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byndbad914 05-05-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMcqueenRules (Post 209512)
What? So GM just took the Ford Small block and perfected it? You base this on what?

Have you ever had an LS apart? Take the LS engine apart, take a 289/302/351W apart and lay them side by side and you will see incredible similarities, especially if you tear apart a 350 and lay it down as well. The LS is far more a next iteration of the 90deg Ford platform than the SBC platform.

The head gaskets on the LS are damn near exactly the same as a SBF - to the point of uncanny. I was astonished the first time I saw an LS head gasket having built a ton of both GM and Ford engines and immediately thought it was a SBF gasket that was somehow mixed in by accident.

It is just too bad that GM didn't use the taller 9.5" deck height v. the more Cleveland-like deck - you could get a better stroker out of them. My blood ran Ford blue until the the mod motor started changing my taste and LS engine series and 6th gen Vettes have virtually nailed the coffin shut.

Back on topic, the color looks great! Is that Grabber blue? And man, that girl's got some hips! :D

Bryce 05-05-2009 05:07 PM

i like the color great choice, But what is with the paint on the axle housing and brakes? were those just mock up items?

SteveMcqueenRules 05-05-2009 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by byndbad914 (Post 210605)
Have you ever had an LS apart? Take the LS engine apart, take a 289/302/351W apart and lay them side by side and you will see incredible similarities, especially if you tear apart a 350 and lay it down as well. The LS is far more a next iteration of the 90deg Ford platform than the SBC platform.
:D

So GM took a 30 year old motor from Ford A motor that is inferior to an SBC and just updated it?:rolleyes:

57hemicuda 05-06-2009 09:00 PM

Really love this part of the project,when it starts turning into a car.

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...58_gnkHM-L.jpg

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...88_5W5db-L.jpg

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...00_FSLtw-L.jpg

Ventoso 05-06-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMcqueenRules (Post 210697)
So GM took a 30 year old motor from Ford A motor that is inferior to an SBC and just updated it?:rolleyes:

Big words.

Both the early SBC and SBF motors have flaws, but one of the dumbest things Chevy ever did was drive the oil pump and distributor at the end of the motor opposite the timing chain. At high RPM's you can get some seriously funky-ass torsional twist on anything shy of a billet core cam, and even then, a good custom cam grinder will actually compensate with a "twist" ground into the cam to alleviate shifting valve events at high RPM.



Sorry for the hi-jack, car looks awesome. :thumbsup:

SVPJason 05-07-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 5280/4 (Post 210619)
i like the color great choice, But what is with the paint on the axle housing and brakes? were those just mock up items?

that's just what I was thinking!!!

byndbad914 05-07-2009 08:37 PM

57 - you probably missed my question and I have no desire to educate others on engine design anyway.... what color is that? Grabber blue?

Also, I really like what you did around the window areas - looks really smooth and blended.

57hemicuda 05-08-2009 05:06 AM

Its 2010 Mustang Grabber Blue,I don't know if its the same as the old Grabber Blue or not.Sun has been hiding in these parts for weeks,finally came out yesterday,and I took acoupe pics.Ron

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...76_zyJ9F-L.jpg


http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...10_segJX-L.jpg

57hemicuda 05-11-2009 09:42 PM

Getting more of the sheetmetal sprayed and installed.

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...12_Pwr5x-L.jpg

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...89_DonRJ-L.jpg

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...47_XpqjV-L.jpg

joe440 05-11-2009 09:47 PM

lookin good:thumbsup:

Payton King 05-12-2009 07:56 AM

At least you are not waiting till the last minute
 
Can't wait to see it

city_ofthe_south 05-12-2009 08:33 AM

Great color choice. Any stripes? Or numbers maybe?

57hemicuda 05-20-2009 05:33 PM

Here is the car going sideways through the AutoX in Georgia

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...76_Cofmh-L.jpg

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...89_unvgn-L.jpg

Bryce 05-20-2009 05:40 PM

awesome, how was it to drive?

Rybar 05-20-2009 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 57hemicuda (Post 213634)
Here is the car going through the sideways through the AutoX in Georgia

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...76_Cofmh-L.jpg

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...89_unvgn-L.jpg

Those are sweet pics Ron, that is killer you got it done and running :thumbsup:

dodge 05-20-2009 06:20 PM

Car looks great :thumbsup: ...Can you be any more casual while driving:P :lol:

57hemicuda 05-20-2009 06:57 PM

The car was very stable and predictable.I felt like I could eat a sandwich while going through the turns.LOL.Seriously,if the car had someone who knew what they were doing driving it,it would have done pretty well.I had so much fun though,it would be hard to pry the keys from my hand.Ron

radrambler 05-20-2009 08:23 PM

wow
 
very cool

it looks great ...been watching the build and enjoyed your transformation of a ....left for no good junkyard fastback into a street machine

so how close to the original build budget did you keep it...?
whats the weight of the car?
it looks fun ....
can you post more pics of what it looks like under the hood ,finished or not ..

congrats :thumbsup:

tom

byndbad914 05-21-2009 12:40 PM

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that turned out looking great! Seeing it on an AX reminds me a bit of this one too ;) but much nicer fit/finish

57hemicuda 07-31-2009 07:53 PM

Make some upgrades to big Baer brakes,needed to upgrade wheels to fit the 15" rotors.CCW wheels just came in 18x11 front 18x 13 rear.They are taking a little time to grow on me,but they are works of art. Ron

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...78_bNfKc-L.jpg

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...83_FD37g-L.jpg

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...07_VU9q2-L.jpg

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nvr2fst 07-31-2009 08:44 PM

The CCWs are great looking wheels, dont see to many on stangs no matter what the year.Talk about filling in the gap with the 15" rotors. Car looks killer, nice stance.

dmc69 08-01-2009 05:01 PM

Wheels, hood, brakes, and stance.....it all looks good.

radrambler 08-02-2009 07:35 AM

wow
 
HOLY BIG ASS BRAKE UPGRADES BATMAN !!


:brix:

LOVE THIS BUILD, AMAZING WHAT YOUVE DONE WITH THIS FORMER JUNK YARD STANG...RECYCLING AT ITS FINEST
HAVE YOU HAD THE CAR ON SCALES? WEIGHT?

TOM

Norm Peterson 08-02-2009 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 57hemicuda (Post 226411)
Make some upgrades to big Baer brakes,needed to upgrade wheels to fit the 15" rotors.CCW wheels just came in 18x11 front 18x 13 rear.They are taking a little to grow on me,but they are works of art. Ron

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/photos...83_FD37g-L.jpg

Just what size tires are those, Ron? I can't seem to find that info anywhere.


Your car is precisely the sort of build that I'd like to do the whole of instead of mostly just chipping around the edges of.


Norm

HWY Nova 08-02-2009 10:47 AM

With the addition of the rims and brakes, where are you budget-wise?


--Eric

57hemicuda 08-02-2009 11:29 AM

I got the 15" Baer front brakes new off the Corvette forum for $1400,the rear 14" Baer's aren't in yet $1600.The wheels 18x11 & 18x13 CCW's $2900. The car was floating around $9000, so I'm at about $15,000 minus what ever I sell my old wheels and brakes for.Only have the front brakes installed ,but it is a MAJOR improvement in stopping. Ron

57hemicuda 08-02-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson (Post 226616)
Just what size tires are those, Ron? I can't seem to find that info anywhere.


Your car is precisely the sort of build that I'd like to do the whole of instead of mostly just chipping around the edges of.


Norm

The tire are 275-18 and 335-18 bfg's,and the car weighed 2750 before paint and fuel,I would imagine its about 2900 now,or 3100 with me in the car.

57hemicuda 09-27-2009 06:51 AM

Don't know if anyone saw this or not but,the LS1 in my Mustang let go at RTTH(rod came out the side of the block). Grant, the owner of Temptress got this video of the carnage, check out the guy at the left of the screen kick my rod across the parking lot. Ron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRWaitc8oWU

MoparCar 09-27-2009 06:12 PM

I saw the carnage over on pt.com. Wow. Sorry about the motor, but this build and car is one of my favorites. You nailed the style and substance. Great video for us to watch.....probably painful for you.

Thanks, Wes

tazzz2_ca 09-28-2009 09:56 AM

Hey Ron it was a pleasure meeting you at the RTTH's...... As I said there, I think your car is so cool buddy. I was happy to see it when down there as I had admired it from the photos of the Motor State Challenge... You know I think it's my favorite Mustang to date period....

I wish we hadn't slept through the auto X (heck us Canadian's never had great sense of time anyways LOL) as I would have love to see how the car handles first hand.... Anyways, we'll see you at the Motor State in the spring (maybe sooner else where) I hope bud.

Albert
(from Toronto with Green Formula)

57hemicuda 09-28-2009 02:03 PM

Thanks Albert,loved your car as well. Slept thru the Auto X?? You Canadians drinking some beer the night before (Ah).LOL Real good meeting you. Ron

tazzz2_ca 09-28-2009 02:34 PM

LOL what can I say Ron,,, that Canadian beer can pack a punch when consumed in copious amounts after a long day of "Flatbed touring of the Hills" ROFLMAO... Next year I'll be sure to eliminate the "IDE" error (idiot driver error) and put a full tank of gas in the Formula.....

On a serious note, we were up till 4am consuming multiple beers and walking main street.... I don't think Bill (or any of the other participants) would have appreciated a,,, shall we say challenged driver or at the very least a seriously hungover one LOL...

city_ofthe_south 09-28-2009 02:51 PM

bet if any of trans am drivers could see this thing today they'd be begging to go racing

70rs 09-28-2009 02:54 PM

The car turned out just AWESOME! I love it!! Sorry about loosing the motor. But now you have a valid excuse to build a stronger one right? Nothing wrong with more power...:D

57hemicuda 02-24-2010 06:08 PM

Started the assembly of my replacement LS7. Check out the bore differnce between The ls7 and LS1. Putting some good rod bolts in it in the hopes I won't have a relapse.Should have assembled this weekend

Going to try to put the car on a little diet, in the hopes I can get as much weight out of the car as the dry sump crap weighs. Tank and 3 gallons of oil is heavier then you think. Ron

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/Cars/M...21_gwrhc-L.jpg

http://troyboy468.smugmug.com/Other/...51_UVVMD-L.jpg

radrambler 02-24-2010 06:43 PM

cool
 
Ron

Glad to see your getting it going again..A TRUE HOME GARAGE BUILT MACHINE THATS KICK A$$. :thumbsup:

Tom

Payton King 02-25-2010 08:57 AM

Dude!
 
You really need to re-name this thread. "Muttstang" does not even come close to do this thing justice. I cannot come up with what you would call it, but if you relisted it...Ron's junk out in the open, would probably get you more hits and maybe a date. LOL

Vegas69 02-25-2010 09:27 AM

Coming from the proud owner of Dead Cat. :rofl:

tazzz2_ca 02-25-2010 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 57hemicuda (Post 271470)
Started the assembly of my replacement LS7. Check out the bore differnce between The ls7 and LS1. Putting some good rod bolts in it in the hopes I won't have a relapse.Should have assembled this weekend

Going to try to put the car on a little diet, in the hopes I can get as much weight out of the car as the dry sump crap weighs. Tank and 3 gallons of oil is heavier then you think. Ron

http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/Cars/M...21_gwrhc-L.jpg

http://troyboy468.smugmug.com/Other/...51_UVVMD-L.jpg


Man I love this car,,,,,, Ron you did a killer job buddy and I can't wait to have you out with the pack again bud....

57hemicuda 02-25-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 271599)
You really need to re-name this thread. "Muttstang" does not even come close to do this thing justice. I cannot come up with what you would call it, but if you relisted it...Ron's junk out in the open, would probably get you more hits and maybe a date. LOL

Ron's junk out in the open? Thats the title of the thread I have on the OTHER web site I frequent. Only gotten like 2 hits,and alot of bad feedback. LOL

Lets see we could call it, a whole bunch of mismatched sh*t on one chassis, or maybe, ZO6 Mustang. I'll have to think about it awhile, I really wouldn't know how to change it anyway. Ron


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