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Time to bring this back from the dead!!!
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/7d/89/5c/7...ython-dead.jpg Well now where do I start, Life I guess happens this old pile of mine has been sitting patiently, well we did buy a new home for little more room and enough space to build a shop its 30x30 with a lift I figured I had to do this so when I retire I have a place to play with cars so in 2012 we built it, insulated it, roc'd it(UGH) painted and bricked it. I did buy and install a DSE subframe and that has made me re-engineer the exhaust that I had installed old sub out and new sub in also got fuel system in and plumbed then a good friend had a wreck in a ZL1! so...(always thought that it would be great parts car! well it was but its not going in this car :BlahBlah: |
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sad to say it was totaled! I looked into what I'd have to do to put a LSA in a first gen and I've seens several cars that its been done to so I looked ito other options like fixing the wrecked car, So while looking for a parts car on Copart, I was surprised that even wrecked 6 cyl camaro's bring a good bit of coin, I found this car stripped of engine, trans, tires, wheels, brakes and seats and instead of doing bodywork (I'm not that guy) it was more mechanical and right up my alley! I have to say I learned alot about the newer body Camaros! now I got the power and the complete suspension package of a ProTouring car that is LatG worthy and I am loving it! the handling, braking and all of it but now this ZL1 project is done, I am getting back on the Trans Am clone car. havent lost the want to about building this car just got sidetracked.
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Welcome back. Good luck making progress with the TA clone.
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OK the S/W headers I had for OE subfram will not work with this R&P dammit!
now 1000$ headers now are useless, I started looking for options other than the $2k+ headers I tried the Ebuy Speed Engineering that almost worked looks like #1 tube would clear steering linkage! here are some views when they were installed, I was happy of the quality and fitment except the issue I have is how low they hang. So Im looking into another option - coming soon |
stainless works or ultimate headers for the dse subframe work great.
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when I spoke to SW they said they didnt have anything for DSE frame I looked at Ultimate and thought may fit but was expensive for shorty's.
I decided to go with stock Gen5 camaro headers from a Z28 not as fancy like SW but this isnt a max effort build. I have to figure GM felt it was worth building these special for the Z they had to be better than LS3 or LSA |
I used the same stainless tri-y manifolds with an LSA on my Art Morrison subframe. They are a quality piece and should work better than cast manifolds. I saw one guy that had them polished but I am retaining the factory heat shields.
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They look like they fit good, plenty of room.
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I was gonna say, remove the heat shields and either polish or coat them but Don beat me to it. I think they look great.
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Going to run with OE heat shields I'd ceramic coat them but they wouldnt look that good IMO with all the bosses welded to tubes for the heat shields
Edit note went back and deleted Photobuckets dead link and uploaded more pics, theyre not 100% in order so excuse me, no fun looking back if you dont know how it started |
Nice project!! I'm in Dallas too...Mesquite area.
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Time to concentrate on the bird! I'm actually in Lewisville this site used to be blocked by my work so Shh, maybe they wont go back but I have more time during work to post in evening. this car is my most challenging one for couple reasons its a LS swap - my first doing alot of updates like new electrical system rewiring with AWW kit, minitubbing (its done) but little nervous about wheel and tire sizes(to me this is something you have to nail right the first time) too small looks funny too big and rubbing isnt fun! dealing with painters my first got me close but no bananna. and some small challenges like I know what I need and can do but dont have the right tools to do it, I'm a hobbyist not so much a fab shop. mine isnt going for show car, best of anything just building it to drive and enjoy it |
update, new subframe made eng/trans move back so I had to get new driveshaft shortened :hitaxeonthehead:Check!
https://i.imgur.com/fvnlnhr.jpg?1 and had to change exhaust https://i.imgur.com/slVfqWV.jpg?1 tight around crossmember more than I like continuing on.... |
update got exhaust finished had to make my own head pipes from the 2" manifold outlet to 2.25" pipe to 2.5" header back system
Bought a couple 90's and couple feet of straight pipe https://i.imgur.com/48CECL3.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/ZVNRRgZ.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/FxR5gXK.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/5nG1MEV.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/GPlCFfu.jpg?1 Got them high enough no scraping over speed bumps https://i.imgur.com/G5VXVZc.jpg?1 now I'm looking forward to electrical, not my strong point - doing AAW update kit I want ECM to control the fan- I'm using either a 3.8 Taurus or MkVIII (cant remember which I got a couple years ago) anyone have thoughts on a relay setup to use? |
Nice work on the exhaust!
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Ok I dug out the O gauge battery cable that I was saving for this car, courtesy of Unique Performance(the company that built Eleanor mustangs) when they were shut down I bought a couple of cabinets from auction and one was full of electrical supplies- probably 40ft of O gauge and a almost a full spool of 1 gauge cable, terminals, crimper 2 blue mechanics fans and a Mac vacuum bleeder to name a few :cool:
https://i.imgur.com/xKLH2fbl.jpg also had welder buddy reconnect new subframe to connectors https://i.imgur.com/uNnZ4Ogl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/i7CYFV6l.jpg and patch a weak spot on drivers front floor https://i.imgur.com/2IvIh2ml.jpg I also ran AAW harness front to back and wrapped it in a nylon sheathing to see how this was gonna fit/work although without head or taillights in car I'll just leave loose till they're installed and ready to wire up some progress but not alot, thinking that if I were retired I'd have more time to spend working on it |
Update: got shifter installed had to make hole more rearward than before
https://i.imgur.com/fKFotc3l.jpg and started making cables this is from firewall post to starter. ordering way more terminals than I thought I'd need also made 4 ga charge cable to alt https://i.imgur.com/nhKlve2l.jpg bought a 30$ hand held hydraulic crimper worked well IMO think I have enough cable? :lostmarbles: https://i.imgur.com/AowaMMnl.jpg |
long overdue update
Well this car has been sitting I have most of the harness installed more wiring run and been waiting on a friend that was going to rebuild my steering column and paint it I told him 1/2018 that I would need it soon and about a month ago I gave up and bought another off E-buy and waited for two and half weeks for USPS to get it from michigan to Texas unreal I could of walked it here faster so it finally arrived! so let the fun? begin......
note to self clean the counter off before momma gets home https://i.imgur.com/1Q6epI0.jpg |
I hate working on tilt columns there I said it. I have never completely tore one down before but I recently did one for my 90 Firebird so I'm a recently refreshed, but the newer ones with wiper/dimmer in column are a real pain so this wasn't that bad
this is a second gen going in a first so the firewall plate had to go https://i.imgur.com/ENh0PKv.jpg now its ready for prime time! https://i.imgur.com/lXZsZ6c.jpg and paint time I did add satin clear over it https://i.imgur.com/ttB4dNm.jpg now time to start assembling, if you haven't done this ever or want some help I found this thread was SOOOOO much help: http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...ck_Rebuild.pdf https://i.imgur.com/LjrM70Q.jpg then little more :wacko: https://i.imgur.com/3AJO0c7.jpg and finally... https://i.imgur.com/NO1h4M2.jpg |
Nice to see that you haven't given up on your project. Can't wait to see the finished product!
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https://i.imgur.com/XiRyWELl.jpg?1 but now I have to push this off a bit and concentrate on the 69 I wanna get it running at least then get it to the painter guy - member here- Mr. Hutton :poke: |
Little update column installed - sort of
http://i.imgur.com/LFu6EZtl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/3jAveBAl.jpg this took longer than expected as I had to install firewall pad and I already had fuse block, pedal hangers and parking brake installed Ugh I hate having to remove and reinstall then I spent another couple hours looking for Borgesen joint for column - gave up and bought one so some day I will find the one I lost :smiley_smack: at lease installing shaft wasn't too bad the good news is it fit with the 2015 Z28 headers that I went with :yes: https://i.imgur.com/KIqvvPql.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KCV2FYJl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HDvCRZzl.jpg so I'm happy something is done now the steering column a '80?? model didn't quite plug and play with the AAW classic update harness as I expected the T/S harness plug had to have a new connector installed (included in the kit) and it then clipped right into harness plug BUT the Ign switch plug didn't fit the later switch :bang: turns out the AAW harness fits stock 1969 Firebird column and they are different than the later so I called AAW and they have another plug that will need to be repinned to make this work :catfight: OK my rant here: if your going through installing an update harness why would AAW think your not putting a newer column IE tilt ot Ididit or and wire it for the common Ign switch and note that if your using the original 69 Firebird column you will need a new switch or include one that would work since this kit was supposed to be so inclusive?? Ok what do I know so I will wrestle with that next opportunity I have Funny thing is now when the steering wheel rotates L&R the front wheels turn?? WTH? :drowninga: |
Nice meeting you today.. Im starting to think Don knows everyone...
Love the project and the car talk, even though the wife broke into it ;) |
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So I have some more progress~ I bent up some sheet aluminum to mount the cooling fan
https://i.imgur.com/1V5fNlN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IucSrRZ.jpg well I ended up doing twice https://i.imgur.com/IbwOP4Ol.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LYpQcZ3l.jpg I like this now but this fan is kind of thick and will be a little hard to work the 4" air intake by it. If I end up using this I will add some sheet rubber between the brackets and tha radiator so it doesn't cause a leak later Vintage Air install is next on the list stay tuned... |
Another update: making it cool : literally
https://i.imgur.com/Q3GO3tXl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7FE0x6Fl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OSG8hwXl.jpg well, Vintage Air has pretty good instructions so its going fairly well-so far, I did find out with the Holley Bracket you need 97-01? Vette Tensioner and idler pulleys and the idler pulley goes on the tensioner and the tensioner pulley is mounted to bracket solid- the belt would of been K060960 except I used a U/D pulley so I needed smaller belt so 2 trips to O'reilly's auto parts Bam! got my belt chipping away at my list of to do's ! |
Some more progress - think were over the hump of Evap box in and out repetitions but time will tell, My son did the AC control mods and it was PITA not real good instructions - not mentioning that other brackets needed to be removed till it was together also bought new knobs and lend for it and a BIG thank you to him!
https://i.imgur.com/gww9a9Ch.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7yTEs5zh.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/BP9x0Y6h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2W3WAU0h.jpg?1 still need to install ducts and wiring but I think that'll be easier I couldn't imagine one person doing this install without a helper :buttkick: |
Now here's a score that I'm glad I did 6 hour road trip to Oklahoma for minimal rust and no repairs ever and under 5 bills- what y'all think?
I'm glad I talked myself into it :RunninDog: https://i.imgur.com/wtlnMoth.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HlfMOz8h.jpg |
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Got a little swap done this weekend and got both fender wells on, the inner fenders looks almost like new metal with nothing covering them! - will need to epoxy prime these after bits of rust is repaired. Then I started fabing block off plates for fenders
Check out new cold air - what ya think cut a hole in center of T/A hood and put a cone filter on top? :idea: man gotta cut back on drinkin and workin at the same time? https://i.imgur.com/9k8WMvch.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FphIouMh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PxTIkjmh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Yzy7eSih.jpg |
Do not tighten up the inner fenders wells until you have the front end, as in headlight surrounds, core support, lower valance, hood on and aligned etc. assembled. The inner wheel wells will prevent you from obtaining perfect gaps. Tighten them after final assembly. Love the 69 Trans Am's.
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have a little update, got some work done on the air intake just need to find someone to tig it for me happy with results never fabbed anything like this before so had to make a few cuts and see where it went. Definitely not professional I'm sure most would cut tubing with a band saw? I made due with my Sawzall :superhack: :knock: now once its been welded up- trying to decide what finish to put on it - raw? powder coat? bedliner? insulate it? |
Nice updates. Who's doing your work in Dallas?
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lookin good! think i'm gonna spray paint my air intake satin black. i'm in texas also, south of houston
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If you can do a Ceramic type barrier coating that insulates inside & out, you should. You can also then wrap the outside w/a secondary heat barrier (flexible exhaust wrap). Anything that helps prevent under hood heat from transferring which will impact the incoming air. |
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