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tones2SS 11-26-2009 12:53 PM

Cool website.:thumbsup:

Flash68 11-26-2009 04:12 PM

Thanks guys. Happy TG!

fleet 11-26-2009 05:06 PM

Well thought out Dave. :thumbsup:

DFRESH 11-26-2009 05:40 PM

Very cool site---gotta get me one of those---

Flash68 11-26-2009 07:27 PM

Thanks Skip and Doug. It's nice to have talented creative friends. :)

awr68 11-26-2009 08:44 PM

Nice website Dave, and thanks for adding me to the list...it was fun helping over the years!! :cheers:

A website for my car is planned for next year (long time coming!)...along with many other things!! :willy:

Makes me very happy that you are enjoying yours from behind the wheel now!!

Flash68 11-26-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 250627)
Nice website Dave, and thanks for adding me to the list...it was fun helping over the years!! :cheers:

A website for my car is planned for next year (long time coming!)...along with many other things!! :willy:

Makes me very happy that you are enjoying yours from behind the wheel now!!

Thanks Tony, and it's been fun chatting about our builds and parts/mods and what not. We've both come a long way and taken much different paths compared to our original intended paths! :lol:

Soon I hope to see you enjoying the drive time as well. :cheers:

nvr2fst 11-26-2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 250445)
Lateral-G friends... my awesome designer friend whipped up this website in no time for me. Let me know your thoughts! :cheers:

http://www.vertigocamaro.com

Dave, Web site turned out great.
Not sure if you posted it prior but Ill have to back track and read about Dougs post mentioning the shifter in the Porsche ending up in your hand.
Dave

Flash68 11-26-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nvr2fst (Post 250653)
Dave, Web site turned out great.
Not sure if you posted it prior but Ill have to back track and read about Dougs post mentioning the shifter in the Porsche ending up in your hand.
Dave

Thank you Dave.

Yes, it was quite a day having the Camaro essentially have too many issues to dyno tune in Sacramento, and then the Porsche leaving me stranded a few hours later in Berkeley. Pics of B&M short shift kit below... I replaced with another brand. :)

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/DSCF2634.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...8/photo4-3.jpg

phillym5 11-27-2009 11:10 AM

Have you ran the camaro against the Porsche yet??:unibrow:

I have been back home driving my Porsche... and i REALLY miss the camaro. :(

Flash68 11-27-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by phillym5 (Post 250753)
Have you ran the camaro against the Porsche yet??:unibrow:

I have been back home driving my Porsche... and i REALLY miss the camaro. :(

Have not ran them... they both need to be operating at 100% at the same time in order for that to happen! :lol: But as of now I am quite sure the P-car would win any race, due to traction mainly. Once the Camaro is dialed in, and from a roll at say 50-60, it could be interesting.

Yep, as nice as the comforts of the P-car are, it just ain't the same as driving in a forced induction 1st gen Camaro. :cheers:

You run your 2 head to head yet?

Vegas69 11-27-2009 03:07 PM

You really need a chance to get used to your car and make all those small adjustments that make you more comfortable.

Flash68 11-27-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 250792)
You really need a chance to get used to your car and make all those small adjustments that make you more comfortable.

I hear ya brother... hopefully it is just the beginning.

Vegas69 11-27-2009 09:57 PM

I hope so budro, the tweaking and tuning is a HUGE part of making these cars great. Ask me how I know.:unibrow:

phillym5 11-27-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 250791)
Have not ran them... they both need to be operating at 100% at the same time in order for that to happen! :lol: But as of now I am quite sure the P-car would win any race, due to traction mainly. Once the Camaro is dialed in, and from a roll at say 50-60, it could be interesting.

Yep, as nice as the comforts of the P-car are, it just ain't the same as driving in a forced induction 1st gen Camaro. :cheers:

You run your 2 head to head yet?

I think you need to get these tires i have for the camaro. Nitto's.
http://www.nittotire.com/#index%2Etire%2Ent05

I have them on my camaro. They hook extremely good. Unbelievable actually.

As far as a race between my Porsche and camaro... I havent had them in the same state yet... but im certain my camaro in low boost would smoke the hell out of my porsche. The porsche has the 24/18g set up and runs a consistent 11.0@132. The Camaro is retarded.. and i've only been running 8 lbs of boost(I would guess 140 trap). But a 60 mph hit on the camaro.. there is no boost lag(V8 helps forsure)... and it covers WAY more ground in a way faster time than the porsche. I can't wait to feel 14lbs in the camaro. I am guessing a trap close or above 160.:_paranoid

GregWeld 11-28-2009 09:00 AM

Josh --

You better just stick to skatin' and give that Camaro to me... before you hurt yourself. :rofl: :rofl:

Glad to hear you're having fun with it!

Flash68 11-28-2009 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by phillym5 (Post 250891)
I think you need to get these tires i have for the camaro. Nitto's.
http://www.nittotire.com/#index%2Etire%2Ent05

I have them on my camaro. They hook extremely good. Unbelievable actually.

As far as a race between my Porsche and camaro... I havent had them in the same state yet... but im certain my camaro in low boost would smoke the hell out of my porsche. The porsche has the 24/18g set up and runs a consistent 11.0@132. The Camaro is retarded.. and i've only been running 8 lbs of boost(I would guess 140 trap). But a 60 mph hit on the camaro.. there is no boost lag(V8 helps forsure)... and it covers WAY more ground in a way faster time than the porsche. I can't wait to feel 14lbs in the camaro. I am guessing a trap close or above 160.:_paranoid

I am a Nitto guy already (running 555s front and 555 DR's rear) and looked at the NT05 but they dont come in anything wider than 275 in 18s. Are you running the 335 in 19s I must assume? Heard great things.

My P-car should be fairly close to your numbers with my alpha 28s and meth injection. Haven't taken to track yet. But your Camaro is an absolute beast my friend. I would love to have TT on mine, but I have to go easy on my Procharged boost for now as I am still on a stock 400 2 bolt block. :_paranoid I really want to add a Dart Little M block and crank the boost to 18psi or whatever the max is with my D1SC. Hopefully someday. :woot:

Have a 1/4 day planned for the Camaro yet? 160 trap would be epic!

phillym5 11-28-2009 10:26 AM

I don't have a day "planned" for the track... winter is just about here and the tracks are closed now. But here in my "Michigan" world and car scene... you can't have a fast car with out running it. You'll get haggled something serious.. so i will have to run it this spring.

Real problem is... it only has a 4 point cage.. no chute... no fuel turn off...ect. So i'll probably only get one pass.... even though im good friends with the track manager... and he lets things slide... going more than 150 through the traps will be pushing it. Maybe we will rent the track this spring.

And yeah.. 335 19's.

How much boost are you running right now??

Greg... I have to stick to skating... how else would i pay for this crap!! You know im just a "Dirty Ghetto Kid"!! :lol:

Vegas69 11-28-2009 10:32 AM

Come on out and we'll run em down the track together. I still need to get min out to the 1320.

GregWeld 11-28-2009 11:18 AM

[/QUOTE]Greg... I have to stick to skating... how else would i pay for this crap!! You know im just a "Dirty Ghetto Kid"!! :lol:[/QUOTE]


Yeah right! Love ya buddy -- have fun with that Camaro... I'm dyin' to see that KB video!

Flash68 11-28-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by phillym5 (Post 250941)
I don't have a day "planned" for the track... winter is just about here and the tracks are closed now. But here in my "Michigan" world and car scene... you can't have a fast car with out running it. You'll get haggled something serious.. so i will have to run it this spring.

Real problem is... it only has a 4 point cage.. no chute... no fuel turn off...ect. So i'll probably only get one pass.... even though im good friends with the track manager... and he lets things slide... going more than 150 through the traps will be pushing it. Maybe we will rent the track this spring.

And yeah.. 335 19's.

How much boost are you running right now??

Greg... I have to stick to skating... how else would i pay for this crap!! You know im just a "Dirty Ghetto Kid"!! :lol:

Yeah I hear ya... or if you aren't hooking up just let out of it and brake til you get that really good pass and give it all its got. :D Knowing the track mgr sure don't hurt!

I'm only running about 10psi now, but this motor and block have seen 14psi when it hit 700rwhp when previously dyno'ed.

I'd really love to crank it up to 20psi. :D

awr68 11-28-2009 01:49 PM

Did Jody run a differant pulley to hit 14psi?

Flash68 11-28-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 251011)
Did Jody run a differant pulley to hit 14psi?

Nope, same pulley but we have an intercooler setup which we figured would result in 2-3 psi drop max, but we are seeing 4-5 psi drop lately. So we are going to check for boost leaks and try to test boost at the procharger on the dyno day and see what the deal is. Something is definitely going on....

awr68 11-28-2009 02:09 PM

Might have to change the PC pulley to make up for the IC drop? Keep me in the loop on this...I may have the same corrections to make!

Flash68 11-28-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 251023)
Might have to change the PC pulley to make up for the IC drop? Keep me in the loop on this...I may have the same corrections to make!

Absolutely. I hope there is just a leak somewhere, otherwise a smaller pulley will be in order to dial up the boost.

What psi are you targeting for yours?

6D9 11-28-2009 02:15 PM

When are you hitting the chassis dyno?? That would be way cool to go down to Vegas and run the 1/4 with Todd.

Flash68 11-28-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 6D9 (Post 251027)
When are you hitting the chassis dyno?? That would be way cool to go down to Vegas and run the 1/4 with Todd.

Probably in the next couple weeks. Probably will try it at SVS again in Sac. Good guys over there. They have a SuperFlo dyno which I do not know alot about. Need to research...

I would love to run Todd in the 1320. :D

awr68 11-28-2009 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 251026)
What psi are you targeting for yours?

We (Frank) only gave ATI a hp goal, not sure what psi we will hit until I look at the boost gauge. I may play with pulleys down the road...but if we hit the target hp I will leave it alone and just work the bugs out of the car first.

Flash68 11-28-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 251080)
We (Frank) only gave ATI a hp goal, not sure what psi we will hit until I look at the boost gauge. I may play with pulleys down the road...but if we hit the target hp I will leave it alone and just work the bugs out of the car first.

and this hp goal is....... ? :unibrow:

awr68 11-28-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 251117)
and this hp goal is....... ? :unibrow:

My origional hp goal was 600+ (50% gain) and ATI said that I should have no-prob hitting that! And that was after telling them that I was going to use the stock bottom end, stock heads, a Hot Cam, but go to 1.6 rockers....and no IC.

As you know things have kinda changed and now I can through more boost at it. They set the ProCharger up for the 'original plan' so I will have to see what pulley is going to get me where I want to be in the end. I wouldn't mind making a little more power...but I want the car drivable. Time will tell!

Flash68 11-28-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 251120)
My origional hp goal was 600+ (50% gain) and ATI said that I should have no-prob hitting that! And that was after telling them that I was going to use the stock bottom end, stock heads, a Hot Cam, but go to 1.6 rockers....and no IC.

As you know things have kinda changed and now I can through more boost at it. They set the ProCharger up for the 'original plan' so I will have to see what pulley is going to get me where I want to be in the end. I wouldn't mind making a little more power...but I want the car drivable. Time will tell!

Oh I do know how things change. ;) Man you should have no problemo hitting that modest hp goal with your setup. You can still pulley up to achieve approx 15psi with the P1SC or close to it I believe? Should be a nice machine. How much is the LT1 block purported to be good for horsepower-wise?

Cam specs handy? Head flow #s?

awr68 11-28-2009 08:10 PM

Nothing is handy right now....my feet are on the desk! :lol:

I have no worries....Jody was aiming for way more power with the TT LT1 build. Since Mike worked his magic on the block, it is now a splayed 4-bolt, we went with all forged internals, ARP fasteners, a real blower cam, and Comp valve train the only thing holding it back is the stock unported heads...they may get worked over down the road. But for now I have what I have and it has to work!

Flash68 11-28-2009 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 251127)
Nothing is handy right now....my feet are on the desk! :lol:

I have no worries....Jody was aiming for way more power with the TT LT1 build. Since Mike worked his magic on the block and we went with all forged internals and a real blower cam the only thing holding it back is the stock unported heads...they may get worked over down the road. But for now I have what I have and it has to work!

Feet on the desk? Hey, it is Saturday night I guess. Don't work too hard. :D

Well it sounds like a stout foundation, but I am a bit surprised you are not touching the heads... here is what I quick found on the stock LT-1 heads so not sure if it is 100% accurate:

the LT1 cylinder head has a 54.0cc combustion chamber 1.94/1.50 valves w/170cc Intake Port volume. The LT4 has a 54.4cc combustion chamer 2.00/1.55 Valves w/195cc Intake Port volume. LT1 heads flow about 212 CFM.

Man, that seems to be a serious restriction in your motor. I am still quite sure you will produce tons of power, but a simple port/polish job on that for $1000 give or take could probably be worth 80-100hp I would think. Those stock flow #s are pretty anemic.

Heads are pretty easy to remove and have work done to especially when compared to the level of car you are building at this point eh? :unibrow:

Just trying to make things harder for you buddy! :cheers: :lateral:

awr68 11-28-2009 08:31 PM

You are correct! But sadly I don't have the $1k for head work right now. My long term plan is to buy some donor heads as they can be had cheep and have them worked over...to the max! Then during the non-driving season swap them out. If I choose to do it right now the car will never get finished! :willy:

Flash68 11-28-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 251133)
You are correct! But sadly I don't have the $1k for head work right now. My long term plan is to buy some donor heads as they can be had cheep and have them worked over...to the max! Then during the non-driving season swap them out. If I choose to do it right now the car will never get finished! :willy:

Yeah I hear ya. I wish I could pony up a little extra coin right now and do a bulletproof block. We all have to compromise at some point on something right? :D

Hey, the car will be badass and can always be made better. Nuff said. :woot:

phillym5 11-28-2009 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 251008)
Yeah I hear ya... or if you aren't hooking up just let out of it and brake til you get that really good pass and give it all its got. :D Knowing the track mgr sure don't hurt!

I'm only running about 10psi now, but this motor and block have seen 14psi when it hit 700rwhp when previously dyno'ed.

I'd really love to crank it up to 20psi. :D

The 383 with D1SC we did in "Rogue Status" @ 14 psi was putting down mid/upper 550 rwhp on our Dyno Jet. Non intercooled. He had some lame run flats on there... so the tires would blow off around 5800 rpm's... so we never got a good full pass. That was on pump gas. Timing was at 32 total. It uses Dart heads (can't remember witch one) and all forged internals.

Actually.. its coming back and we are selling the motor if you know any one.
He wants a stock LS7 or something in it now.

awr68 11-28-2009 08:46 PM

Thanks for understanding!! I'm focused on the things that can't be changed down the road. Heads aren't on that list so we will get to them later.

Enough about my car.............. ;)

Flash68 11-28-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by phillym5 (Post 251137)
The 383 with D1SC we did in "Rogue Status" @ 14 psi was putting down mid/upper 550 rwhp on our Dyno Jet. Non intercooled. He had some lame run flats on there... so the tires would blow off around 5800 rpm's... so we never got a good full pass. That was on pump gas. Timing was at 32 total. It uses Dart heads (can't remember witch one) and all forged internals.

Actually.. its coming back and we are selling the motor if you know any one.
He wants a stock LS7 or something in it now.

Everyone wants a damn LSx these days... :willy: One reason I liked the idea of going gen 1 with the boxy Stealth Ram intake. I just think it looks tough.

D1SC 383 is a nice setup and you probably have a block that can take a lot more power than my 400.

Quote:

Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 251139)
Thanks for understanding!! I'm focused on the things that can't be changed down the road. Heads aren't on that list so we will get to them later.

Enough about my car.............. ;)

Yeah man, one thing I have started to realize lately is that even though I am driving it (occasionally) and tuning it as we go, we can just keep adding and upgrading and tweaking as we go.... sure, it does cost more money and adds to the endless pit of money being spent, but getting it drivable and able to be enjoyed and shared with friends has been huge these recent weeks and that is what this whole was about when started some light years ago. :lol:

Yeah, enough about your car.. this is my thread. :lol:

:cheers:

6D9 11-28-2009 11:19 PM

Clean out your mailbox!

Flash68 11-28-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 6D9 (Post 251175)
Clean out your mailbox!

LOL, my bad dude.

Scott, can I get some more mailbox storage please? :D


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