This again??? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I pretty much agree with what has been said, however who else is sponsoring and hosting actual track time??? NO ONE is, airride is the only company to step up to the plate. I give them major kudos for that. BUT like everyone has said they are comparing apples to oranges, and there post seemed like one big huge advertisement with more holes than swiss cheese

Just out of curiosity regarding that 1.112g reading.

Is that a measurement of sustained cornering load, or a transient reading?

I belive its from a onboard doohickey, probably not the most reliable device?

I wouldn't say that. Some of those are very reliable and accurate.

But it would be really easy to look through a data stream and pick out one little transient spike which would be something entirely different a sustained cornering load.

Sorry guys i wasn't around a computer this weekend, This event wasn't about showing that our suspension is better then another manufacture, its more about showing that air suspension is a performance suspension upgrade. we do go against others at the autocross events some of the times from them are on other post.As for the equipment used for timing ,here is a link http://www.g2xtreme.com/main.htm To answer your question about the reading for the g reading, i dont know yet, but i am looking into it. I will post a answer as soon as i know.

Sorry, wasn't ignoring your question, just didn't see it. We did some testing on a 96 Camaro SS at the first Street Challenge 2 years ago. It had all the Hotchkiss sway bars, sub frame connectors, and stut braces along with a set of aftermarkets performance springs. At lunch was swapped out the springs for the front Shockwaves and rear CoolRide. The only timed testing that we did that year was through the slalom, and if I remember correctly it picked up like 3 mph through the cones. I realize that with us doing all the testing there will be people out there doubting the information given. And could sit here and tell you how well it handles and how great it is until my fingers fall off, but most of you are like me, You have to see it to believe it. Which is exactly why we started the Street Challenge and the Auto Cross events. And by the way all the performance data from the Street Challenge was recoreded by one of the guys from Primedia. Check with us early next year to see if we will be holding an Auto Cross at one of the Pleasanton GoodGuys shows.

Here is the top 10 times from the protouring.com/musclerides.com AutoCross down at Pigeon Forge the other weekend.

Here's the top ten fastest runs.
STICKY TIRES:
Z06 Vette: 57.523 (Owner Shawn Willocks - Car#129)
4th Gen Vert: 63.334 (Owner: Chris McHarge (sp?)Car#73)
STREET TIRES:
1) 70 Air Ride GSX: 63.817 (Owner Bret Voelkel - Car#2)
2) 69 DSE Camaro: 64.107 (Owner Kyle & Stacy - Car#8)
3) 71 Air Ride Camaro: 64.186 (Owner Bret Voelkel - Car#52)
4) 67 Air Ride Chevelle: 64.318 (Owner: Bret Voelkel - Car#21)
5) 95 Camaro WS6: 64.920 (Owner: Matt Altamore - Car#16)
6) 89 Mustang: 65.239(Owner Brandon Wiedeman - Car#9)
7) 68 Twist Camaro: 63.947+1 = 65.947 (Owner: Steve Chryssos - Car#72)
8) LS1 RX7: 66.023 (Owner Andrew Borodin - Car#007) 3150lbs w/driver, 375 RWHP
9) 81 MuscleRides Malibu: 66.788 (Owner Bill Howell - Car #19
10) 2001 Z28 Coupe 66.828 (Owner Ryan Jarrard - Car#24)

I watched the air rides guys at the KC GG's show this year all I can say is that I am very impressed with the performance! If you think about the "perception" of air ride it's for lead sled cruisers. So if you take a performance car and put air ride on it the performance should dimish. Right?

Well let's just say that many cars ran through the autocross and the air ride cars were among the fastest and looked the most effortless. The had a early 50's truck that look like the thing was on rails! :thumbsup:

Darren I'm now a believer, and after talking with you guys we'll be using air ride in our next 2 cars. One of which is a 69 Camaro. I'm looking forward to beating on it next year at the autocross events!

I'll be looking forward to seeing you there. I wasn't at Nashville but I'm told that we had a really good turnout there. We had a pretty good turnout at KC as well, but I'm suprised that more people don't get out of their lawn chairs and take a trip through the cones. That was my first time on an Auto Cross course and I loved it. I wish I would have had my Chevelle finished. I figured there would be a line a mile long. We need to get more of you performance guys to come by and show them how to have a good time.

Sorry if this sounds like a big "advertisement", but there has always been discussions on the forums about weather air suspensions can handle well or not, so we are just trying to prove it!

I agree completely...your questions [and everyones] deserve an answer. Unfortunately the number of hours in all of our days is still limited to 24 and there are parts to build, phones to answer...you get the idea.

The idea here is to offer yet another choice for your suspension selection. You are quite correct...if your car sits at exactly the right ride height, if it rides exactly the way you want it to, if it corners to your satisfaction...we have nothing to offer you.
The rest of us mortals, however, are interested in all the choices that may be available. All I am trying to offer is that an air suspension can be one of those choices.
BTW...I LOVE Steilows Malibu. It takes a serious amount of time and effort to create such a well rounded car. I don't know Mark personally but I would suspect that his knowledge was enhanced by years of ongoing investigation into new ideas and technologies. We are offering data that concerns a relatively new [at least to this market] technology.
As soon as I can find it again, [tomorrow?] I've got some Racepack G2X data that I will post from the 1G Chevelle at Putnam Park. I'l try to find the link to a demo version of their software so everyone can review the data. Hopefully this will be relevant to most of you. If not, just click off.

Ill be there. As an ex autocrosser Id like to see this for myself to be a believer in air ride performance. Ill have my car there and would like to pilot one of your cars that is set up to do a comparison of the 2.