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jake72ss 10-20-2010 04:29 AM

what would be wrong with building the end of the torque arm like Griggs does
http://www.howardweb.org/fastgt/docs/griggs_arm2.jpg http://www.griggsracing.com/images/MTA1000RST.jpg

it looks like the hole in the crossmember is a bit larger than the sleeve and that allows the torque arm to slide front to rear and side to side.

Would this have any downsides?

exwestracer 10-20-2010 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jake72ss (Post 312050)
what would be wrong with building the end of the torque arm like Griggs does
http://www.howardweb.org/fastgt/docs/griggs_arm2.jpg http://www.griggsracing.com/images/MTA1000RST.jpg

it looks like the hole in the crossmember is a bit larger than the sleeve and that allows the torque arm to slide front to rear and side to side.

Would this have any downsides?

If you're planning on limited travel and body roll, nothing wrong with it at all. The bushings even give you the opportunity to "tune" how the arm hits the chassis slightly. Just be careful when jacking the car up, etc. not to over articulate the bushings.

Teetoe_Jones 10-20-2010 02:56 PM

Read up on this for a bit.

http://www.unbalancedengineering.com/Camaro/TA/

Tyler

funcars 10-20-2010 10:11 PM

I understand after seeing the picture - Thanks. If the link was oriented to be in tension during braking then I guess the same issue would surface during acceleration when the link would be in compression?

I've never been a fan of the implementation of the Griggs torque arms or watts links. They do seem very durable and functional on a race track where you don't care about noise or vibration - they just need to work and can't break.

BMR Tech 10-21-2010 09:33 AM

Is your torque arm built from round tube or square? If square we have a machined slider insert with Delrin bushing and poly mount you could use. It fits into a 2x2 x.120 tube. This is what we use at the front of our torque arm kit. The slider tube slides on 6 inches of Delrin equipped with grease channels and a grease fitting. The whole setup is bind-free...

http://www.bmrsuspension.com/siteart...age1_large.jpg

1Bad68Cat 10-21-2010 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMR Tech (Post 312278)
Is your torque arm built from round tube or square? If square we have a machined slider insert with Delrin bushing and poly mount you could use. It fits into a 2x2 x.120 tube. This is what we use at the front of our torque arm kit. The slider tube slides on 6 inches of Delrin equipped with grease channels and a grease fitting. The whole setup is bind-free...

http://www.bmrsuspension.com/siteart...age1_large.jpg

Hello Brett,

Sent you a PM.

Robert

exwestracer 10-22-2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funcars (Post 312217)
I understand after seeing the picture - Thanks. If the link was oriented to be in tension during braking then I guess the same issue would surface during acceleration when the link would be in compression?

Yes. That's one argument for using the sliding front mount. IMO, the double spherical is a little more compliant over bumps, as the double mount has no true center of rotation. Probably splitting hairs...

pacificustoms 10-25-2010 11:47 AM

What about using the slip joint from a driveline?

exwestracer 10-25-2010 05:55 PM

Boy, now there's a really interesting idea... You could probably find a flange mount ujoint and bolt the flange to a plate on the crossmember and use the whole works, ujoint and all...:wow:

ProTouring442 10-27-2010 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pacificustoms (Post 312921)
What about using the slip joint from a driveline?

You'd have to find a way to accommodate the twisting motion as the slip joint from a drive-shaft will be grooved.

Shiny Side Up!
Bill


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