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Sieg 11-07-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 445208)
That is great to hear that Norwood is soon going to be back in one piece.
:thumbsup:

Can you explain a bit about the valve you have in your brakes besides a proportioning valve? I think it was a metering valve that you said applies the rear just a bit prior to the fronts.

I'm not sure how "track" oriented that mod is and if there are some negatives I should be aware of. If you have a sketch of your plumbing I would love to see it. As I recall we have mostly the same components.

Thanks!
Robert

Thanks Robert.

The stock metering valve is retained when using drum brakes, it directs pressure to the rear brakes slightly ahead of front brake.

The red valve is a 10 lbs residual valve. Here's Wilwoods description:
Wilwood ten pound residual pressure valves retain a minimum brake line pressure to help eliminate excessive pedal travel in drum brake systems. With drum brakes, a ten pound valve is used to compensate for return spring tension and maintain wheel cylinder sealing in the drums. Residual Pressure Valves are made from billet aluminum and color coded for easy identification.

Here's the proportioning valve, the drawing shows the frt/rear in/out so you can figure out the plumbing: http://www.wilwood.com/MasterCylinde...emno=260-11179

Roberts68 11-07-2012 04:47 PM

It is all coming back to me... slowly.:P

That wilwood link either did not play nice with my mobile or just didn't like me. I got your basic Wilwood product search page.

I have the red valve for rear drums you mentioned. I have the Wilwood combination distribution block and Proportioning valve. You lost me at stock metering valve retained.

Where does that typically reside? Mine was a manual drum/drum car and is a '68 if that makes a difference.

I thought way back months ago when I had noticed our similar parts (albeit mine for "Someday" reside in boxes yet) I could have sworn you had a brass colored aftermarket metering valve... or at least I remember looking one up in Speedway. Maybe I did not see it on Norwood?.. or maybe after 40 I just make $hit up to confuse myself and share it with others.:_paranoid

WSSix 11-08-2012 03:22 PM

Congrats on getting the car running Scott :thumbsup: As frustrating as it was, I'm glad it was something simple.

Sieg 11-08-2012 05:48 PM

Robert,

Your drum/drum car probably didn't have a metering valve.

Check this Wilwood proportioning valve, it has metered valving for drums.........if you plan on staying with the drums this would be a cleaner installation than using the GM metering valve which is over $100.
http://www.wilwood.com/MasterCylinde...emno=260-11322

Here is a GM metering valve:
http://www.classicindustries.com/camaro/parts/pv68.html

Sieg 11-08-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 445438)
Congrats on getting the car running Scott :thumbsup: As frustrating as it was, I'm glad it was something simple.

Thanks Trey..........frustratingly simple. http://www.desmonorthwest.com/forums...confused58.gif

Vince@Meanstreets 11-08-2012 06:39 PM

How does it drive? : D

Sieg 11-08-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 445477)
How does it drive? : D

Loaded into the trailer last night to go back to the shop to get the front clip reinstalled, exhaust connected, and a few other misc. items. It felt pretty good feathering the clutch up the ramp and into the trailer. Neighbors probably thought it was a little loud though. :D

Roberts68 11-09-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 445467)
Robert,
Your drum/drum car probably didn't have a metering valve.

That is a distinct possibility I would go along with. I do have a distribution block that was off the master but it did not appear to be any more than a junction block to me.
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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 445467)

That is the same combo-prop valve I have at Tobin's recommendation. We had spoke of your car before I ever saw it here. I actually originally found your thread in a Google image search for prop valve mounting ideas.

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 445477)
How does it drive? : D

You may have more willpower than me... or possibly Vince. Either he was teasing you or like me he would have been tempted take at least a brief rip with open wheels given the chance. You'll be flogging it again in no time though, as I prepare my snowblower.:rolleyes:

intocarss 11-09-2012 12:25 PM

Your name is Scott?? :yes:

Sieg 11-09-2012 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 445600)
That is the Wilwood 260-11322 link again rather than the GM part. Don't sweat it on my account though. just FYI

http://www.classicindustries.com/camaro/parts/pv68.html
I edited my post so someone doesn't get messed up, could do the same in the quote? :)

If you have that Wilwood prop valve it's has the metering delay built in so you're good to go. I didn't want that one because I'm going to rear disc in the future.

Sieg 11-09-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 445602)
Your name is Scott?? :yes:

My friends call me Sieg :yes: :D

Roberts68 11-09-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 445603)

If you have that Wilwood prop valve it's has the metering delay built in so you're good to go. I didn't want that one because I'm going to rear disc in the future.


:_paranoid I did not know this one had built in metering for drum that would be a detriment to disc later? I looked back at my emails and I do have Wilwood Combination distribution block/proportioning valve 260-11179

Not necessary to muddy your thread with this, I can defer to Tobin at Kore3 to verify. I appreciate your help though, better to raise questions now than replumb later.:willy:

intocarss 11-09-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 445605)
My friends call me Sieg :yes: :D

OK then I'll call you Jim :woot:

Sieg 11-09-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 445616)
OK then I'll call you Jim :woot:

Works for me Richard! :woot: :woot:

intocarss 11-09-2012 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 445619)
Works for me Richard! :woot: :woot:

HA HA HA that's perfect cuz I have been called a D*ck :unibrow: :P

Sieg 11-09-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 445691)
HA HA HA that's perfect cuz I have been called a D*ck :unibrow: :P

Dick Cranium? :D

DFRESH 11-09-2012 08:40 PM

Congrats bro----that is great news! And the motor and engine bay looks great btw. Hope everything else goes smoothly--------ya, I know--but I can wish if for you at least. At least your shifter doesn't leak anymore.

D

Sieg 11-10-2012 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DFRESH (Post 445706)
Congrats bro----that is great news! And the motor and engine bay looks great btw. Hope everything else goes smoothly--------ya, I know--but I can wish if for you at least. At least your shifter doesn't leak anymore.

D

Thanks Doug, very much appreciated. :thumbsup:

Exhaust was reconnected yesterday and I turned in all my itemized reciepts so if all goes well it may be complete next week. Aug. 8 was when it went into the shop, doesn't feel like it's been 3+ months.

Overall for a low budget surprise project I'm satisfied with the results to date. Verdict is still out on the motor and the winter weather is here so Redneck style test and tuning will be weather permitting for the next 5-6 months. :D

No shifter leaks and more importantly no front oil pan leak which the car has had since I bought it 20+ years ago!

All said and done it has gone very well, Todd Fortier of Todd's Autobody has been a pleasure to deal with. There have been no tense moments or conflicts through the project with the silly ground issue being the only minor frustration.

The support of the :lateral: family really helps in projects of this nature. The support wether it's techical, emotional, harassing, or off-topic humor is invaluable. :thumbsup:

intocarss 11-10-2012 07:00 AM

Congrats Jimieg!! And we'll want some tire smokn videos when she's all ready! LAT-GTTFMF's

GregWeld 11-10-2012 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 445745)
The support of the :lateral: family really helps in projects of this nature. The support wether it's techical, emotional, harassing, or off-topic humor is invaluable. :thumbsup:



I feel so emotional right now....




<rummaging around in my bag looking for "the bird" icon>


:thumbsup:

Sieg 11-10-2012 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 445751)
I feel so emotional right now....

<rummaging around in my bag looking for "the bird" icon>

:thumbsup:

.........and I feel obligated to help considering all the assistance you've generously shared whether it's cars, welding, financial, and so much more.

http://www.acurazine.com/forums/imag...ies/finger.gif


http://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider/Rogue.gif

Seriously........thank you, the AFR's made this all worthwhile. :thumbsup:

intocarss 11-10-2012 05:59 PM


WSSix 11-10-2012 06:26 PM

Threads like this make me question if I should wait until my car is finally finished before I post any pictures :D


So do you have an expected "completion" date? Maybe an early X-mas gift perhaps?

Sieg 11-10-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 445748)
Congrats Jimieg!! And we'll want some tire smokn videos when she's all ready! LAT-GTTFMF's

You know it!
Us Orygunian's are a little slow on acronyms......TTFMF's? :(

Sieg 11-10-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 445869)
Threads like this make me question if I should wait until my car is finally finished before I post any pictures :D


So do you have an expected "completion" date? Maybe an early X-mas gift perhaps?

Chicken!

Trey - I'm guessing it should be out of the shop by the end of next week. :thumbsup:

Tucker is the early Christmas gift, found out his birthday is 12-23-2010. :D

WSSix 11-11-2012 11:17 AM

Awesome! Glad you'll get it back so soon.

Roberts68 11-16-2012 03:46 PM

So? Will Norwood make it home in time for Turkey Dinner?:D

Sieg 11-16-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 446773)
So? Will Norwood make it home in time for Turkey Dinner?:D

Looks like he'll be attending :thumbsup:

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-h...-hSGW6jz-L.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8...-8qC94cF-L.jpg

intocarss 11-16-2012 05:41 PM

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET :yes: :yes:

Roberts68 11-16-2012 05:44 PM

That is great news!:woot:

GregWeld 11-16-2012 05:44 PM

It's for sale.....


Tucker won't fit so a new long roof car is probably in order....:lol: :thumbsup:

Sieg 11-16-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 446791)
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET :yes: :yes:

GoPro video to follow...........weather pending!
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Originally Posted by Roberts68 (Post 446793)
That is great news!:woot:

YES! :cheers:
Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 446794)
It's for sale.....


Tucker won't fit so a new long roof car is probably in order....:lol: :thumbsup:

Nope!

With the rear seat removed he'll be comfy-cozy at least I think his head will fit out the quarter window. I could just yank the passenger seat, that would get a few looks in traffic. :D


Thanks guys, the thoughts are truly appreciated. :thumbsup:

FETorino 11-16-2012 06:41 PM

Wow you're going to have a running Camaro this year:thumbsup:

You'll be the envy of Dave, Ron and Matt :unibrow:

:cheers:

Sieg 11-16-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 446809)
Wow you're going to have a running Camaro this year:thumbsup:

You'll be the envy of Ron and Matt :unibrow:

:cheers:

LOL! You left out Dave. :unibrow:

WSSix 11-16-2012 06:52 PM

Glad to see it coming along.

FETorino 11-16-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 446814)
LOL! You left out Dave. :unibrow:

I thought DG quit building that..... Really no updates lately:rolleyes:

Sieg 11-16-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 446816)
Glad to see it coming along.

Thanks Trey :thumbsup:

Sieg 11-16-2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 446817)
I thought DG quit building that..... Really no updates lately:rolleyes:

That should be bait him away from the dishes and ironing board............say around 12:30 am :rolleyes:

Vegas69 11-16-2012 09:29 PM

It's still not out of the question that my car will be running before the California triplets. The car that I haven't thought about, decided upon, purchased, or built. :lol:

Flash68 11-16-2012 10:32 PM

Man that color pops in that picture. Looks so fresh and sweet! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 446814)
LOL! You left out Dave. :unibrow:

RUDE! :lol:


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