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Steve1968LS2 10-29-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by eville (Post 244181)
my guess is forced induction...

Not this time.. we have a 2300 TVS blower but felt it would be a rush to get it on and reliable.. after all, what good if more power if the car breaks?

So, with that in mind we just going for lightweight and nimble.

The wax paper is just protecting everything from brakefluid during the MC change.. I should have engaged in psychological warfare and put a loaf of wonder bread on top of the intake... lol

KPC67 10-29-2009 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 244174)
I love the S03s.. if you go to my fquick page linked at the bottom there are lots of pictures. Good wheels and light.

Steve, tell tell forgeline you sold them some wheels (well actually I had them picked before) but maybe you can swing me a deal:unibrow: kidding
(sort of) but when I can afford it thats what I will be going with. I just made a big purchase for my car so it will have to wait a bit. Anyway, Back to Penny:cheers:

Steve1968LS2 10-29-2009 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KPC67 (Post 244222)
Steve, tell forgeline you sold them some wheels (well actually I had them picked before) but maybe you can swing me a deal:unibrow: kidding
(sort of) but when I can afford it thats what I will be going with. I just made a big purchase for my car so it will have to wait a bit. Anyway, Back to Penny:cheers:

Hey, I won't lie.. i got a discount but they were still expensive. Nice wheels though.

buickfunnycar.com 10-29-2009 11:43 AM

Looking good Steve...wow amazed at how different Penny looks just from last Sunday!

Lightweight street fighter...:unibrow:

Steve1968LS2 10-30-2009 08:10 AM

Two days until we leave for SEMA.

All the Anvil CF stuff is on the car.. I must say that it fits REALLY good right out of the box. We have a gap between the hood and the front valance, but since these parts are only on the car temporarily we don't want to do modifications that will make putting the steel parts back on later.

Total weight savings was over 40 lbs.. closer to 50.

New weight, with 15 gallons of gas, is 3286. So the dry weight is about 3196. For optima the car will be another 16 pounds lighter since the race tires weight quite a bit less than the PS2s.

Front to rear weight bias is 52/48.. and a little better with a driver.

http://i34.tinypic.com/2mzihzs.jpg

Here are all the CF pieces in place and stickered up for Optima. Jimi Day asked me to run last years door sticker. I like the GS stripes more than I thought I would.

Anyways, I drove the car 80 miles home last night so I could do the Speedvision deal today and then I drive it back this afternoon. Everything is A-Ok so far.

http://i38.tinypic.com/jh3q4w.jpg

tony byram 10-30-2009 08:19 AM

Wow Steve! Penny looks up to the challenge, the forgelines look great! Now go blowem of the road! :thumbsup:

GregWeld 10-30-2009 10:12 AM

I love the GS stripes! I hate them on the Corvette GS (late model) but these on the Camaro make it look "race car"!

Great looking parts BTW.

Now... If I could just get Charley to part with "X" for about $35K -- I'd add a Camaro to the mix!
:rolleyes:

KPC67 10-30-2009 10:20 AM

Dang I like thoes wheels. Penny is lookin like she is in her prime, good job:thumbsup:

70rs 10-30-2009 10:22 AM

WOW Steve! She is looking GREAT!!! Good luck at the challenge!:cheers:

camaro2nv 10-30-2009 10:42 AM

Looks great, although In really like a solid color on your hood better. But that weight saving is NICE!

89 RS 10-30-2009 11:01 AM

Man, Penny looks awesome! Looks like it's time for business, love seeing the changes as usual! Good luck Steve, look forward to seeing the coverage. Can I ask what you did for Speedvision?

buickfunnycar.com 10-30-2009 12:39 PM

You should do real well this year Steve,good luck to you...:thumbsup:

rwhite692 10-30-2009 04:07 PM

Looks great Steve...what is the "Speedvision Deal"?

DFRESH 10-30-2009 07:05 PM

Sexy Beast

Steve1968LS2 10-30-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro2nv (Post 244528)
Looks great, although In really like a solid color on your hood better. But that weight saving is NICE!

This is just for SEMA.. like a Halloween costume :)

Steve1968LS2 10-30-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rwhite692 (Post 244599)
Looks great Steve...what is the "Speedvision Deal"?

They are covering the event for a show.. they shot the car (and our 2010 SS) and did interviews with Nick and myself..

I get too nervous in front of the camera.. lol

They also did some driving shots.. who knows what they will use.

Neil B 11-01-2009 04:57 AM

Wow, I like the CF pieces and the GS stripes. Very racey.

rogue 11-01-2009 03:20 PM

Penny looks great as usual.

NOT A TA 11-01-2009 03:29 PM

I like the stripes!

GvEman 11-03-2009 09:52 AM

Looks awesome as allways! :hail: The best looking Camaro on the planet! :willy: Sorry for acting silly. But thats true! :lateral:

ibdmann 11-07-2009 03:28 AM

steve1968 your car is awesome. Did you have that lateral d rear system installed. If so, what did it cost. If not does anyone know roughly what the labor cost would be to install into a 69 camaro with the interior already removed.
thanks

Steve1968LS2 12-05-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ibdmann (Post 246001)
steve1968 your car is awesome. Did you have that lateral d rear system installed. If so, what did it cost. If not does anyone know roughly what the labor cost would be to install into a 69 camaro with the interior already removed.
thanks

About $3800 but you might as well try capturing a yeti.. which is unfortunate. I think Mark may still be making them if you're willing to wait a LONG time.

IMO one of the best systems out there. Where are you located?

Steve1968LS2 12-05-2009 06:38 PM

She's at BOS right now where we will be pull the car mostly apart. The rear, trans and engine are coming out so that we can re-undercoat the bottom with something nicer.

The rear will be torn down, re powder painted and gone through by Currie enterprises. I think the tollerances are off on one of the ends resulting in a small leak.

The LS2 will go bye-bye and I will be building a 427 LS3. Instead of going crazy on stroke I will be sleeving a block at Darton. Concentrating on low and mid-range power.

Might swap to the AutoRad aluminum core support and radiator deal. I really like the HUGE opening afforded with this system and the massive size of the radiator.

Will also move from the radiator based oil cooler to an air type (Setrab).

Does it ever end? lol

awr68 12-05-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 252746)
Does it ever end? lol

No - not really....but it does keep getting better! And you have set the bar pretty high already!

Are you staying n/a with the LS3 or adding a supercharger?

Nice list of improvements for the season to come!! :cheers:

Kendall Burleson 12-05-2009 07:07 PM

Are you going to replace the rack or rebuild the unit?:yes: :yes:

Vegas69 12-05-2009 07:46 PM

Sounds like a great plan, I have a little something up my sleever right now as well.

Steve1968LS2 12-05-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 252750)
No - not really....but it does keep getting better! And you have set the bar pretty high already!

Are you staying n/a with the LS3 or adding a supercharger?

Nice list of improvements for the season to come!! :cheers:

N/A.. hoping for 630hp and a ton of torque.

I just don't want to add the weight of a blower since it would hurt me on the autocross (might help on the road course though)

Steve1968LS2 12-05-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendall Burleson (Post 252753)
Are you going to replace the rack or rebuild the unit?:yes: :yes:

I will most likely have the rack checked out by AGR.. and the pump is already back at Turn One getting some lovin'.

We're pretty hard on the car so it's time to do some R&R. I don't want parts failing at the wrong time.. again...

eville 12-05-2009 09:02 PM

Must be nice... Curie is right around the corner from my office. I'd love to check that place out....

mexMan 12-05-2009 09:41 PM

So, it's getting a new 427 LS3, what are you gonna do with the LS2? And what are the mods planned for the LS3? What tranny are you using? What about the drivetrain? Any body mods? I WANT TO KNOW!

Steve1968LS2 12-05-2009 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mexMan (Post 252785)
So, it's getting a new 427 LS3, what are you gonna do with the LS2? And what are the mods planned for the LS3? What tranny are you using? What about the drivetrain? Any body mods? I WANT TO KNOW!

lol.. same trans.. the T56 Magnum since I love it.. no really, I have deep feelings for that trans..

No changes to the rear either. I already have an alum case and lightened/polished gears. It's just going to get serviced since I'm re-powdering the housing.

No body mods at all.. But I'm working with BOS to rework the front inner wheelhouses to give more tire clearance and to properly fit around my upper control arms.

The LS3 will be sleeved so that I can run a safe 4" stroke and will have a FAST 102 intake, Trick Flow 235 heads and a larger cam on a 114 LSA. It will be a lot like the 402 LS2 except 25 more cubes. That combo made 488 rwhp and 475 rwtq. I will never make as much power as the guys with the LS9s, but I will have better front weight for quick handling like at an autox. Normally I wouldn't bother with more power but the car seems happy with the amount I have now and should be able to handle more.

I realised this at the 0-60-0 event where, even though I mashed the gas, the car just squatted down and went.. no long burn out.. no drama. Figured I could suck up another 50-60 ft-lbs and still put it to good use. Redline should be right at 7,000 rpm.

Kendall Burleson 12-05-2009 11:36 PM

With the bigger engine your car should handle power with no promblem how often will it see 7000 rpm on a autocross?

mexMan 12-06-2009 09:17 AM

I really like your setup, but in MY personal opinion, I think you could try using lower gears for acceleration, even though I don't know what your gears ratio is, and a bit more power never hurts, for example, 450 or 550 HP is never a bad idea, and less for a Camaro like yours, I bet Penny would be 7 times happier if you passed the 500HP line.

Oh Steve, before I forget, I was thinking you could tattoo Penny, now that'd make her a lot ''badder'' than what she is now, the Bad Penny logo should be somewhere around the car, don't you think?

Steve1968LS2 12-06-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mexMan (Post 252826)
I really like your setup, but in MY personal opinion, I think you could try using lower gears for acceleration, even though I don't know what your gears ratio is, and a bit more power never hurts, for example, 450 or 550 HP is never a bad idea, and less for a Camaro like yours, I bet Penny would be 7 times happier if you passed the 500HP line.

Oh Steve, before I forget, I was thinking you could tattoo Penny, now that'd make her a lot ''badder'' than what she is now, the Bad Penny logo should be somewhere around the car, don't you think?

I have a 2.66 first gear with 3.89 rear gears.. The car just gets going fast off the line. I'm shooting for 525ish rwhp and over 500 rwtq but I want it to come on down low and stay around in the mid range. Having more power than the car can handle putting down is pointless, but we feel Penny can handle just a bit more and have it be useful.

Now if I was just building for the road course I would build a blown LS engine and shoot for 700 rwhp.. but I'm trying for a balance between autocross and road course. Generally if a car beats me in one it won't beat me in the other.. generally.. lol

I like the exterior simple.. although I really liked the matt black hashmarks. The logo is on the battery tray and in the engine bay. I'm saving the exterior tatoo for Track Rat.

Her's how she sits right now.. hopefully we can have the drivetrain out and front end off by Christmas. Scraping off the old undercoating is going to be a royal PITA, but worth it in the end.

http://i49.tinypic.com/8yi4id.jpg

olds87 12-06-2009 11:10 AM

What are you going to do with old engine? Going to sell it?

nvr2fst 12-06-2009 11:13 AM

Ha Steve, you have a sickness. Will it ever stop, most likely not.
Well all thats left now is for body mods. Oh crap thats what track rat is for.
Great decision on the motor. I thought a while back ago you were leaning towards the LS7 what changed your mind.
Dave

70rs 12-06-2009 11:14 AM

Great list of improvements going on. I am looking forward to seeing it all together.

Wat is going to happen to the LS2 in her right now? Another project?

Matt@BOS 12-06-2009 11:35 AM

I love how your projects snowball. You are getting a new radiator and support, engine, fixing up the rear end, and modding the inner fenders all because you originally wanted to redo the undercoating, right?

Matt

David Pozzi 12-06-2009 12:19 PM

Steve,
Your plan looks good! :thumbsup:
I think the improved rear shock travel really brought Penny into a new era of even better handling. Keep track of the present rear bar setting. I think it was in the 3rd hole? This setting is VERY well balanced on the road course. Should work great for normal autocrossing but we may have to stiffen 1 hole for the Goodguys type events that are so tight. Hopefully we won't need to.

David

monza 12-06-2009 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 (Post 252839)
Scraping off the old undercoating is going to be a royal PITA, but worth it in the end.

What are you putting under there?, Something easier to keep clean, pretty and show quality? Can't imagine you'd even have many scuffs or rock chips underneath yet?

Love the changes. I really wish you weren't adding that extra horse power... :captain:


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