Far from it. Been modifying muscle cars since the day we opened in 2002. We are open minded to try anything different. I'll start another thread later showing our previous projects.

transplant
 

I'm doing something similar, but replacing an old OHC 6 with a DOHC 4V inline 6. The basis for my swap is the Vortec 4200, which is akin to a long-stroke/large bore EcoTec. The engine that inspired me to do this swap made 1365hp with a GT47R. I'm going for streetability using a GT42R. I plan to run the living piss out of this at any event or track that I can, so I started with the chassis first.

Here's an older pic with the mock-up engine in place & modified front frame:

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...Mar08117-1.jpg

That's the money shot right there, great looking car, great stance. :thumbsup:

I agree with everyone else's take on the exhaust, looks like a Pep Boys bolt on, totally takes away from the level at which this car was built.

How much does it weigh? Had it to the strip yet?

Well the tips are cheap thats for sure. Full stainless steel. Anyhow I'm listening to people's opinion. I'm exploring other alternatives to change the exhaust outlet style.

Haven't weight it yet. My guess is around 3,500lbs. Haven't taken it to the strip yet. Plenty of freeway pulls against sport bikes and cars, its proven itself there! lol

not sure how anyone could say it "looks" like it was designed by a tuner ... no crazy exterior mods, tasteful wheels (I don't love the black set but the others are killer), killer stance. I think the two tone seats are possibly the only thing that says tuner to me, but other wise, not even in the slightest way. If you hadn't told anyone what powered it and didn't show that exhaust, all you'd have heard was praise. It's hard to say what's going to happen with energy and fuel and I'm sure it hasn't had much effect on people with money but it's going to start having at least some impact on this business some day, so I'm open to different ideas. Plus, a six banger may sound different but they can sound bad ass. Would love to hear this one.

the only things that i think are out of place and don't really match the overall look of the car are the chrome trim and bumpers. with the modernized interior and big wheels the chrome bumpers look kinda "tacked on" and arbitrary.... doesn't really match the modern look i guess.

i think the car would look a lot cooler without the bumpers, and maybe a boom tube or something out the side. other than that i think it's pretty cool... just not my style.

https://www.drgas.net/category.php?cid=7&catid=1

but the work looks top notch!

wow i totally like the untouched exterior, with the retained chrome and base trim... love that it still has locks and handles and isnt full of cage or cluttering... the stance is right on and if the exhaust had been "integrated" in the look just alittle more... or flowed with the lines i would have loved that too..

i like the nascar boom box exhaust idea..

and if i gut my maddress and find a pile of cash i would take it as it sat right there...

yea, i like the mostly untouched exterior too. i don't think removing the bumpers would be taking away from that, but it would certainly modernize the car enough to match the interior and wheels more.

i'm not suggesting he shave the handles and remove all the window trim. maybe instead of chrome window trim, make it look more like brushed aluminum looking, and just ditch the front bumper.... and maybe replace the mirrors with second gen style mirrors.
i personally think that would look a lot better.

We are listening. We like the idea of the bumper removal, however the problem is that this car has a huge front mount intercooler. With the front bumper removed it exposes the bottom part of the intercooler that comes out a little of the two open air dams. That makes it look funny. We could try painting the bottom part of the intercooler black so it isn't so obvious though. Most of the '67-'68s without the front bumpers don't have this FMIC so they look good without it. Still researching ideas to redo the exhaust tips.

Thanks! Is there better pictures of the exhaust/tip your talking about. I can't figure it out from that picture.

With the exception of the import power and that exhaust....the car looks absolutely beautiful.

I actually want to expose my IC in front and will not run a bumper. If you are worried about protecting it, some people make a mesh cover for the 2 vent openings there. I personally like the industrial look of an exposed IC. Painting/coating it black would be good if you wanted to hide it too.

You really did a fine job on the interior. That screams exotic to me, something we don't see often in these muscle cars. :)

Thanks! What I meant with the intercooler exposed is that literally the bottom part of the intercooler comes out of the vent, hard to describe in words. But its not flushed. At least to me it looks funny. I'll post a pic of the bumper removed and see what you guys think.

Oooh, I thought you meant you didn't want to see it. That must be a big IC! Yeah, throw some pics up when you get a chance.

I also respect the fact that, after building such an interesting and "controversial" car to some, you are taking suggestions and opinions with open arms here. Very cool. :)

they are slash cut to the side of the car. heres a close up pic:
http://www.skulte.com/albums/NASCAR-...ance.sized.jpg

not into the side skirt thing on this one, but you get the idea:
http://www.iroczone.com/Carlisle2007...odified_06.JPG

Those are cool, but I don't think possible for the setup on this car. The exhaust side exit will interfere with the subframe connectors. The ground clearance on the car is pretty low as it is already, and running 3" exhaust piping reduces this clearance.

they are available in 1-1/16 to 1.5 inch thickness.. i think that ought to clear

https://www.drgas.net/category.php?cid=45&catid=5

also the very reason they are on nascar cars, where they are called boom tubes.. is to disperse the "crack" from fumes exploding in the exhaust and mellow the boom to a rumble.... it will do the very same on your "ricer-spec" monster engine.... (no disrespect intended :-) )

Would you be willing to share the paint code on this 67' Camaro? This is the color I've been looking for and its on a 67' same as my car. Thanks, Travis

Hot Mag
 

Hey Ted congrats on the Hot Rod MAg right up! Looks good!:cheers:

Yep, just read that last night. Great stuff! Congrats Ted! :thumbsup:

Got my issue last week...still in shock.

This car was obviously built for a reaction...here's mine:
I HATE IT...

Take one tastefully done 1st Gen Camaro,add a Supra 6-cylinder and tack on four boy-fighter exhaust tips and you too can be a hit with the ricer crowd.

Sorry...I must be a staunch died-in-the-wool Chevrolet fan...because I would take my own life before even considering putting a Japanese engine in an American classic....but then again,I'm no fast & furious fan either.

Sorry,gotta go now and burn a magazine...

Wow, how do you really feel about this car? :lol:

I also don't agree with the engine choice, but the car (aside from the exhaust) is VERY good looking ! To each their own on powerplants though.

Jason

Congratulations on the mag coverage. IMHO it does fit into the ricer scene though. I don't care for the drive train swap, exhaust, or the interior. Regardless, I understand the amount of work that must have gone into it.

i dont really agree with that combo either, but i dont really care my lil bro Andy got a pic of him and his first car (72 Nova) in the same issue!! Congrats Andy! :)

Damn some of you guys are tough. Funny, I used to be die hard Chevy fan and didn't even like Ford or Mustangs, but now I just appreciate cool cars and styles and something unique like this.

Open mind much? Apparently not..... :rolleyes:

I applaud you and YOUR take on making a camaro stand out, let's face it now days it is EXTREMELY difficult to make a 1st gen stand out! BUT you have done something different to differentiate your self from the "I got one too crowd".
I am sure EVERYONE with a camaro can post their cars and SOMEONE will say "oh I don't like this or I don't like that" so for the love of god let the man enjoy the fact that he took the time to fabricate something different. That's what I love about this hobby...........it is constantly EVOLVING and the ability of someone to have an open mind and EMBRACE change!

Bravo for standing up and doing something different. Who cares if it's a Toyota motor. It makes gobs of power and the car, especially the interior, looks absolutely stunning. I really like the interior, in fact that is similar to what I'll be going for eventually. What I would really like to see is this care compete at that event after SEMA who's name suddenly escapes Me. I'd like to see this car go head to head on the track in more than a straight line and see if there are any advantages to the ay it makes power or if there are any weight distribution advantages.

As far as all the people complaining about this car, there is a really simple solution. Go build your own car. Why tell some one how wrong there project is when it's done well. I mean making fun of an '86 Camry with a $40 shopping cart wing screwed to the deck and 13" spinner hubcaps is different. This is a very well project done in good taste with an alternative power train. A friend of mine was shunned at pro-touring.com a few years ago for describing his project. A 1976 Toyota Corona sedan that he got for free. He has a middle of the road income and a family to support so making do with what he has is his only option. He described his long term plans of building the suspension( very similar in layout to a 1st gen Camaro) and sourcing a 2JZ supra motor. Everyone ridculed him for building an import saying it wasn't pro-touring because it wasn't an American muscle car. Taking an old car that's not a sports car and turning it in to one is very pro-touring. It doesn't matter where the car came from or where the parts came from. The beauty of this hobby is to each his own.


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Camaro
 

Great Job on the car it has some really neat ideas .

It is Viper Clear Coat Red!

Thanks David! When is the next cruise?!

Thanks a lot! I look forward to the completion of your '68! I can say I contributed a lil bit towards it! haha

I hope people don't get me wrong. I've been doing V8 swaps for about 6 or so years now. It was time to motivate myself and my mechanics with something new and exciting. The whole reason behind the car is because I do have a lot of experience with MKIV Supras. I've owned MKIV Supras with 950-1,620HP, all proven reliable on and off the strip. So why not give it a try.

"Embrace Change" is one of my mottos in my work environment! ;)

I'll quote Rajunz from the Hot Rod Magazine forum. He pretty much explained how I feel and the definition behind Hot Rods.

"Extremely cool, and it's about time Hot Rod has the balls to feature such a car. It's hot rodding at it's core, it's what the hobby was founded on. Back in the day when the Turbo Supras came out, Hot Rod Magazine embraced the cars with opened arms, but somehow through the years things got skewed to where it has become basically just another domestic (mainly GM) publication. Don't we have enough of those on the newsstands already. Personally, I think that it's almost the duty of Hot Rod Magazine to get out there and open up people's minds to all of the possibilities of hot rodding. Half of the readers out there are afraid of anything besides a bolt on carburator, there's a whole other world of performance out there. What does it matter that it was made in a land far, far away? So are their big screen TV's, car stereos and most everything else out there today. "

Let's also not forget that 90% of the reproduction parts for our 1st Gens are made in Taiwan or China.

Tom thanks! You sir make some bad ass motors! ;)

How can anyone hate that interior?? Man some people really dont like change. Car looks bad to the bone with or without the motor.

Ill have a set of CF bumpers for the 68 very soon. They would look right at home on your car.

Absolutley out of the box thinking..I LOVE it more so with black wheels.

dont let all the die hards get ya down. I like to be diffrent also.

You hit the mark with this one.:hail:

Thanks Ted. Yes you did contribute. :D

I'll be talking to you as I near completion.....

cheers

I agree with you 100%! I have a friend who, when someone starts talking crap about a car always has the same question for them; "And which car is yours?" It's funny, but usually the people who nitpick someone's ride the most are the ones who don't even own a cool car.

Personally, I think it's a cool Camaro! I'll admit that I liked it better without all the carbon fiber on it, but it's still a cool ride!

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

here is my $.25.... I have a chevelle, and a 71 ford, a honda accord and a Honda Odyessy. I have had hondas as daily drivers for 20 years and love them (great milage, reliable, and comfortable). The one thing I can not stand is the import crowd. I will never again go to another import event. I just a thug and gang no respect crowd for the most part. The camaro here is great, and I absolutely love it. Its just what the tuner crowd is for most part i resent and at that I do not want to attract this crowd (or alienate) in my opinion (if this makes sense).

Can't speak bad about the Supra or the 6. SW can spank just about anyone out there with a Texas mile at 240+ and high 8's in the quarter.

I would say I hold more of a grudge about the motor then the actual non V8. Its like I don't mind so one checking out my wife with a quick glance, but if someone takes it upon themselves to force themselves upon her right smack dab in front of me and they tell me to piss off, then I am going send them to the hospital for a long time...

Well this may sound kind of dumb, but makes sense to me....:thumbsup:

Blessings,

AMS

I like the car but I would never put that motor in a muscle car. It's just not my taste and it's like letting your best buddy screw your old lady. Just doesn't feel right or look right. That being said I do think it's a nice build and if you like it and the masses like it who cares what I or anyone else thinks for that matter.

There is a reason the call the camaro "American Muscle" and this sir is not American!!!! but it is creative and a nice build.