There were three widths of mounts in 1968/1969 along with three different heights. Measure your engine mounts and see which engine stand is the proper width and height. This helped me tremendously when I had to change mounts. http://pozziracing.com/camaro_engine.htm I needed all the tunnel clearance, air cleaner, etc I could get with my 1/2 height body bushings. The 302/350 mounts are the shortest. 307 mounts are about 3/8 of an inch taller which would give you more header clearance. The big block mounts are in between and not your best bet. Whatever you do make sure you buy the right stands to match the engine mounts. You need to measure the motor mount length and the frame stand lenght to come up with the total number.

Funny, I read that same article this afternoon. I bought this car from Carlisle PA, and I know it was thrown togethor for a quick sale. What I have discovered today is I have a set of missed match frame mounts. one is ( Right2 1/4 to the center of the hole and the other is ( Left)1 7/8.

bigtyme,

Either you have the wrong motor mounts or the wrong frame mounts. I have the small block (327) mounts on my frame and with the S&P conversion plates and stock motor mounts they fit a lot more snug than that. I would cross reference those parts again to make absolutely sure you have what you think you have. Unless all this is different for the '69, which I don't see why it would be.

As for your header problem, what brand headers are those and what part number? You have to get the specific headers from Stainless Works to clear the stock steering box with the S&P plates.

The part number is..."CALS1SB" for the regular finish and "CALS1SBP" for the hand polished. These are specifically designed to work around the stock steering box USING the S&P plates. Some pics for reference. Header #1 looks like it's close to the power steering box but it's really not. It's just the angle that the picture was taken. There is actually 1/4" of clearance. God speed my friend.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...oo/2008074.jpg

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...oo/2008077.jpg

Thanks Tony, that helps alot. I think the problem is I have 350 frame mounts that are two different sizes. I'm going to get the 327 mounts tomorrow.

What headers are you running?

SW headers for standard subframe and gm steering box. I know the SW headers fit good with the correct mounts there just hard to find.

CarlC did a mockup using 67/8 motor mounts, ATS brackets and I'm not sure which frame brackets. Check with him on that as he got it worked out. I don't know if your brackets are the same as the ATS though.
David

I am running the S&P plates, Energy Poly mounts without the pre-load plates and SW LT's (The older stock steering design which look like yours) The newer design is like Tony's posted above. CarlC also has the newer style.

I was pretty close like yours, I ended up changing those bolts on the steering box to button head stainless and also filed down the box cover to gain clearance on the header tube.

Here's an older pic BEFORE I did those mods:

http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...Picture031.jpg

I picked up 1/4" today buy switcing mounting plates and engine mounts. Look a lot better and the motor also has a good angle to it. Funny thing is I must have called 3 different so called Camaro part companys and every one keeps saying there all the same. Trust me there not. I used 69 302/350 plates and engine mounts.there still about 1/8" shorter on the drivers side. took the motor lower on the passenger side and futher away from the drivers side. Worked out perfect. Special thanks to Pozzi and his write up. What's the big deal if I shim the engine plate 1/8" to get a little extra space?

[QUOTE=trapin;163922]bigtyme,

Either you have the wrong motor mounts or the wrong frame mounts. I have the small block (327) mounts on my frame and with the S&P conversion plates and stock motor mounts they fit a lot more snug than that. I would cross reference those parts again to make absolutely sure you have what you think you have. Unless all this is different for the '69, which I don't see why it would be.

As for your header problem, what brand headers are those and what part number? You have to get the specific headers from Stainless Works to clear the stock steering box with the S&P plates.

The part number is..."CALS1SB" for the regular finish and "CALS1SBP" for the hand polished. These are specifically designed to work around the stock steering box USING the S&P plates. Some pics for reference. Header #1 looks like it's close to the power steering box but it's really not. It's just the angle that the picture was taken. There is actually 1/4" of clearance. God speed my friend.

Tony, Its getting better. what kind of header gaskets did you use?