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gardnerme 10-19-2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shanekennedy
harness work 300-500
pcm reprogram 100-300
or tuner software to program pcm yourself 500-1000
motor mounts 100-200
trany xmember 100-200
fuel tank efi replacement or conversion 500-1000
oil pan 200-500
new or shortened drive shaft 300-500

other possible needs:
o2 sensors &/or wideband for tuning
fuel regulator
fuel line
belt(s)
pullys/brackets
air filter
speedo d/a converter
raidator/fan

So, how does all this make installing a LSx less expensive than a conventional small block, again (not including headers and the air compressor issue)? Granted, you could install a SBC and still pony up all these cost with it, but you could also do it without a single one of these items depending on what you might already have.

chicane 10-19-2006 10:24 PM

Ok.... 365 days later.

71 to 28 for going with. I think this one is done.

shanekennedy 10-20-2006 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gardnerme
So, how does all this make installing a LSx less expensive than a conventional small block, again (not including headers and the air compressor issue)? Granted, you could install a SBC and still pony up all these cost with it, but you could also do it without a single one of these items depending on what you might already have.

i doubt a lsx engine is less expensive to install than traditional small block. it is prolly cheaper than traditional small block w/ efi.

Old Man 12-01-2006 02:42 PM

The 6.0 LTR iron block weighs approximately 100LBS more than the aluminum lS1 block. The iron block can handle way more abuse the aluminum block can. Alot of the LS1 nitrous guys run the iron block for strength.

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Originally Posted by jannes_z-28
The major difference with the truckmotor is it as a ironblock, otherwise they are the same. If you would go for really big boosted power you really need the iron block. Of course it is heavier than thoe others from aluminum but not heavier than a CSB. One benefit with the truckmotors is the price.

The obvious choice would be to go with the LSx



Jan


nitrorocket 12-01-2006 05:00 PM

Unless you want to go 8's, there is no need for an iron block. What I am saying is do not have any worries about either block you choose.

4OfaKind 12-15-2006 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gardnerme
So, how does all this make installing a LSx less expensive than a conventional small block, again (not including headers and the air compressor issue)? Granted, you could install a SBC and still pony up all these cost with it, but you could also do it without a single one of these items depending on what you might already have.

Most of these things are required if you are going to do an efi conversion regardless of LSx or SBC.
Some of these things you would want to upgrade or replace anyway no matter which motor you put in. (ie: drive shaft, motor mounts, and tranny crossmember depending on tranny put in)
The savings comes in if you get a complete motor.
For example a 6.0l LS truck motor can be bought complete for $1800 used. This includes ECM so you saved yourself $1000 from having to buy a BS3 or FAST. And you are making 350hp stock.

Here is an article that did a comparison to building similar motors:
Old vs New

Mal

pdq67 12-23-2006 09:14 PM

Never mind.

pdq67

chevymitchell 12-27-2006 12:18 PM

Blown LS6
 
I am installing a ProCharged (D1SC) LS6 on the new hydroformed sub frame from DSE. My engine is being built by Golen Engine Service. I am purchasing all FAST equipment, which is almost a grand cheaper going through Summit, and I am using MSD ignition. This is not the cheapest way, by far, but it's going to run sweet.

ss dave 12-28-2006 02:53 PM

Ok coming in late on the thread but just now pulled the trigger on an LS7 for the vert with a 4l60. Had to edit this because I just looked at my logged name. I've never been a "junior", somehow it makes me feel youthful, I'll think about that after my nap.

shanekennedy 12-29-2006 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ss dave
Ok coming in late on the thread but just now pulled the trigger on an LS7 for the vert with a 4l60. Had to edit this because I just looked at my logged name. I've never been a "junior", somehow it makes me feel youthful, I'll think about that after my nap.

are you doing anything to beef up the 4l60e?

Dave95z28 12-30-2006 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chevymitchell
I am installing a ProCharged (D1SC) LS6 on the new hydroformed sub frame from DSE. My engine is being built by Golen Engine Service. I am purchasing all FAST equipment, which is almost a grand cheaper going through Summit, and I am using MSD ignition. This is not the cheapest way, by far, but it's going to run sweet.

What mounting brackets are you using to mount the Procharger? Custom brackets or a production Procharger kit?

Dave

ss dave 02-11-2007 12:04 AM

I've haven't posted here in a while, but to answer shanekennedy, yes, beefin' the 4l60 thru Performabuilt trannys, go to their website to see mods. Using a Compushift kit with a Hurst dual gate shifter.

Silver69LS1 04-02-2007 06:14 PM

LSX Turbo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XcYZ
My next project will have a big inch LSx.



Anybody know of someone putting one of these in their car?

http://www.hotrodlane.cc/81bbcfrontdriver.gif

I just managed to pry one of the new LSX Tall deck blocks out of GM's hands. We have everything in the works to put together a 470CI Twin 70MM turbo setup together. This motor will have a lot of firsts (Crank, Heads, Intake and probrably a lot of other stuff). If all goes well, we hope to make some serious streetable HP. :thumbsup:

Stang's Bane 05-09-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver69LS1
I just managed to pry one of the new LSX Tall deck blocks out of GM's hands. We have everything in the works to put together a 470CI Twin 70MM turbo setup together. This motor will have a lot of firsts (Crank, Heads, Intake and probrably a lot of other stuff). If all goes well, we hope to make some serious streetable HP. :thumbsup:

I hate you:lol: I would really love to know how this is going. Will you be using the factory six bolt heads:cool: ???????

Silver69LS1 09-20-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
I hate you:lol: I would really love to know how this is going. Will you be using the factory six bolt heads:cool: ???????

After waiting a year, the final piece of my puzzle has arrived. The Tall Deck LSX was just delivered! This block is one of three that were ever produced. Hopefully, in the next few weeks, I'll have some pics of the engine.

I will be using a six bolt head from ETP.

Rhino 09-21-2007 12:35 PM

As of today, just a shade under 75% of people responding are planning on an LS motor? That's an impressive number for an engine swap with so many responses.

waynieZ 11-20-2008 03:05 PM

I answered no because I started collecting parts Four years ago and I already have a Gen 1 complete set up . But I wish I would have waited. When I started it was a lot harder to get information and engines . It was exotic. Now with all the parts and information its tuff not to be satisfied with my power plant.
XcYZ who make parts for the big block?
Wayne

XcYZ 11-20-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 178490)
I answered no because I started collecting parts Four years ago and I already have a Gen 1 complete set up . But I wish I would have waited. When I started it was a lot harder to get information and engines . It was exotic. Now with all the parts and information its tuff not to be satisfied with my power plant.
XcYZ who make parts for the big block?
Wayne


I hear you Wayne. The technology is hard to beat.

Street and Performance makes those parts.

AJSZR2326 01-28-2009 01:07 PM

yes i ordered my 454lsx ho for my 69 camaro

tones2SS 04-19-2009 11:52 AM

454 LSx
 
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Originally Posted by AJSZR2326 (Post 191831)
yes i ordered my 454lsx ho for my 69 camaro

Do you have the engine installed yet?
Just wondering what your opinions are on it. Looks/sounds like a stout motor.
This is the FI set up and not the carbed version correct? THANKS!!:thumbsup:

cencal69 04-21-2009 11:56 AM

Wow. Reading this from start to finish is like opening up a time capsule.

Me, I'm going hella old school technology. LT1 from a 97 Camaro.

tones2SS 04-21-2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cencal69 (Post 208380)
Wow. Reading this from start to finish is like opening up a time capsule.

Me, I'm going hella old school technology. LT1 from a 97 Camaro.

I do believe they were LT1's correct?
Any mod plans for the LT1?:thumbsup:

AJSZR2326 04-22-2009 09:14 AM

motor is not in car yet, waiting for jake to finish body and suspension it will be mated to a 6l80 and paddle shifted. motor is at his shop and it is f/i , i havent released any details as there some things being done to car that no one has done yet. should be ready by june , not a trailer queen for sure.

93Polo 05-31-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tones2SS (Post 208384)
I do believe they were LT1's correct?
Any mod plans for the LT1?:thumbsup:

I have had bolton LT1s and a H&C LS1. Always wanted to build a Vortec SC'd 9:1 LT1 with a 6 speed behind it. A few friends had them in C4s and 4th gens and they would fly, nothing like the sound of the blower either.

fatelvis 09-30-2009 05:08 PM

lsx in 69 camaro
 
just finished my 69 camaro, ls6 from 02 vette , why ? because my ls1 49 chevy pickup has had the holy hell beat from it for 5 years now, still runs strong. Loved them both so much I put a 5.3 in mt 95 chevy 4wd. power plus gas milage, who'd of thunk!

64duece 10-08-2009 09:59 AM

we just installed a carb'd LS2/T56 setup in a 67 RS Convertable. We used Hooker adapters and headers with some mods to the frame bracket location was a pretty straight-forward fit. We re-fabbed the "bolt-in" trans x-member to get the geometry and fit right. All in all it's a pretty simple simple deal.

Our next candidate is a 69 RS twin turbo'd LSx with a bunch of the fun goodies like aftermarket PCM, paddle shifted 4L60, drive-by-wire, twin fuel system etc. Should be a fun wiring project!!!

6OHNOVA 01-26-2010 03:34 PM

Nothing like having a 800hp 93 octane pump gas motor. That starts on the turn of the key every time. I drive the piss out of mine. Its a LQ4 6.0 with ported heads and F1A, backed up by a T56 with a Spec Stage 3 plus. It drives like a stock LS1 till it starts to build boost then the tires are useless. Here is a pic.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...2/DSC04012.jpg

tones2SS 01-28-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 6OHNOVA (Post 265025)
Nothing like having a 800hp 93 octane pump gas motor. That starts on the turn of the key every time. I drive the piss out of mine. Its a LQ4 6.0 with ported heads and F1A, backed up by a T56 with a Spec Stage 3 plus. It drives like a stock LS1 till it starts to build boost then the tires are useless. Here is a pic.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...2/DSC04012.jpg

That's bad ass man.:wow:

98ssnova 03-01-2010 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6OHNOVA (Post 265025)
Nothing like having a 800hp 93 octane pump gas motor. That starts on the turn of the key every time. I drive the piss out of mine. Its a LQ4 6.0 with ported heads and F1A, backed up by a T56 with a Spec Stage 3 plus. It drives like a stock LS1 till it starts to build boost then the tires are useless. Here is a pic.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...2/DSC04012.jpg

More pic of your car please:woot:

Steve1968LS2 05-07-2010 06:29 PM

This thread has been around so long that I need to change my choice.. and the list needs to be expanded! lol

LS2/454

http://i40.tinypic.com/k1p3xx.jpg

Track Junky 05-08-2010 01:59 PM

I'm doing and old school aluminum block 427 with the LSX firing order. According to my builder the firing order swap will be good for harmonics. Will see on the 13th, should be interesting.

Noodles 06-13-2010 07:55 AM

LSX Tall deck
 
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Twin 72 turbochargers on A tall deck LSX in A 69.Sorry for the crappy phone pics.

Steve1968LS2 06-13-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 286519)
I'm doing and old school aluminum block 427 with the LS2 firing order. According to my builder the firing order swap will be good for harmonics. Will see on the 13th, should be interesting.

That sounds pretty cool.. and certainly different!

XLexusTech 06-18-2010 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 291625)
That sounds pretty cool.. and certainly different!



X2 and I would love to go that way too... butt when i lokked ito it I couldnt find a block under 3 K

Huuummm anyone know what a world products mowtown lite short block goes for? it might start looking affordiable

nicks67ca 11-01-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 286519)
I'm doing and old school aluminum block 427 with the LS2 firing order. According to my builder the firing order swap will be good for harmonics. Will see on the 13th, should be interesting.

Any details on this? Special ignition / or control box? or is it as simple as changing the ignition wires?

XLexusTech 11-08-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nicks67ca (Post 314253)
Any details on this? Special ignition / or control box? or is it as simple as changing the ignition wires?

Need a diff cam... thats it...

8.1 chevelle 12-18-2010 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XcYZ (Post 18421)
My next project will have a big inch LSx.



Anybody know of someone putting one of these in their car?

http://www.hotrodlane.cc/81bbcfrontdriver.gif

yes got 1 in a 67 chevelle

DETON8R 01-01-2012 09:58 PM

LS1 and T56 on a Budget?? Sort of....
 
BUMP to the Top!!

I bought a wrecked 99 Camaro with a T56 which is swapping into my 1969 Camaro. Lots of parts are finding their way into the first-gen, the dash, steering column, console, front seats, e-brake set up. It is a lot cheaper then you might think if you can find a donor car with all kinds of working parts to steal from. Selling parts off the 1999 to help fund the 1969 build. I bought a 1969 painted shell that someone else ran out of money and I picked it up. Not exactly a budget build, but a TON less than most other projects shown under construction on this site.

I think I just might be :willy: CRAZZZZY :willy: enough to get the gauge cluster, trunk release, wiper motor and cruise control working in it too after I tear apart the wiring harness and delete the unnecessary stuff.

I don't want to mess with the stock ABS, heater or sound systems from the 1999. I'm planning to go aftermarket for the heater/AC and sound system.

6D9 Matt 01-02-2012 01:01 PM

Hopefully by the fall I will be close to deciding on a setup. But right now Im leaning towards an LS3/stroker. Then maybe throwing a blower or snail on it down the road... :unibrow:

Track Junky 02-26-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nicks67ca (Post 314253)
Any details on this? Special ignition / or control box? or is it as simple as changing the ignition wires?

Sorry for the late response, missed it.

The aluminum first gen small block is from PBM. No special ignition, just a cam with LS firing order, MSD distributor w/6AL box and it is naturally aspirated. I picked up the motor from NYES Automotive out of Muncie, Indiana. Motor came with everything but carb, distributor, and accessories for $9500 including 168 tooth fly wheel and Moroso pan. I worked a deal to where I sent them my intake, Canton road race pan, and in trade they supplied a Hays aluminum flywheel. I also sent them my carb, distributor, and Lakewood bellhousing and they aligned the bell housing and dyno'ed the motor for me all inclusive so I couldn't pass.


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