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PASD U 08-15-2009 02:03 AM

Hmmmm. After several hours of looking for this information (Search: Titanium) I have finally found a beginning to my answer. Am considering an ART system for my Chevelle and thru all of my research and procrastination they've developed these. So..any and every little detail of information you can throw my way will only help me. I'm here to soak it all up. I have a headache (ughhh) I've been reading so much between this and the Accuair setup.

I do sort of understand the remote canisters but could you break it down a little more for me? If you don't mind. If it's not cool in the post, I'd be happy to have it in a PM or email.

amber@ridetech 08-20-2009 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PASD U (Post 229403)
I do sort of understand the remote canisters but could you break it down a little more for me?

Some of the benefits of a remote reservoir shock are increased fluid capacity, which keeps the oil cooler so you experience less aeration and fade; plus you get all the benefits of a monotube (larger piston, faster heat dissipation, and gas charge) without sacrificing stroke lengths. The Titaniums also offer a finer range of adjustment and since the adjusters are now on the shaft/canister, they're generally easier to get to. Let me know if you have any questions. :)

PASD U 08-20-2009 01:51 PM

Hi Amber. Welcome to Lat-G. Thanks for the reply. I suppose right now I'm looking for more real world testing and analysis. Looks like I'll have to wait and see though.

amber@ridetech 08-21-2009 05:00 AM

No problemo; thanks for the welcome! :cheers: As far as real-world info goes, just let me know what you're thinking and maybe I can help. I've had the Titaniums on my daily-driver (4th gen T/A) for over a year now, not to mention the cars in the Ridetech stable that are also equipped. :patriot:

JRouche 08-23-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by amber@ridetech (Post 230262)
Some of the benefits of a remote reservoir shock are increased fluid capacity,:)

Number one gain IMO. A shock, being a fluid controlled device benefits from more fluid. Heat issues aside. You covered that already :) Thanks.

A fluid is incompressible (for the most part) so you would think a larger volume of fluid in the shock wouldnt make any diff, and it doesnt, in the shock. Its gonna react to the changes it sees with any amount of fluid. But.... It is still subjected to aeration, call it contamination of the fluid with the gas in the system.

So with a larger volume of fluid the gas "contamination" can be limited to a remote reservoir, out of the shock body. Yeah, you will still have aeration in the reservoir, but it is much less than in the shock body where all the action is and the design of the shock causes some dramatic turbulence, if the gas head is right there, in the shock it will cause some contamination . If the reservoir is made correctly then it can be held to a very small amount of turbulence. Verses the turbulence of a shock body.

Mixing of the gas and oil is a bad thing in the shock body. So if you can make a remote reservoir that lends itself to a less active environment then the gas stays in its area and the oil stays in its area. So now you have the shock operating in a completely gas free (no bubbles) fluid, thats a GOOD thing...

As far as I figure LOL Im not a shock guy so what the hell :) Just seat of the pants feeling for me. The tech folks like Amber have the real issues laid out. :) JR

PASD U 08-24-2009 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by amber@ridetech (Post 230459)
No problemo; thanks for the welcome! :cheers: As far as real-world info goes, just let me know what you're thinking and maybe I can help. I've had the Titaniums on my daily-driver (4th gen T/A) for over a year now, not to mention the cars in the Ridetech stable that are also equipped. :patriot:


What other mods do you have suspension wise? I know it's a completely different car BUT it'll help me gauge what's up. Mainly I'm curious about wheels/tires/suspension and I guess anything that adds relative weight (engine size, 8 12" subs in the rear). And I suppose I could also ask how low (or high) you keep it at ride height and your impression of imperfections, potholes/speedbumps/railroad tracks and general highway manners. I thought there would be more comments but maybe there aren't enough people out there running this level.

amber@ridetech 08-25-2009 05:35 AM

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...I thought there would be more comments but maybe there aren't enough people out there running this level...
The Titaniums have only been out for a matter of weeks...give it time :thumbsup:

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What other mods do you have suspension wise? I know it's a completely different car BUT it'll help me gauge what's up. Mainly I'm curious about wheels/tires/suspension and I guess anything that adds relative weight (engine size, 8 12" subs in the rear). And I suppose I could also ask how low (or high) you keep it at ride height and your impression of imperfections, potholes/speedbumps/railroad tracks and general highway manners.
Other than front ShockWaves, rear CoolRide with Titaniums, and the home-built 'AirPod' (man do I wish we offered the AirPod when i first installed my system, :P ), she's all stock (albeit rebuilt engine/trans) including tires/wheels (235/55 R16, IIRC). Weight-wise nothing special; although as my DD, I often use it to haul everything from groceries to large amounts of landscaping materials and a couple hundred pounds of horse feed at least once a week. She handles it all very well; I just throw a few lbs of air at her when I load up and we're on the way. Ride-height really only dropped about an inch; however, I routinely ride with it intentionally too low for various reasons and with the shocks pretty soft. I've got some pretty mean country roads on my commute and I'm intensely pleased with how the Titaniums handle everything, railroad tracks included. There are two particularly weird swoopy potholes that I get a touch of tire-rub on but that would stop if I'd just turn the shocks up another click or two or quit ridin' so low. Another thing I really like about the Titaniums is not having to lay on the ground and feel around behind the tire to adjust them :theresa:
Let me know if you need something more specific than that; I tend to ramble on, so I'll stop myself here :yes:

PASD U 09-01-2009 10:42 AM

Amber, I imagine you guys are encouraged to field test all that stuff too. I'm sure the process of run-of-the-mill, everyday lifestyle R&D is priceless.


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Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms (Post 226923)
We used them on the Bull Run Racer and LOVE them. Really a awesome ride and tun-ability

We mounted our reservoirs on the inner fenders


http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSC_0151.jpg

Where'd you guys source the clamps? Nice pieces.


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