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customcam 03-20-2009 05:36 PM

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How cool is that! Tom cant wait too see the process Thank you

camcojb 03-21-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TOM NELSON (Post 202750)
Well This was the first time i ever offered a group purchase on engines and i think it worked out great I'm happy to say that i sold the three engines needed and will be able to provide the engines for 19995.00.The coolest thing about this was this was posted on many other boards but all three sales came from lateral-g members.And all three customers took the savings of 6000 dollars per engine and upgraded into bomb proof bottom ends all three guys got the Lsx iron gm block upgrade,Oliver billet rods,Callies crankshaft.And are going into my new billet crossram Ir intake manifold for the ls And they are still under the original price price of 26000.00.I'm going to do a full build pics threw the entire process including dynoing and video for everyone so you guys can see what goes into it.Just wanted to say thanks and i'll keep you updated as we go there still is probally another week for any of you who might have been interested to get in on this run and get the savings Talk to you soon Tom

that's great news Tom, glad the members took advantage of the deal.

Jody

mazspeed 03-21-2009 03:42 PM

Is upgrading the right word with going with the iron block? I am curious how much the ls3 al block can handle power wise??

Datsbad 03-22-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mazspeed (Post 202944)
Is upgrading the right word with going with the iron block? I am curious how much the ls3 al block can handle power wise??


Most definately a upgrade.
The LSX block is superior to all the other blocks made.
6 Bolts per cylinder for the heads will greatly aid in clamping force as the LS motors are know to push water .

mazspeed 03-22-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Datsbad (Post 203113)
Most definately a upgrade.
The LSX block is superior to all the other blocks made.
6 Bolts per cylinder for the heads will greatly aid in clamping force as the LS motors are know to push water .

I thought the LS3 also had a 6 bolt head design. Isn't the LS3 block stronger then the LS2? The LSX block is also much heaver though, so why would you want the iron block if you were looking for 800 hp or so? Again I don't know so that's why I ask.

Datsbad 03-22-2009 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mazspeed (Post 203124)
I thought the LS3 also had a 6 bolt head design. Isn't the LS3 block stronger then the LS2? The LSX block is also much heaver though, so why would you want the iron block if you were looking for 800 hp or so? Again I don't know so that's why I ask.


Only gm block with 6 bolt is the LSX iron block . It is 100 lbs heavier.
Ls2 and LS3 block are most likely about the same for power capabilties.

mazspeed 03-22-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Datsbad (Post 203126)
Only gm block with 6 bolt is the LSX iron block . It is 100 lbs heavier.
Ls2 and LS3 block are most likely about the same for power capabilties.

Gotcha.
I did think the LS7 was a 6 bolt?

mazspeed 03-23-2009 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparky67 (Post 203240)
No, the LS7 block is weaker than LS2/LS3 blocks. Although, in pro-touring car do you need more than 1200 hp? Also, the LS2,LS3, and LS7 blocks allow you run Katech Piston Oil squirters. Something that you might want to include on your next supercharged/turbo build.

Jeff

http://www.kodakgallery.com/67rscamaro

Yeah no one needs 1200hp. Not for a PT car anyways. I do like your motor though. That looks bad ass. Did you ever get dyno numbers on that, and who built it?

TOM NELSON 03-23-2009 09:47 AM

ls3 versus Lsx
 
These guys went this route to basically bomb proof the bottom ends The l2/ls3/ls7 all only have four bolts per cyl head but thats not why i upgraded them if you were only going to run 800 hp the factory block is good but beyond that you get into problems of spliting the sleeves and the material behind the sleeves,and after talking to everyone who bought one one guy is running Maxon the other two are natural born nuts .And with this motor the only reason its rated at 800 hp is because of the block ,crank rod combo.with the block crank and rod upgrade the motor makes over 1300hp.After all the horsepower is just a turn of a knob away so everyone felt more secure this way.Plus it will allow me to ring it out for everyone to see what they have in them.But the block is heavier but i think everyone could live with that.

mazspeed 03-23-2009 10:29 AM

Thanks for that Tom. :D

Speedster 03-23-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TOM NELSON (Post 203311)
.. the only reason its rated at 800 hp is because of the block ,crank rod combo.with the block crank and rod upgrade the motor makes over 1300hp...But the block is heavier but i think everyone could live with that.

Let's see add 100 lbs, gain 500 hp. You'd be hard pressed to find a better tradeoff anywhere...

Maxton sounds good for this type of build. This setup would also be nice in a car running the Silver State Classic...

Bowtieracing 03-23-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky67 (Post 203240)
No, the LS7 block is weaker than LS2/LS3 blocks.

Really ? How ? Where ?

Nvrenuf 04-04-2009 12:42 PM

Just curious Tom... I know you sold three. Are there more available, or no?

Speedster 04-04-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by swchopper (Post 205878)
Just curious Tom... I know you sold three. Are there more available, or no?

I am sure you could get one. Tom needed a minimum of 3, but I do believe he ordered enough for 5. PM him on here. Most days, it is impossible to get to him by phone. PM me if you can't get a hold of him.

TreySmith 04-04-2009 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowtieracing (Post 203367)
Really ? How ? Where ?

I heard that before too. BS? Idk, some guy said they didn't hold boost as well.

WSSix 04-04-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowtieracing (Post 203367)
Really ? How ? Where ?

The sleeves of the LS7 block take out so much material out of the block itself. GM even says the LS7 is not deigned to handle boost which is why they put a blown LS3 under the hood of the ZR1. They added some more doodads and changed a couple more parts and called it an LS9. It's a fancied up LS3 at it's core though. The ZR1 is only running 10 psi too and GM wouldn't let the LS7 be used because of long term durability.

TOM NELSON 04-07-2009 10:12 AM

is there any left
 
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Originally Posted by swchopper (Post 205878)
Just curious Tom... I know you sold three. Are there more available, or no?

Yes i ordered enough for 7 i have 6 sold so there is one more available at this price.As soon as the LSx blocks arrive which is taking forever i will start doing a really nice detailed build with pics for everyone.

rwhite692 04-12-2009 12:17 PM

Tom, Just got caught up on this thread....You're doing God's work, son.

Bowtieracing 04-13-2009 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 205935)
The sleeves of the LS7 block take out so much material out of the block itself. GM even says the LS7 is not deigned to handle boost which is why they put a blown LS3 under the hood of the ZR1. They added some more doodads and changed a couple more parts and called it an LS9. It's a fancied up LS3 at it's core though. The ZR1 is only running 10 psi too and GM wouldn't let the LS7 be used because of long term durability.

Thanks,this makes sense to me .

Bowtieracing 04-13-2009 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TOM NELSON (Post 206413)
Yes i ordered enough for 7 i have 6 sold so there is one more available at this price.As soon as the LSx blocks arrive which is taking forever i will start doing a really nice detailed build with pics for everyone.

Cant wait to get see this build Tom !!


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