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Originally Posted by sokoloka (Post 424941)

What are EPAS?

maybe this:

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/EPAS.pdf

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Been looking at the FX4 and hopping it up, as well as the Ram Runner concept as well. What do you do for work? How many miles have the Raptors seen?

What are EPAS?

The trucks are used for security and chase/extract, in the operations community. The majority of them have around 50k on them... and we are not nice to them by any means.

As Jody covered with his link... EPAS is the Electronic Power Assist Steering. It has a lot to do with the fuel efficiency of the late model Ford product line.

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Originally Posted by sokoloka (Post 424941)

Actually thought about a Ram Runner briefly as well. Any idea how much the total package runs?

$20100, and the starting price for the Ram 1500 is $21975... so I'm guessing it goes up to $42075, the Raptor is $42975, but I'm just giving you the starting prices...

For a lot less money than a new Raptor, you can buy a lower mileage 2005-7 Ram 4X4 with the 5.9 Cummins, redo the suspension and add some basic engine/tranny mods to give you over 600rwhp and 20mpg on the freeway. These trucks come out of the factory very overbuilt and very undertuned. Should be MUCH stronger than a Raptor and last longer too. And the fact that you are buying a used truck makes beating on them a little easier than worrying about getting a parking lot door ding on a $60K new truck.

http://dodge-ram-lift-kit.com/dodge-...e-lift-kit.jpg

Xtreme 4X4 is building a half price Raptor. Check it out.

http://www.powerblocktv.com/player/s..._num=XT2012-09

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Originally Posted by PhilR (Post 425335)

I agree with this kind of thinking and I have one myself.
If your serious about having a "Chase vehicle"
I would go this route
Towing
Mileage
Durability

Two company's are very good at this
Carli & Thuren fabrication - Google these

If you keep the tune stock/near stock you can get away with very $ little in the trans.
Suspension is all up to you but just like our cars shock tuning and spring selection make or break how any vehicle handles.

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Originally Posted by sokoloka (Post 424941)

THANK YOU! Really appreciate the feedback. I see you're in SB - what dealer are you getting your Raptor from? I test drove mine down at Ken Grody here in Carlsbad - they're charging an automatic TEN THOUSAND OVER sticker right off the bat. Almost put me off the concept as a matter of principal. Kitted out 100% how I'd like it a 2012 should be no more than 54k sticker. They had an almost identical one to what I wanted with a $65k sticker. Ridiculous.

Any idea when the 2013's come out? I won't be buying until October-ish, don't mind getting a 2012 and hopefully leveraging the changes to bring the price down.
!

I ordered mine through Redlands Ford $500 over Invoice, speak with Richard Jerez in internet sales. If you ordered today you won't get until early 2013. They sell inventory Raptors at MSRP and had a 2012 Silver supercrew the last time I spoke with them.

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Originally Posted by sokoloka (Post 424837)

Thinking about replacing my Yukon with a new truck when I move back to SD in a few months - test drove a 2012 Raptor a few days ago and fell in love with it. Anyone own one / have any extended experience with it? Any other similar recommendations?

My Yukon is my daily, so whatever I replace it with needs to perform the same duties. Also needs to have comfortable seating for 5 adults (4 doors likely mandatory), be suitable for offroad excursions (where my current Yukon falls short, somewhat piggy and 22's not quite suitable), be a solid tow vehicle, and be a good roadtrip vehicle (my sales territory when I return will likely cover southern California, Arizona, and Nevada).

I love my Yukon to death but I wouldn't mind something new. Been a fantastic truck but I've been hesitant to dump surfboards, mountainbikes, etc into the back and am leaning towards a pickup again. Would like to stick GMC but don't necessarily want to build anything up to similar specs right off the bat either. Raptor's no questions asked 36k mile warranty is attractive as well... I've recently developed an interest in trophy truck racing and plan to support my buddy as a chase vehicle in Baja when I move back too. As is I spend a fair amount of time out in the desert exploring / shooting when I'm in town.

Sorry for the rambling post (juggling my three nephews while trying to compose this). All thoughts appreciated!

Thanks.

A new Raptor as a chaser of a trophy truck in the baja will come back in a sandwich bag. Any stock off the lot truck for that matter. Those truck haul and take an extreme beating.