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DavidBoren 04-08-2015 10:50 AM

Anyone who says that the triple adjustability will be daunting or "too much" is out of their element, and possibly out of their right mind.

For one, you can use triple adjustable shocks as single adjustable shocks by only tuning one area of adjustment at a time. Pretty simple, really.

A triple adjustable shock can be a single adjustable shock, but a single adjustable shock cannot be a triple adjustable shock. If that makes sense.

Ron Sutton 04-08-2015 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidBoren (Post 601585)
Anyone who says that the triple adjustability will be daunting or "too much" is out of their element, and possibly out of their right mind.

For one, you can use triple adjustable shocks as single adjustable shocks by only tuning one area of adjustment at a time. Pretty simple, really.

A triple adjustable shock can be a single adjustable shock, but a single adjustable shock cannot be a triple adjustable shock. If that makes sense.

LOL! That makes a lot of sense.

bret 04-08-2015 02:35 PM

I haven't heard any wrong information here.

The reason we typically [initially] try to talk people out of Triples is that the first thing they ask is: "where do I set the knobs?"
We can get you really close, but in reality every car, every driver, every track is a little different. Hence the adjustment capacity.
If we knew precisely where to set everyones shock adjustments beforehand, we would just build that valving into the shock and there would be no need for adjustment :)

There is NO downside to the triples except [for some] the price. The triple adjustable shock is a powerful tuning tool. Powerful tools cost money. Do you need that powerful tool? Will the single adjustable do everything you need it to do? Only you can decide. You have done the appropriate thing...ask questions of unbiased and experienced users.

Personally, if I cannot make a definitive decision [after gathering as many facts as possible] I typically lean toward the bigger/badder/more expensive unit. I've rarely been disappointed.

eric1967 04-08-2015 03:21 PM

Brian I cleaned out my inbox.

b17brian 04-08-2015 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSLance (Post 601553)
One thing that I like about my triples with the Ron Sutton secret sauce autocross valving is they are mean handling on the course...but when it comes time to drive home from the event they can be dialed back for a great ride on the street.

Thanks for recommending Ron's "secret sauce", I've read about it in other threads, but hadn't considered it for my car. Your description is what I'm looking for, mean handling on the track and great ride on the street. Appreciate the advice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Sutton (Post 601567)
Hey Brian & everyone on here,

David Pozzi, Jeff Swartz & I share a common philosophy
... buy the best shocks your budget can afford. There are places you can save money, but shocks & brakes are not the places to cut corners or scrimp.

Advanced shock tuning, building & understanding can be a little complex, but basic shock tuning is pretty simple. That's where I like new guys to start ... with a basic guideline ... tune from there ... and learn.

So Brian, and any other Newbies reading along with us, I urge you to get your car set up right from the start. That is more than buying quality bolt-on parts. That means getting your suspension set-up ...
* Balanced front/rear spring & sway bar rates
* Complimentary roll center heights & track widths
* Correct tire bias for the car's front/rear weight bias
* Camber, caster & toe settings for maximum contact patches
* Scaling to corner balance the car
* Calculating your car's total braking force & brake bias
... worked out as part of your build.

:cheers:

Thanks Ron for the advice and the great basic shock tuning tips. This newbie surely appreciates you taking the time to share your experience in such detail. I've followed your other threads on suspension, brakes and safety and learned so much from them.

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Originally Posted by DavidBoren (Post 601585)
Anyone who says that the triple adjustability will be daunting or "too much" is out of their element, and possibly out of their right mind.

For one, you can use triple adjustable shocks as single adjustable shocks by only tuning one area of adjustment at a time. Pretty simple, really.

A triple adjustable shock can be a single adjustable shock, but a single adjustable shock cannot be a triple adjustable shock. If that makes sense.

LOL, I'm sure this person was just trying to protect me from myself. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bret (Post 601613)
I haven't heard any wrong information here.

The reason we typically [initially] try to talk people out of Triples is that the first thing they ask is: "where do I set the knobs?"
We can get you really close, but in reality every car, every driver, every track is a little different. Hence the adjustment capacity.
If we knew precisely where to set everyones shock adjustments beforehand, we would just build that valving into the shock and there would be no need for adjustment :)

There is NO downside to the triples except [for some] the price. The triple adjustable shock is a powerful tuning tool. Powerful tools cost money. Do you need that powerful tool? Will the single adjustable do everything you need it to do? Only you can decide. You have done the appropriate thing...ask questions of unbiased and experienced users.

Personally, if I cannot make a definitive decision [after gathering as many facts as possible] I typically lean toward the bigger/badder/more expensive unit. I've rarely been disappointed.

Bret, your tech support has been excellent. They've answered all my questions to the best of their ability. Your parts that I've purchased so far are first class.

I was fairly certain which shocks to buy, but started this thread because I was looking for different perspectives from others that had both single adjustable and upgraded to triple. My problem is I don't know how much I don't know yet. So much to learn and I'm trying not to make newbie mistakes. Thanks!

canrc 04-09-2015 11:03 PM

I don't have to much info to offer on the track side of things as I haven't had my car on the track yet but hopefully will soon. I recently switched to ridetech singles with Rons secret sauce and WOW what a difference from my previous shocks! I have gone for a few spirited drives where I thought my car was going to break lose , It didn't. All around driveabilty has improved tremendously.

214Chevy 04-10-2015 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bret (Post 601613)
....Personally, if I cannot make a definitive decision [after gathering as many facts as possible] I typically lean toward the bigger/badder/more expensive unit. I've rarely been disappointed.

And that's why I bought the triple adjustable's myself Bret.


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