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camcojb 05-19-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 214Chevy (Post 712685)
Like me builder told me...I was trying to squeeze 10 lbs of s#!t into a 5 lb bucket. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Exactly!

protour 05-20-2021 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 712684)
Always does. Starts out looking nice and open and as stuff is added the room is gone lol. The intake will be bending to the drivers side, across the top and then down. The real fun will be getting it out of and into the intercooler. With the four headlights of the 70 I can't fit it through the radiator support like on Malitude, so it'll have to snake underneath around the frame, hopefully not hanging down and visible from the front of the car.

Is the engine intended to be installed that far forward? Seems very far forward. My passenger head has 3/4" between it and the firewall, I see you can fit your coils between the head and firewall!

camcojb 05-20-2021 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by protour (Post 712706)
Is the engine intended to be installed that far forward? Seems very far forward. My passenger head has 3/4" between it and the firewall, I see you can fit your coils between the head and firewall!

Funny you mentioned that. I've been debating moving it back, there's advantages and disadvantages. I have the Dirty Dingo sliders so it'd be easy to slide back. My buddies 72 is in the same position and rides and handles just fine.

The reason I had it forward was "street car" so the difference in weight balance wasn't a major concern to me. Plus I wanted a simple coil relocation setup, I like the looks and fit of the ADE brackets. It also gives me more room at the back of the engine for EFI wiring, and access to the bellhousing bolts.

Moving it back gets me better weight balance, and more room between the radiator and engine. Might also be the difference in not having to trim the inner hood for intake clearance. But now I have to find a spot to mount the coils (not a huge deal). Turbo position should work but will be closer to the inner fender. Will have to re-do my upper radiator hose, and the rear fuel line into the intake, but minor stuff. IF I'm going to do it now is the time.

Bottom line, it was easier to do it the way I did, but since when are these cars supposed to be easy? :lol:

protour 05-20-2021 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 712716)
Funny you mentioned that. I've been debating moving it back, there's advantages and disadvantages. I have the Dirty Dingo sliders so it'd be easy to slide back. My buddies 72 is in the same position and rides and handles just fine.

The reason I had it forward was "street car" so the difference in weight balance wasn't a major concern to me. Plus I wanted a simple coil relocation setup, I like the looks and fit of the ADE brackets. It also gives me more room at the back of the engine for EFI wiring, and access to the bellhousing bolts.

Moving it back gets me better weight balance, and more room between the radiator and engine. Might also be the difference in not having to trim the inner hood for intake clearance. But now I have to find a spot to mount the coils (not a huge deal). Turbo position should work but will be closer to the inner fender. Will have to re-do my upper radiator hose, and the rear fuel line into the intake, but minor stuff. IF I'm going to do it now is the time.

Bottom line, it was easier to do it the way I did, but since when are these cars supposed to be easy? :lol:

I was scratching my head at the space between the rad and front drive. I run truck accessories and was wondering how in the world I have more room than a car front drive haha.
I definitely understand you're reasoning! It does look great so far, just had to mention it :)

dhutton 05-20-2021 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 712716)
Funny you mentioned that. I've been debating moving it back, there's advantages and disadvantages. I have the Dirty Dingo sliders so it'd be easy to slide back. My buddies 72 is in the same position and rides and handles just fine.

The reason I had it forward was "street car" so the difference in weight balance wasn't a major concern to me. Plus I wanted a simple coil relocation setup, I like the looks and fit of the ADE brackets. It also gives me more room at the back of the engine for EFI wiring, and access to the bellhousing bolts.

Moving it back gets me better weight balance, and more room between the radiator and engine. Might also be the difference in not having to trim the inner hood for intake clearance. But now I have to find a spot to mount the coils (not a huge deal). Turbo position should work but will be closer to the inner fender. Will have to re-do my upper radiator hose, and the rear fuel line into the intake, but minor stuff. IF I'm going to do it now is the time.

Bottom line, it was easier to do it the way I did, but since when are these cars supposed to be easy? :lol:

Since we are critiquing your build do you have any concerns about exhaust heat cooking your fan motors? It looks close in the pics. I know you can wrap the pipe but the insulation is not perfect. That being said I don’t know chit about building a turbo engine :)

Don

ScotI 05-20-2021 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 712721)
Since we are critiquing your build do you have any concerns about exhaust heat cooking your fan motors? It looks close in the pics. I know you can wrap the pipe but the insulation is not perfect. That being said I don’t know chit about building a turbo engine :)

Don

I've had similar thoughts as well. Lots of these turbo set-ups on the NET & it's always had me wondering about exhaust heat related impact on items not normally subjected to the issue.

camcojb 05-20-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 712721)
Since we are critiquing your build do you have any concerns about exhaust heat cooking your fan motors? It looks close in the pics. I know you can wrap the pipe but the insulation is not perfect. That being said I don’t know chit about building a turbo engine :)

Don

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Originally Posted by ScotI (Post 712724)
I've had similar thoughts as well. Lots of these turbo set-ups on the NET & it's always had me wondering about exhaust heat related impact on items not normally subjected to the issue.

I don't. For one, I just moved the engine back 2"... :superhack: Plus I'm going to use Zycoat on the pipe; they claim it reduces radiant heat by 90%. Reviews look very good. If I'm not happy I'll also wrap it. On Malitude the pipes I wrapped with Thermotec wrap could be touched after driving without burning.

camcojb 05-24-2021 06:05 PM

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Changed my mind and decided to remake the upper hose tubing, to get both bends in stainless 1.5" tubing. Moving the engine back gave me the additional room, before it was too close to get the 90 degree bend into the radiator in solid tubing, the molded hose could do a tighter bend.

dhutton 05-25-2021 06:20 AM

Hi Jody. What are you using to put the bead in the tube?

Thanks,
Don

camcojb 05-25-2021 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 712826)
Hi Jody. What are you using to put the bead in the tube?

Thanks,
Don

Don,

I've had the Bead Form bead roller for many years, works fantastic. At the time there weren't many others, but now there's several similar units.


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