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Fluid Power 07-10-2009 04:48 AM

I'm calling shenanigans on GM not selling them. There is a GM dealer next to the office. They have 4 chevy stores in the chain. Sold all the Camaro's 3K over list. Spoke with manager yesterday, told him I would think twice about doing business with a dealer willing to gouge customers like that.

He (personally) has sold 15 vehicles since Monday. He said business has been pretty brisk on all lines across the board. They also have a couple of the new Mustangs. Sold 1 still have 2 on the lot.

ZMAN1969 07-10-2009 05:27 AM

Government Motors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 222329)
Nobody will buy them -- because have you seen the additional dealer markup these dickwad car lots are asking for??

I've seen 10K plus -- that's a hell of a markup on a 35K car!

And they wonder why they're bankrupt...

I cant blame GM on this, it's the dealers marking them up.and for the big Dummies willing to pay 10k over sticker? shame on them! remember when the shelby GT500 was new? 20k+:wow: markups!!! they killed the T-bird too. Dealers should be happy anyones buying cars! Sports cars are bought for more than just transportation. How about the new(now already dead) Turbo Cobalt? a buddy has one and I think its a helluva car for 24k added tune - now over 300hp! -handles great(18" tires) Brembo brakes. I'd of bought one for the wife but she dosent want payments :( after the new cars are out for a while the "market adjustment" will go away. After all you should know better to buy the first year a car is made(84 vette-remember that? - wait a year or two till they are de-bugged! I believe they are making cars alot better than the 70's-80's for sure and shame on us for buying foreign cars(not me except for having a couple of old bugs) I believe in keeping our $ here in the US as I care more about where I am glad to be living than overseas.

XLexusTech 07-10-2009 07:31 AM

Gen 5 .org lists a few dozen dealers selling @ or below sticker. Its also BS that they are not selling. I passed on on the way fishing planed on test driving on the way back. Sold it 2 hrs after it hit the lot.

camcojb 07-10-2009 07:50 AM

every dealer in my area has them for $7K over msrp or so. That's what is killing the sales, absolutely stupid to hold out for this when they aren't selling any cars to begin with.

I have yet to see a new Camaro on the road. I'm sure there are some, but I have still not seen a single one in the Sacramento area.

Jody

GregWeld 07-10-2009 08:13 AM

I was at a show last Sunday - on a dealers lot... They had 5 V8's on the lot - all $9995 over MSRP... They were still there at the end of the day, and all anyone could talk about was what a "rip off" this dealer was... despite them supporting a hot rod show.

I've paid MSRP for 2 cars in my life - a special ordered 650i Convertible... and an M5... (the M5 sucked but that's another discussion and I have since sold it). I also waited for the SRT 8 300 to come off in price and bought one at a steep discount (since sold it too -- too much plastic and it was noisy even with the MagnaFlow exhaust).

I'd buy a new Camaro tomorrow but won't out of spite for the stupid dealers. Besides which - I HATE THE PROCESS of buying a new car. You have to spend all day with some toothless moron that doesn't know a 6 from an 8... can't make a sale... and can't quote a price even if you offered MSRP!

Now - ask me how I really feel.... :rofl:

redfire69 07-10-2009 08:13 AM

I have yet to see one at a dealership. Probably have to venture to a bigger city. I heard the 3 that one local dealer had went for 3-7K over sticker, so it actually seems like a shortage of supply.

jy211 07-10-2009 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 222329)
Nobody will buy them -- because have you seen the additional dealer markup these dickwad car lots are asking for??

I've seen 10K plus -- that's a hell of a markup on a 35K car!

And they wonder why they're bankrupt...

Yep! :thumbsup:

tones2SS 07-10-2009 11:45 AM

I think GM is selling a lot of these cars right now. Check this out;


The latest camaro production and delivery #'s were released today.
Here are the stats:

Production Stats:
Camaros produced in June 09: 9,456
Total Camaros produced to date (since March 16, 2009): 24,171


Delivery Stats:
Camaro June Deliveries 9,320
Total April - June Deliveries 15,397


Camaro sales: 9,320 units sold
Mustang sales: 7,632 units sold
Challenger sales: 1,369 units sold

Vegas69 07-10-2009 01:40 PM

I saw one almost everyday before I left on vacation crusing the streets of Vegas. I even saw one in the middle of Wyoming on the way to the Black Hills! Not bad for the money.....but it's no substitue for the real thing.....:D

And to the folks paying over sticker....take a look at Tone's post. GM needs a new business model. Let's go back to the 1800's and think about supply and demand. Soon there will be 25 Camaros on every Chevy lot in the nation just like when you drive by and look at the trucks. I have never seen Toyota oversupply there vehicles. HMMMMMM.....

JKnight 07-10-2009 01:56 PM

As LexusTech said, there are plenty of dealers willing to sell at or below sticker. While you can look down on GM for this gouging, I prefer to blame those who pay it! If no one was paying it they wouldn't be able to do it.

Camaro5 and fifthgen.org all have lists of dealers selling at MSRP.


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