What about building a pro tourer from a bone stock average condition 1st gen Camaro or a 68-72 Nova?

Even 10 years later, I don't care who you are... you can still build a super nice car for $80K. If you can't, you're getting ripped off.

Cough Cough post from 2007 Cough cough. .

That said 100k wont touch most high end cars even with the owner doing most the work. Unless you'rer buying it complette or near complete.

Man. This is THE dilemma that faces most of us. The fine line between building something of your dreams, keep from breaking the bank, and not getting divorced. I am personally looking for a divorce sale to keep from being a divorce sale.

Do yourself a big favor and buy one that's done!!! Trust me on this . Go to our for sale section and have a look. :)

You guys got me wrong.
I simply asked what does it cost to build a cool 69 Camaro or a Nova in the States lately.
I don't want to buy anything. My 72 widebody Nova is getting ready.
I would like to compare the costs over there and here in europe.
I have to pay a lot more on parts getting over here but maybe I save on labour.
A simple comparison nothing more.
A lot of you guys feel adequate to build the car for yourself and a lot of you guys pay for shops to build. Way different numbers. So how about these numbers?
I am sorry to steer this thread to a little different direction.

Is it alright if I clarify this?

There is no answer to this question. How much does a bag of groceries cost? That's right, what's in the bag?

Let me restate that then Donny. LOL!! I personally know of one shop that still charges $65/hour that can do it. Not many shops still charge that. Most are $85/hour and some are $100/hour.

Thanks! This is that kind of info I am looking for.
Is it different for body repair/modification, paint job etc.?

Yes, everything is by the hour. But, where you get into the higher expenses are the long, laborious hours are metal repair like quarter panel replacement, paint/body work versus simple, less expensive jobs that doesn't take that long like installing seat, door panels, door handles, etc

That is what I jumped into. Body repair and modifications... I had to forget the new engine the forgeline wheels etc. It is horrible expensive here also. More than 1 year for the body.

I can only imagine. For every one shop there, it's 50 here. That's easily fixed you know. Just move to America...preferably California. :welcome3:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I got a hoot out of this!

I'm over 5 years and XX.xx into a build :G-Dub::G-Dub::G-Dub: Laughing OUT Loud. Thanks for the chuckle

The definition of Nice needs to be agreed upon here. Just like everyone has a different definition of a hot chick. Some guys have a little lower standard then others and that is fine. Ugly Chicks need love also.

There is no shop on this planet that can do a complete disassembly build at 65 per hour that is under 80k. That would even have the level of quality to just park out front in the lot at SEMA per say. The cars I would call nice have more then 80k in parts alone. And last I checked the parts only install for free if you do it at home by yourself.

Our Labor rate has been at 75 per hour for many many years. We just went to 85 per hour. There are shops getting 95 and 100 per hour all over the place. The more custom the project the more labor hours it takes to accomplish, obviously. Buy the best car you can in the beginning to save as much money as possible. Then its all down to the level of detail and complexity of the parts.

LS3 - 430Hp - 7k
T56 - 5k with bell housing and clutch
Headers and exhaust - 4k
Front engine drive system - 2k
Engine harness - 1500
Forgeline wheels - 7k
Tires - 1500
Brakes with master cylinder - 3k
Radiator - 1500
Subframe - 7k
Rear suspension with diff - 4k
AC parts - 1k
Fuel tank with pump and controller - 2k
Electrical parts - 2k
New glass - 1k
All rubber and seals - 1k
gauge cluster - 1k
Seats - 1k
Seat belts - 300

I thinks that's 52,800 right there. No plumbing, no stereo, no install, and lots of other stuff right there for what I would call a nice basic car. No paint job, no interior work, No rust repair or panel replacement.

That leaves 418 hours (10.5 weeks of a professional working full time) in the budget to put it all together nicely.

You can buy a nice used car for 80K.

There is no shop on this planet that can do a complete disassembly build at 65 per hour that is under 80k. That would even have the level of quality to just park out front in the lot at SEMA per say. The cars I would call nice have more then 80k in parts alone. And last I checked the parts only install for free if you do it at home by yourself.



Rodger they do it on TV all the time!:peepwall:

Hollywood is a whole other planet?

Take your best guess, then double it. Add 20% in a year, then anothe 30% in three years, then sell it for a 60% loss.

Buy the Corvette.

Jim ... Yes and no
Yes its ALWAYS way more than you think but 'IF" you choose the RIGHT car and if the car is built properly, tastefully with all the right stuff you wont lose that much. You may take a bit of hit but I have built a couple of cars and haven't lost money yet.

Cheers
Steve

I’m all for you man. Good luck!

I’m happy my material is getting laughs, 11 years later...:D

Remember: IF is in the middle of life, and it’s full of “if’s “...and,

“IF” is also in “I F’ed Up!” too. :D

Lol
 

Couldn't agree more Jim ... LOL
Steve