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Brian Finch and I did some testing last month and since our cars are essentially the same it was easy to do. He has (had) a 335 front tire and I have a 315. We swapped cars and I notice his car had quite a bit of oversteer on turn in, he was surprised at how much more balanced my car was. We swapped my wheels onto his car and it cured the oversteer with no other changes. Imho there's a point where you have too much front grip and it upsets the balance of the car.
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you not increase rear grip to balance the car instead of limiting front grip?
I believe both of you run the DSE rear...lower the panhard bar. I know it is not adjustable, but you could make it that way. What is the track width on both cars? He could also increase track width in rear to tighten the car up...acording to Ron Sutton's teachings. |
Tim Allens Camaro widen fenders and Quarter Panels.
I tried to get a picture of the stretch but it was a no go with the Camera. http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...20%2816%29.JPG http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...20%2806%29.JPG http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...20%2805%29.JPG http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...20%2810%29.JPG http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...20%2812%29.JPG http://garagescene.net/gallery3/var/...20%2801%29.JPG Very cool well done Wide Body early 1st gen Camaro By Bodie Stroud Design for Tim Allen. Spec that I am aware of DSE Subrame, Connectors and Quadra-link, Brembo Brakes and custom Rallye style Wheels. 427 cubic in LS Dry Sump |
Okay I am not a suspension guy and I don't claim to be either. However look at the new Z28 and it has 305's all the way around.
I've talked with the Lotus guys (Suspension & Chassis Engineer) for year about suspension and chassis design and they all agree more isn't always better. There is a balance and before you figure out the balance you have to know how to tune a suspension which I am willing to bet 99% have no clue how to actually do it. I also talked with a couple guys at Ride-Tech at Sema and the subject of 295's all the way around came up and they thought it was a good idea and now you just have to figure out if all 4 tires should be the exact same height or should they be staggered. Lots to think about and I know there is a post from a couple years ago that I made that had some great information. My future plans with my car is to run 295's on all 4 corners and spend a bunch of time tuning the suspension with someone that really understands how they work. There are so many things to consider and I think it would be great if one of the experienced guys to chime on with suggestions as to what they think about the tire pressure, Spring rates, rebound, dampening, weight bias & so on as I really would like to learn as much as I can over the winter so I don't look like an idiot next year when we start to thrash on my camaro. |
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There you go
I know it is hard to believe, but that is the first mistake I have ever made. LOL
I would also be curious as to what the tire temps are at the end of a run front to rear. Sorry, we are getting so far off the original posted question. |
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