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tgvettes 03-03-2010 06:49 PM

You showed me some small pics on your phone.

You should post some

Tonny

wedged 03-06-2010 02:40 PM

The upper control arm mounts on the D100 are done. This should hold up a lot better now. After talking with the owner today, I will be making some engine mounts so we can do away with the motor plate. The PS pump, alternator and AC compressor were hung from the plate so I'll have to make some new brackets for them.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/anti028.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/anti029.jpg

GregWeld 03-06-2010 05:16 PM

That's not nearly enough weld bead on there..... :rofl:

wedged 03-19-2010 03:27 PM

This is just mock up. Nothing is welded together yet.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/sliced-002.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/sliced-003.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/sliced-004.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/sliced-005.jpg

wedged 03-21-2010 03:04 PM

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/wheels008.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/wheels007.jpg

waynieZ 03-22-2010 10:07 AM

Those are some really big boys now!

wedged 07-28-2010 05:33 AM

over the last few months there has been some MAJOR changes in the Dakota project, some of which should make it a little more pro-touring oriented by potentially increasing the handling ability. Please keep in mind that this is being done with a tight budget and it's not being done to look like a show piece.

Behold :
Back when I was about 14, I had 1946 Dodge truck that never was on the road. This is a 1941, which is nearly identical. I was thinking of starting from scratch with it, then figured out a better idea. In this picture the wheels are just standing in the wells, there is no suspension or engine in the truck.
http://www.bigblockdakota.com/mockup002.jpg

stripped Dakota frame
http://www.bigblockdakota.com/bareframe-001.jpg

1941 Dodge truck cab on the frame
http://www.bigblockdakota.com/onframe.jpg

engine shot before setback
http://www.bigblockdakota.com/firewall.jpg

wedged 07-28-2010 05:42 AM

Had to cut out most of the floor and build a new one. It's not finished yet, because I have not finished with mounting the engine & trans.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/41floor.jpg

Originally I set the engine back about 14", but I am going to move it back forward about 4"-5" inches to gain back some room in the cab. The engine set back should help with handling.
http://www.bigblockdakota.com/dash01.jpg

Here's how it looks right now. The cab mounts have not been built yet, but the cab is tack welded in place so it can't get bumped out of place. The rear half of the frame will get cut off. I am planing on using 2"x3" or 2"x4" box tube for the back half. Due to the current budget, It will be leaf springs in the back for now.
http://www.bigblockdakota.com/skates01.jpg

wedged 07-28-2010 06:04 AM

The original long term plan called for twin turbos, mounted in the engine compartment. Partially because it would look good and partially because packaging of the cold piping from remote turbos would have been difficult on the Dakota. While working on the '41, I came to realize that the running boards and the space between the cab and frame would allow for the cold pipes to run up to the front without too much trouble. The engine compartment on the '41 would make it difficult to mount the turbos, unless they hung over the fenders or stacked above the intake, and I don't want to do that. I'm fairly certain I'm going to have lots of room for mounting the turbos just behind the cab, to the outside of the 24" wide rear frame section.


I'm thinking the truck doesn't really fit into any single category- rat rod, pro street, street rod, hot rod, pro touring, etc. So how is this pro-touring ? Here's my answer:
  • big block with modern EFi)
  • A/C
  • P/S
  • engine setback improving weight distribution
  • big sticky tires on all 4 corners
  • big 4 wheel disc brakes (Mustang Cobra)
  • over drive auto trans (518 auto)

From the begining, I wanted to build something that would be very unique, would be fun to drive, could be driven a long distance if needed. Putting the '41 body onto the Dakota chassis takes it from being an interesting Dakota that many people might overlook to something that people can't help but notice.

One thing I forgot to mention- aside from patching holes & potential leaks in the body, the body and paint work is done. :lol:

GregWeld 07-28-2010 06:16 AM

I like it!

I think you're going to have started a whole new genre of build with this project... instead of "rat rod"... I now dub thee:

THE RAT HANDLER


:hail: :thumbsup:

wedged 10-03-2010 12:37 PM

made a little more progress.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/stuffed06.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/stuffed05.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/stuffed01.jpg

waynieZ 10-03-2010 04:11 PM

That looks sweet.

tones2SS 10-03-2010 05:22 PM

That is going to look NASTY! Very nice.:thumbsup:

wedged 11-05-2010 02:18 PM

Just ordered my axles and housing ends. Lets hope I got all of the measurements right ! Once I have that stuff and tack the ends to the housing I can mock up the rear suspension.

ArisESQ 11-05-2010 02:37 PM

that looks badass! i hope you leave the "paint" as is

tones2SS 11-05-2010 04:11 PM

Very cool.:thumbsup:

wedged 11-05-2010 04:37 PM

The paint is going to stay as close to "as is" as possible. There are some spots on the cab at the windshield opening and rear window opening that have some holes I need to fix to make it water tight. The roof seam above the windshield also has some pin hole. The rear lower cab corners will get patched too. I did an experiment to attemp to make rust via a chemical reaction with common household ingredients and it worked well on some steel filings. I have to test it on sheet metal to see what it does. If that doesn't work ok, I'll just prime the patch areas and leave it.

tones2SS 11-06-2010 11:09 AM

Very cool. That is going to look very awesome.:yes: :thumbsup:

wedged 11-12-2010 10:29 AM

The shipment from Moser arrived today. Here's the axles, bearings, retainer plates, housing ends & T bolts. The Gleason Torsen diff was an ebay score. It's new but has some light surface rust.
http://bigblockdakota.com/moser001.jpg

Test fit of the ford mustang cobra brake rotor.

http://bigblockdakota.com/moser002.jpg

Donor Dana 60 full floater with ends torched off.

http://bigblockdakota.com/moser004.jpg

burnt ends

http://bigblockdakota.com/moser005.jpg

old rusty 4.10 peg leg guts

http://bigblockdakota.com/moser006.jpg

I was able to put most of the firewall back in place.

http://bigblockdakota.com/moser007.jpg


http://bigblockdakota.com/moser008.jpg

http://bigblockdakota.com/moser010.jpg

tones2SS 11-12-2010 04:26 PM

Making some progress. Very good. Keep us posted.:thumbsup:

R.A.D 11-12-2010 06:50 PM

looking good. just found your thread. i'm building a 58 dodge pick up to a dakota chassis. maybe i should post the build on this forum also. i'll be following your build
:cheers:

deuce_454 11-13-2010 02:06 AM

I love the switch to the 41 body.. my vote would be to mount the turbos above the valvecovers though.. that way they will be slightly visible thru the louvers and it can look prety nice if packaged nicely

here is a pic of a friend of mines 34 ford, TT ls7 with the water to air IC mounted between the turbos.. i kind of like the package..
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...Billede015.jpg

You can see the elbow from the forward discharge if the IC to the TB if you look closely

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...Billede016.jpg

The ballance pipe between the two sides was apparantly nessecary to keep the pulsing down but IMHO its more of an academic exercise

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...Billede014.jpg

The oildrain is just into the valvecovers.. works great and he has almost 10.000 miles on it.. and it runs low 9,s on pump gas.. but if a twin turbo ls7 in a 2600 pound car didnt run 9.s what would?

The only thing wrong with the setup is the Wastegate dump.. its LOUD when the boost comes on.. and he is changing that this winter

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...Billede017.jpg

wedged 11-13-2010 06:48 AM

funny you should mention that... Just yesterday I was thinking that it may be possible to do that. I held the one turbo I have in place and it looks like it might fit and still clear the sides and top of the hood. If I do mount them up front, it will save me a few bucks since I won't need a scavange pump and any IC piping would be shorter I should have room in front of the radiator for an IC or 2. I'll also need make sure that I fab things so I can quickly remove the turbos for maintanace or repairs with out hassles. The draw back would be the extra weight toward the front end instead of further back.

deuce_454 11-13-2010 11:27 AM

true about the weight... but much less complicated, and cheaper.. and if you mount the turbos with v bands and -an hoses it wont take long to remove them and the headers with the hood sides removed... and they will be visible in the enginecompartment :-)

R.A.D 12-03-2010 06:43 PM

any updates? hows the build going?

wedged 12-04-2010 05:13 AM

no updates. I'm working on 2 other vehicles and it's a one man show. :cheers:

R.A.D 12-04-2010 06:01 PM

i feel your pain. i know all about the one man show

wedged 12-11-2010 03:37 PM

more progress- I cut the bottom off of the U shape front fender support after I made some mounts and welded them on.

Here's a side shot. You can see the engine is placed so that it's mostly behind the axle center line.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge-010.jpg

Here's the mount made from some pipe and urethane bushings. It's out of focus because I took the pic by holding the camera up inside the fender and it's a bit too close.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge-009.jpg

Different angle

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge-004.jpg

One of the front cab mounts.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge-008.jpg

from the front

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge-005.jpg

looking out toward the rear cab mount

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge-007.jpg

upward shot of the rear cab mount. I'm not finished welding the mounts. I'll do that once I make the back 1/2 of the frame and pull everything back off of the frame.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge-006.jpg

I've got a good amount of clearance in front of the engine.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge-003.jpg

R.A.D 12-12-2010 04:31 AM

nice progress can't wait to see more

wedged 12-14-2010 02:48 PM

Installing the main caps and bushings.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/dana60-002.jpg

alignment bar in place

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/dana60-003.jpg

installing the pinion centerline tool

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/dana60-004.jpg

setting up the axle housing end.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/dana60-005.jpg

passenger's side is tacked in place and now grinding the driver's side

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/dana60-010.jpg

welding between the tack welds

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/dana60-013.jpg

fully welded end

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/dana60-014.jpg

wedged 12-30-2010 02:23 PM

butchered first generation dakota rotors. yes, they were cut on a lathe.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge022.jpg

poser shots

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge014.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge015.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge016.jpg

tones2SS 12-30-2010 04:37 PM

Very nice. That is going to be a mean looking truck.

wedged 12-31-2010 06:06 AM

The truck already has a set of 2" drop spindles on it. I'm using the stock ones to build the front brake kit. It's mustang cobra based with 13" rotors in the front. If you go back through the thread, you can see the 11" rear rotors.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge021.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge020.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge018.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/1941dodge017.jpg

wedged 01-11-2011 11:53 AM

over the last couple of days I ordered the parts for the triangulated four link rear suspension.

I've got 4 of these coming for the axle end of the links:

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/2008-1576-225.jpg

There's a set of these on their way:

http://www.swracecars.com/store/images/cart/40-223.JPG

And also some DOM tube to make the bars and bushing sleeves for the frame end of the bars.

wedged 01-22-2011 04:13 PM

the pile of goodies. Laser cut tabs & brackets from Ballistic Fabrication, Creeper joints from Foothills Offroad and coil overs from S&W Racecars.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/suspension001.jpg

This bracket kit is pretty cool It is keyed to position the brackets on the bottom plate. I'll have to modify it because it maxes out at 40 degrees and I want at least 60 degrees between the bars.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/suspension002.jpg

This is about where the upper will sit.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/suspension003.jpg


After measuring the brackets, I altered my CAD drawing. It looks like I'll have an instant center at about 99.5" forward of the rear wheels. The wheel base is 116".

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/suspension006.jpg

tones2SS 01-22-2011 04:59 PM

Very cool. Keep us posted.:thumbsup:

R.A.D 01-23-2011 05:25 AM

way to keep the blood flowing....

wedged 01-29-2011 03:49 PM

finally I was happy with CAD drawings of the frame, so I started cutting and welding.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/rearframe001.jpg

I drew the full scale layout on the surface of the welding table and tacked the frame. Then flipped it over to tack some more.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/rearframe002.jpg

Here's both arches side by side after tacking

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/rearframe003.jpg

I added the forward extensions. I'm leaving the rear portion for later, after the frame is welded together.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/rearframe004.jpg

It's way off in the next to pictures, but I had to drop it in place to see what it would look like.

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/rearframe005.jpg

http://www.bigblockdakota.com/rearframe006.jpg

I did not make any cross members yet. I'm not sure where I want them.

waynieZ 01-29-2011 04:00 PM

It looks good.

tones2SS 01-29-2011 06:26 PM

Great build Wedged. Keep us posted.


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