Sweet man...what pulley are you going to run?? Pump gas or race??

Well we are running the smaller pulley for now which used to hit 14psi with no intercooler when Don/Jody were running it in Don's 69. But now it is only seeing 9 or 10psi with my intercooler setup, which concerns me a bit. That's a large boost drop - shouldn't be that big. One of the things I want to try to figure out...

Just pump gas for now I think, but I do want to talk to the tuner about a separate file for race fuel in the future, but maybe after I get a stronger block! :_paranoid

Hi Dave,
 

Sounds like you had a great trip to GG show. my car was stalled a while do to lack of funds. I am back in line now. there are a couple cars ahead of mine but Jason is doing his best to schedule me in. gas and brake lines were the last items installed. Next items will be interior center console and most electrical components hooked up including dash/ac/power windows/alarm/ac etc. peterson oil tank will need to be hook up before we can fire motor. So its getting closer to being finished. Hopefully by Autorama in Feb. 2010. I'll try to make it by Gearhead on thursday.

Tony:thumbsup:

Cool Tony, glad to hear you are back on the project. Maybe we will both be at that Autorama deal... will have to talk to Jason about that for me. I might not qualify with all the other nice cars in the shops like yours and the silver 69. :D

I should be up there late afternoon sometime if you are around the shop. Maybe I'll see ya. :cheers:

Simple fix.

Black intercooler.



:D

:rofl: the only way to know is hook a boost gauge between the blower and intercooler to see if it reads higher than the one in the intake manifold. I think that blower has an 1/8" npt plug in the outlet housing where you could hook up a mechanical boost gauge temporarily to see. If it shows 14 psi there then the issue is the intercooler or you've got a big boost leak between the intercooler and engine. If it shows the same boost before and after then you've got belt slip issues, which are fairly common with the stock ATI tensioner (though Don never had a single problem with his, which is why we left it alone). SD Performance Concepts makes a much better tensioner for that , it's a direct replacement and I and many others run it instead of the stock ATI one.

Jody

I plan to do the SDCE tensioner over the winter if the funds are looking good. Jody what size is that pulley you guys used for 14 psi on Don's 406??

I remember it being a 3.85", but not positive.

Jody

Haha you and Jody both like that idea huh. :D I like it too but I just love the looks of it sticking thru the grille and it continues to match the color/finish of the engine compartment. Very industrial. Don't wanna hide it just yet!


That's right I remember you said that now. I will see if these guys can do that tmrw night at the dyno Jody. I have read about the SDPC stuff and it is spendy but looks to be the top shelf ticket for this problem. We'll see if I have belt slippage I guess.

I thought the 2 pulleys we had are 4.25" and 3.75" but maybe it is 3.85"

It's actually SDCE, I think I was thinking of Scoggin Dickey also.......... :thumbsup:

http://www.sd-concepts.com/

Hey Dave, have fun at the dyno, dont get too crazy.

Cool thanks Jody. I hope I won't need it but I know where to go if I do!

Ha thanks Mike. But isn't that the point? :lol:

Results????????...:willy:

Well fellas.. it was just one of those damn days...

Got up to the shop and took Vertigo out for a spin before we headed over the dyno shop. Romped on her pretty good up and down the frontage road. Just trying to break in the clutch of course :unibrow:

Took a couple videos and pics before sundown.

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So after the fun and games we head over to the dyno about 5 miles from the Gearhead shop but she is running like total crap, spittin and moanin like an exhaust leak of some kind.... get to the shop and see that the IC piping had moved a bit, knocking a pulley into the upper radiator hose and puncturing it. But the motor also sounds like it is down to 7 cylinders.... so needless to say we decided not to dyno tonite. :mad:

Then.... to really cap off my evening.... I get about an hour of the way home from Sacto to SF and right before stopping for some BBQ in Berkeley for some late dinner and a couple beers, my shifter comes detached from the tranny in the Porsche... must be either the linkage or the cable. So I leave it there on the street, walk the block to the BBQ joint, eat and have a beer, then walk 2 miles to BART (the bay area public train) and take that back to the city, then get on MUNI (the dirty-ass public bus) and then walk about a mile back to my place.

Awesome night. I go from first (romping on a procharged pro-touring Camaro) to worst (public trans and then walking home). :lol:

I love cars. Not. :willy: ;)

P.S. At least once both my rides were out of commission for the day, I decided to hit the beers hard. Nothing beats drinking some good beers on public transportation. Hey, everyone's doin it! :D

WOW Dave,

What a turn around.. Jason always told me the car would strand me at some point...didnt know that includes daily drivers. I am sure MUNI sucked.

I am sure Jason will get it figured out soon... and we will be back driving again.

OMG -- Couldn't help but laugh at your story... sorry! You probably would have punched me if you were here... but it was just such a visual. You sitting in the Porsche holding up the shifter... and all the public transportation.
:woot:

:rofl: You're going to be an alchoholic soon. Pretty rough luck! Porsche was just jealous.

Damn Porsche! At least the Camaro didn't leave you stranded.....
We'll reschedule the Dyno so we can BOTH dyno our cars at the same time- should be good fun!! Perhaps a late night run back to the shop with 'em?

I thought you had enough of our sweet public transportation on the GoodGuys weekend- since yours was tied up inside. Pretty weak story! Don't bang those gears so hard and maybe the shifter will stay attached. Worse yet, I'm sure the shifter handle & repair on the Porsche will cost way more than ANYTHING on the Camaro ;)

I still don't get what's going on with that engine; it was flawless in Dons car, no mechanical issues. Had a tuning issue at one point with intake reversion and the single plane manifold it had, but the StealthRam solved that.

Jody

Car looks great Dave! Hopefully you guys get all the issues sorted out on her soon to do the dyno. Nice pics!!:thumbsup: :cheers:

Yeah. All I really ask is that my cars don't break on the SAME DAY! :willy:

Going to be? :_paranoid Yeah I have been cheating on the Porsche. And rightfully so.

Yeah I am sick of Bart and Muni at this point. Sigh.... Well the shifter linkage might not be cheap, but it should be cheaper than the a blown head gasket and now the work needed on the IC/radiator hose (if we go solid) and getting it back to a full 8 cylinders. Shiat. :mad:

I don't get it either Jody. I wish I knew. It really has been problematic. :(

Thanks Tone. Yeah it's always something.... good thing I am going on 8 day vacation next week I guess. :cheers:

You were supposed to laugh. It was just one of those days and you really have to laugh it off to stay sane. :)

Sorry to hear this Dave---keep moving forward--A guy once told me (this was during my procharger blow thru the carb dark days) that if we can put a man on the moon, that I could figure out my tuning issue. I eventually did, I just had to keep after it--slowly at times. It sucks when your daily driver takes a crap on you at the same time---

Thanks for the video and the new pics. Car really looks awesome.

Doug

Thanks Doug. And you're right... what can ya do but keep chuggin. Yeah it's funny, I was talking to the dyno operator while they were messing with another car and he was saying he loves tuning a blow thru carbed procharged setup over the older EFIs like mine. I said I'd heard nothing but troubles of everyone I knew or read about with that setup... he said no way they are a piece of cake! Interesting...... :cheers:

Dave, I know you have referenced "Don" in some of these convos with Jody--was this Don C's (aka Mr. Toads Wild Ride) Don? Was this the motor out of his sons nova?

No, Don is a good friend of Jody's and Jody built this motor originally for Don's 69 Camaro. It was in PHR several years ago... but when I bought it it had very low miles (less than 1000) and had been taken apart and refreshened/inspected by Jody. I had no question the motor was in great shape.

http://www.camcojb.com/estel/index.htm

All is not lost Dave. I saw this recently...

"Kramerica Industries recently announced its plans to perfect the 7 cylinder internal combustion engine which will simply be called 'Seven'. Kramerica states this is another effort on their part to reduce GBL WAMR"

Did your momma drop you?:D

LOL man----LOL---that is freaking funny Skip. That incorporates multiple posts and multiple Seinfelds----:rofl:

Thanks Doug. :thumbsup:

As you know, its real easy to get that Seinfeld stuff into you, but its real hard to get it out of 'ya. :lol:

Like Dave said, its best to at the end of the day to laugh about mishaps like this.

Hey Dave, Let me know when you guys are going to dyno, would love to tag along in my modest powered car.

Sorry if I missed it but what by-pass valve are you running? And where do you have it dumping the air?

Ah I am sure you will hold your own Mike. ;) I think maybe the week after next assuming both Jason's and my car are sorted out.

Bypass valve? Sorry I am not aware... :_paranoid :question:

Well good news update today that the 7 cylinder thing was just a bad spark plug... whew. And the split radiator hose was a minor deal, although we are considering a solid pipe for that since the clearance is pretty tight between the IC piping and the pulley.

Hope to be back on the dyno maybe as early as next week! :woot:

J, is your car beast gonna be ready to go?

Good to hear that they were just minor fixes!!
Good luck on the dyno Dave!:cheers:

Good deal man thats great news! Now get that baby dialed in....:cheers:

Dude--is the Porsche back in business as well? Does the shifter coming off and staying in your hand happen a lot with those cars? Was the dealer like "Oh yeah, we just fixed that on another TT model yesterday"---? Better than the steering wheel I suppose.

Glad to hear it was just a plug brother---was it on the same cylinder that lost the head gasket by chance?

Doug

Yes it was quite a relief. Thanks Tone. :thumbsup:

Thanks Ron. I can't wait to dyno! :woot:

Hey Doug, yes the stupid Porsche was a fairly quick fix. Luckily I found a short-shift kit the next day and picked it up same day. And it was a B&M product, which was on my car when I got it, and apparently this is not that uncommon. :mad: Junk I guess.

Oh, and I avoid the stealership like the plague. :lol:

Not sure on which plug - I am vaca and Jason and I just exchanged texts... I wouldn't think they would be related since we addressed the area where the head gasket was compromised.

Hope to get dyno numbers soon! :cheers:

Lateral-G friends... my awesome designer friend whipped up this website in no time for me. Let me know your thoughts! :cheers:

http://www.vertigocamaro.com

Dave
 

Cool website. I really enjoyed it. Happy Thanksgiving....