Doom summed it all Up. Big Dittos. GM are you listening????????????? Retro will sell not tonka.

Wow....you'd have thought that on a site that embodies handling and power, people wouldn't get so excited about an overweight, bloated, un-original version of a great car....

http://www.dodge.com/shared/2008/cha.../arnell_13.jpg

The New Dodge Challenger

Wheelbase, in.: 116.0
Overall Length, in.: 197.7
Overall Width, in.: 75.7
Overall Height, in.: 57.0
Curb Weight, estimated, lbs.: 4140

New new Camaro will hand this car it's @$$ at every track you want to try....at a better price too.

Yes, the new challenger is hefty. Thats ashame, it takes the srt8 (6.1) hemi in the big challenger to out run the 300hp 4.6 mustang. If they could have made it weigh the same as the mustang and new camaro, the challenger would eat the new camaro fairly enough. However, just like back in the day, the challenger is coming in heavier then the other pony cars, only this time heavier. Chrysler should have just used the small A bodies for autocross racing back then.
Maybe if it sells well, they can build a new challenger on a smaller platform? Still, It will be cool to see the run down in Motor Trend. You gotta at least give them credit for finally giving Mopar guys a 2 door, rearwheel drive, v8 car. All we had was the dakota for a looooong time.

From the reviews I've seen the new Challenger has plenty of power and has pretty good handling. And more then anything it actually looks good doing it. Which is something the new Camaro, whenever it finally actually hits the road, doesn't have. Sure it's overweight. Everything is nowadays. A Solstice weighs 3000#.

I agree there!! AND,... I'm a Chevy guy!!!!:thumbsup: :faint:

All signs show the new Camaro being over 4,000 lbs thats not light and ='s well not alot of performance without a biggg motor

Wow, that is challengers weight. I thought the new camaro was supposed to be closer to mustang weight? I guess the camaro, with its IRS just couldnt get that low in wieght. Looks like pricing vs engine power is gonna be the big battle between the Camaro and Challenger. The 5.7 hemi for 2009 has 385hp and 404 lbs, what is the 5.7 ls1 pushing out these days?
Looks like the mustang will beat the Dodge and Chevy in the wallet and 1/4 mile, I wonder if they will out handle the stang........

It shouldn't be that difficult for the Camaro and Challenger to outhandle the Mustang in stock trim. The Fords handle like dogs from the factory.

ya its true especialy in size
 

have you guys actualy seen one of these up close ?

I have its HUGE almost the size of a ford explorern and it weighs in over 4 THOUSAND pounds

it sits a good 4-5 inches taller then a 03 ford cobra and is at leaast 8 inches longer

its actualy bigger then the original


here is a good comaprison to a sn-95 mustang < wich is no small car >

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hN5wFZ_iebU&feature=related

the 2010 mustang is going to have 400 horsepower also so ford wins the stop light war since its the lightest of the three at 3600 vs 3800 for the maro and 4100 for the dodge