron Schwarz - Bob Braga - Payton King (sitting).... other side of table in back - Scott Siegmund - Ron Sutton (hat) and Fat Ass Dead Guy.

clill 05-27-2017 07:19 AM

I lost 1 belt and figured it was when engine was stuttering at the rev limiter so I shifted below the rev limiter and never lost another belt. Then I look at the pic of the bozos and see what happened.:lmao:

Sieg 05-27-2017 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 659518)
I lost 1 belt and figured it was when engine was stuttering at the rev limiter so I shifted below the rev limiter and never lost another belt. Then I look at the pic of the bozos and see what happened.:lmao:

It's a beautiful car :thumbsup:

I only drove it once on my last session of the day to verify over-heating was due to low coolant. Never threw a belt, though I doubt I took it over 5.2k and didn't miss a shift. It does have a bit more power than the Miata.

One thing about Team Bozo....... they were fast at belt changes. :D

waynieZ 05-27-2017 09:49 AM

Nice to have some faces to go with the names. It looks like it was a good time!

GregWeld 05-27-2017 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 659518)
I lost 1 belt and figured it was when engine was stuttering at the rev limiter so I shifted below the rev limiter and never lost another belt. Then I look at the pic of the bozos and see what happened.:lmao:




It's no different than the other car I bought from you... it'll be fine after a complete rebuild. LOL

I managed to drive it just fine without tossing the belt. Dave couldn't even get out to hot pit before he tossed one.... however it is a dumb issue that shouldn't happen.

57hemicuda 05-28-2017 04:49 AM

That white car and I did have a love/hate relationship, every time I left in it I ended up wrenching on it. Really nice car, just needs a day or two of sorting. Trying to road race while never taking your eyes off the tach, was harder then I thought it would be. Funny when you purposely try to baby something, and not run it hard, you almost can't drive it.

Old Yeller on the other hand, was like being home. Much like my Mustang, its a hammer. You take it out of the box, beat the crap out of it for as long as you want, and put it away til the next time.

That was the best mancation ever.

DBasher 05-28-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 57hemicuda (Post 659565)
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Old Yeller on the other hand, was like being home. Much like my Mustang, its a hammer. You take it out of the box, beat the crap out of it for as long as you want, and put it away til the next time.

That was the best mancation ever.

That's a perfect description of not only Old Yeller but any track toy! Glad you all had a good time, hope to be around for the next one.

:flag2: :cheers:

Flash68 05-28-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 659515)
but old yeller is the one that cranks my heartrate up...


I thought I got it before.... but now I really get it. :Tomcat:

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 659524)
Dave couldn't even get out to hot pit before he tossed one....

is that what they call premature.... X(#&$#&& ?

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Originally Posted by 57hemicuda (Post 659565)

That was the best mancation ever.

Amen, sir.

And then there were 7.....

Flash68 05-28-2017 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 659522)
Nice to have some faces to go with the names.

Well.. yes and no. :lol:

DBasher 05-28-2017 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 659580)
Well.. yes and no. :lol:

Mostly no...:lol:

Sieg 05-29-2017 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 57hemicuda (Post 659565)
Old Yeller on the other hand, was like being home. Much like my Mustang, its a hammer. You take it out of the box, beat the crap out of it for as long as you want, and put it away til the next time.

That was the best mancation ever.

That pretty much sums it up :thumbsup:

GregWeld 06-05-2017 06:24 AM

Pinkee's may eventually figure out a couple reasons for why they lost this project....


#1 - When you provide detailed billings, and every single item - page after page of work items - they're all "magically" 10 hours per item....


Funny.... Some of these guys must think the customer was born last night. I've personally done ALL of the work to build a car - many times over - in the last 40 years.... and have had 3 high end cars professionally built. No work - ever - takes exactly 10 hours. End of story. I don't care what the explanation could be.

****** Just so people understand***** a builder is never BILLING ME..... they are always working off of a cash deposit that is paid IN ADVANCE -- usually 20 to 25 grand at a time (more if the project is just getting started - so they can order stuff and have it ready to go). I understand the needs of small business... cash is king... I expect my projects to become "important" to the builder. I'm the kind of customer any shop should want to have. I understand the process... I know exactly what I want to have built.... and I pay up front. What more is there a guy could do?


#2 - Once again billing issues.... Funny that all the "freight" items are in even dollars. Never a $197.65 --- nope! $200..... Not a $10.95..... that turns into a $20


Well of course it did. LOL



#3 - All that metalwork -- and there's still patch panels left to do in the cab area? WTF.... That seems real efficient - floors are out - firewall is out - corners of the cab are cut and replaced.... and the cab is mounted on the chassis - fenders mounted - doors mounted - hood mounted - bed mounted - and there's still holes in the cab..... YEAH NO! Just stupid.


I've learned a few things when dealing with these shops.... #1 -- when you become suspicious or just plain unhappy with the work - or the speed of the project etc -- MOVE IT!! I should have pulled the Frisbee '32 project about 2 months after starting it. I disliked the guy and his shop manager from the start - not pulling it was a big mistake.

The best builder in the universe so far? Brizio. They tell you "about" what the job is going to be - they were so close..... Quote was "$250 to $275+ depending on all the choices" - actual $283. Car was virtually perfection. There were many upgrades that weren't included in the initial cost discussions (which were broad brush stroke discussions). The car was finished in MONTHS (18ish) not years.....

I didn't have him build this truck - because I didn't want a "300k" daily driver pickup truck. Pinkees labor rate is $50 an hour - Roy's is $105 - (one is in expensive SF bay area - one is in Colorado)..... when you just factor the hours to build stuff like this ----- 1500 ish ----- that labor rate is a big swing factor. But I've said it here before, many times. If the "expensive guy" bills you one hour for something and the "cheap guy" bills you 4 or 5 hours for the same thing.... now who is "expensive"? I remember looking at the labor billing for the exhaust system on the '33 (Brizio)... it was $800 TOTAL.... I've paid that and more for "exhaust shop" work on normal cars! Pinkees billing might have looked more like -- 10 hours for exhaust tips -- 10 hours for cutting exhaust -- 10 hours for welding exhaust tips -- 10 hours for mounting exhaust -- 10 hours for removing and checking exhaust clearances..... :BlahBlah: :BlahBlah: :BlahBlah: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :bang: :bang: :bang:


We'll see how this next shop does. So far - the conversations with the shop foreman have been spot on! The ideas of what should be done from here - right on the money. We'll see if performance is on par with the "talk". After building these cars all my life - I'm pretty hard to BS. The work "flow" --- What it takes -- yeah.... I understand all that really well. The talk and the fact - that's where we get down to the nitty gritty. :lol: :lol: :lol:

SSLance 06-05-2017 08:42 AM

I think it was 2012 at Russo and Steele that I spent 3-4 days babysitting a Corvette we were selling which was parked next to Pinkee's Mustang they were selling at the same auction. The car was fantastic, and the couple that was there representing it seemed nice enough as well.

There was something very "used car salesmanish" about the vibe I got anytime any interested parties stopped by to look at the car though and they seemed put off by those that came by just to look vs those that were there looking to buy something. Most car people LIKE talking about the cars they've built with just about anyone that is interested...potential buyer or not. Not so much with these guys.

Hope the new shop does you well Greg. It continues to amaze me how many horror stories I hear from people having cars built by shops. The car my friend had built here in KC recently was just a measly $100k build...yet the shop still did just about everything wrong on the car and took 3 times as long as they said it would to get the poor job done. They used 100% flex lines used for the brakes, not a hard line ANYWHERE...just one example. This supposedly by one of the best hot rod shops in this area too...

fleet 06-05-2017 09:12 AM

Explanation for Pinkee's billing method???


Ketzer 06-05-2017 11:12 AM

Jeezus. Not again. Sorry GW.

A friend of mine was discussing hotrod stuff with me the other day and asked if I had been by so-and-so "shop"... I had never heard of them. He asked about three or four other "shops" in my area... Never heard of them either. He said they were all full of cars, projects in various stages of build. None getting finished.

I really don't see how people survive trying to get their dream car built.


Jeff-

GodSpeed 06-05-2017 01:16 PM

It's really unfortunate to hear this. I bill for what gets done in a day, not a completed part. Every employee has a detailed log book and I convert those notes to billable time. My guys work over 8 hrs a day plus lunch and no breaks. There are no cell phones allowed in the shop and everyone keeps very busy. I never bill 8 hrs, because I do not believe anyone is 100 percent efficient. I typically bill 6 hrs for every 8 that my top guys do. Less for less efficient guys, but the quality is what remains my utmost desire and what we deliver. Also all work in my shop is scheduled, meaning that if it is in the shop its being worked on everyday till it leaves. My track record speaks for itself as do my customers. This is where we came up with the #wedontstorecars and we stand by it. We bill every two weeks, and only take deposits for parts we need to buy. We have enough capital and we are debt free we don't live off deposits. Nor do we rob Peter to pay Paul. Its just never works long term. I hope your truck is on the right path and you can be driving it soon.

Thom
SaltWorks Fab
Sarasota, Fl

214Chevy 06-05-2017 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GodSpeed (Post 660033)
Nor do we rob Peter to pay Paul.

There are so many shops that do rob Peter to pay Paul. I've had my fair share of them.

glassman 06-05-2017 02:50 PM

I cant figure out how to post IG here, but @CHRAtexas just posted pics of a certain frame section of a "41" pick-up....looks nice, very nice....

fleet 06-05-2017 04:12 PM

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I cant figure out how to post IG here, but @CHRAtexas just posted pics of a certain frame section of a "41" pick-up....looks nice, very nice....

Just take a screen shot of it...bruh.

:D


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