Jon;I missed your last post.Really looking great.You are doing an awesome job.I used the same rod ends,but mine have a 3/4 shank w/ 5/8 hole.They are still noisey.But if you use some dyna type mat sound deadener & carpeting I bet you wont notice it.Good luck and keep the photo's coming.Scott:thumbsup:

Thanks Scott, thanks for the tips on welding the tube adapters, my Dad got the links welded up today while I was at work, and they look good. I took some pictures but it was dark and the pictures suck.

The rod ends I got are 5/8 bolt and shank, now since you said yours have a 3/4 shank I am getting worried mine are a little on the small side. When we measured the links we made sure we had just enough adjust ability but with as much of the rod end threaded in the tube.

I just found the rod ends like yours, the ultimate radial static load capacity is 40,500 lbs, the rating on mine are about 18,000 lbs. that's a big difference.

Thanks,
Jon

Jon; go ahead and use the 5/8-5/8 rod ends. Just keep an eye on the 5/8 treaded ends. You can always change them later if you need too.Unless you are going to really thrash on the car super hard I don't think it will ever be an issue. And the upper link w/ be the one that will get most of the work.If you have street tires on the car they should lose grip before the rod ends fail.Keep up the great work.Scott

Jon; hows the fab work coming along on your javelin.I am really liking what you are doing.Scott.

Hey Scott, how's it going? Any new projects going on? How's the camaro running?

It has been going pretty slow the last few weeks, but we are working on it this weekend. I bought a pro-tools tubing bender from a lady that didn't need it any more, it came with a 1.25" and 1.625" die. Had to put a post in the ground outside so we could use it, all I need to do is get a 1.75" die.

The goal for tomorrow is to plate the insides of the rear frame rails, install the panhard bar/fuel cell cross member, place/tach the axle side panhard bracket and caliper brackets, and cut more unneeded sheet metal out.


If all goes well, I want to order the wheels and tires some time next month and see what this thing is going to look like on the ground. Right now I am looking at some CCW Classics with 275's up front and 315's in the rear. I would really like to put some forgeline ZX3R's but their a little out of the budget. I also can't decide if I want 17's or move up to 18's, I am leaning towards the 17's though.

I will give an update tomorrow along with some pictures to show where we are at.

Thanks,
Jon

You know Jon some vintage wheel works V-45'sOR V-48's would look really good on your AMC.They are now building 18's.Keep me posted.Thank's Scott

Jon,

get some new pics posted, I need a fix! :D

Got some pictures for you guys but, it's not much.
http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/28...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb08.webshots.com/28...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/32...600x600Q85.jpg

I just realized that I don't have a good overall pictures of the 3 link in the car, so when I get the rest of the sheet metal cut out, I can post up a good picture of every thing.

Most of the brackets are done on the rear end, just have to add the sway bar mounts and bracing. I don't want to fully weld every thing together until I get every thing assembled and make sure every thing clears.

I wanted to put the calipers on the rear of the axle but it interfered with my panhard bar bracket, so I had to move them to the front. Since they are differential bore calipers, I can't swap them side to side to get the bleeder screws on top. I will have to swap the bleeder screws and the crossover tube around, but that shouldn't be a big deal.

Thanks,
Jon

Jon look's awesome.:thumbsup: Can't wait to see more.Doing a great job.It's cool that I was able to be part of this project.Scott.

JON; any more updates.Just want to know how you are coming along.Scott.

Hey Scott, we got a couple things done, as we only worked on it Monday. We got the plates welded on the inside of the frame rails, cut and welded in the cross member that will hold the front of the fuel cell and support a sway bar in the future. We also got the chassis side panhard bar mount made and welded in the car.

http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/33...600x600Q85.jpg
Yes, the chassis side panhard bar is a little off plum, but it is fixed now, lol.

http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/46...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/12...600x600Q85.jpg


We still have to make the upper shock cross member, but that will have to wait till the roll bar gets put in. Besides that some extra bracing and fully weld all the brackets to the axle, the rear suspension is done.

I think the next thing we are going to tackle, is mini tubing the rear and notching the frame rails. I will be running a 315 tire, There is no way I will be able to fit a 335 back there, but I think a 315 is big enough.

Thanks,
Jon

Jon; Looking awesome.Watching the progress on your project and a few other's gets in the mood to work on my project.This is really going to be a neat car when you are finished.:thumbsup:

Thanks Scott. Yeah, its fun to watch the other builds come along. Plus, I learn a lot of stuff just by watching the other projects, there is always more than one way to build something and it is always cool to see what other people come up with to meet a certain goal.

So Scott, what is your new project? Still trying to find a 2nd gen Camaro, or have you found something else?

My goal is to get this car on its wheels and tires by the end of October, but that all depends on what wheels I end up buying and if I get them in time, but we will see.

Thanks,
Jon

Jon; I will email you some photo's.Scott

Jon, looking good. can't wait to see it back on the ground. what wheels are you considering?

Cool Scott, can't wait to see the pictures.

Hey Asif, I can't wait either. Can't wait to get it going, and try to catch some track days with you. As for wheels I am looking a some CCW Classics in 18x9.5 and 18x11 with either a Titanium center or a black center with polished lips. But now that I have seen the NewGen 3pc Lites, I don't know.

Thanks,
Jon

Subscribing to a cool build! did you choose your wheels? What was your measurements from inside wheel lip to inside wheel lip?

Jon those newgen III Lites are cool and would bad a&& on your car.:thumbsup:

I don't have that measurement yet as I don't have the fenders on, but when I do, I will measure it out.


I haven't decided on the wheels yet, but I am thinking about getting the Forgeline ZX3R's in 18's, they are a little bit pricey for me, but I really like those wheels. My thinking is, I should spend the extra money now and buy the wheels that I really like, instead of getting wheels the I sorta like and regretting it later.

The Newgen lites are really nice too, but the price is way out of my budget.

Hey Scott, wheres those pictures at, I haven't seen them yet!



We started the mini tubbing process last weekend, we cut out half of the old inner fender out, figured out how much we had to notch out of the frame. Instead of using the old inner fender we decided to make some sheet metal inner's to gain a little bit more room at the top and the out sides of the tubs. Here is some pictures of what we got started on.

http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/46...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/45...600x600Q85.jpg

Thanks,
Jon

Jon, If sell my blue 69 I am thinking of forglines zx3 also w/hidden hardware for new camaro.Sorry forgot about the photo's,will try and send those tonight

jon cant find your email drop me a line at [email protected]. Scott

Jon any update's.Had a few guys see your project and call wanting a clip like your's,Thank's Scott.:thumbsup:

I haven't done any thing with the car, I have been working weekends and nights so I'm all screwed up, lol. We are going to get back on it this weekend, I ordered a 1.75" die for the tubing bender last week that I should be getting on Wednesday.

Lately, I have been really thinking about wheels and after a few emails I think I am going to go with Forgeline zx3r in 17x10 and 17x11 with 275/40 and 315/35 nitto NT05 for the street and later on Toyo R888's in the same size for racing around.

My reasons for picking the 17's over the 18's is:
1 - found out I could run BIG brakes in them
2 - more available street performance (200 treadware min) and R compound street tires in the sizes I need
3 - tires are a lot cheaper
4 - I think the smaller diameter of the wheel a tire will look better in the car.


I saw your thread on the 72 Camaro Scott, it's looking good. Can not wait to see more updates on it. Damn, 315's in front again, man your crazy, lol.

Thanks,
Jon

hey Jon,

I support your decision to go 17s :thumbsup: IMO anything bigger would look out of place on the early Javelins...

I'm dying over here. when are you coming to the track with me? get that thing done :lol:

My thoughts exactly.

Trust me, I can't wait either, lol. I have been working my but off this week. I will get started working of the car again this weekend, hopefully pick up some material to start the roll bar. Will see how much "garage art" I will come up with lol. My Dad will finish welding up the left frame so we can start building the inner tub.

Oh, by the way Asif, I saw the roll cage pictures of your AI Javelin, looks great. You got to send me some info on the 3 link your building, got me interested. Also, have you bought your rear brakes yet?

Thanks,
Jon

hey Jon,

I'll post some info/pics on the 3 link once it's done. nothings happened yet but they claim it should be done maybe the end of next week... as for the rear brakes I ordered them at the same time I ordered the ford 9". Wilwood 11.5 inch rotors with 4 piston calipers. here's a pic:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_VGa1vkndYXc/TL...c/103_4048.JPG

Cool, looks good Asif.

I haven't done any thing on the car yet, with the rain and I was sick over the weekend. But this weekend I will get some thing done. We are taking my Dad's chevelle to get it on the dyno saturday, I'm predicting around 450 to 460 rwhp.

Thanks,
Jon

Jon,who has giving you the best price on those forgeline wheels.

oops, edited the above post. they're 4 piston calipers, not 2 piston...

Hey, Scott, I will be getting the wheels from prodigy customs, he has been taking the time to answer all my questions so it's time to pay him back.


Asif, I thought those were 4 piston, right now I am trying to sell a set of those calipers and 12.19 gt rotors, that's why I asked. Also are your rear rotors .810, or 1.25" thick?

Thanks,
Jon

rears are .81 fronts will be 1.25

Small update! My Dad and I got the left rear tub made and fitted, all we have to do is make some small filler pieces and weld it in. We should get this side done by next Sunday.

We have never done a mini tub job before, so we got to try out a few new tools we picked up like the bead roller, hole punch and found out how awesome clecos are! So the right side should move along a lot faster since we have a template now and have a plan on whats happening.

I got a set of Forgeline ZX3R wheels on lay away, I just have to finalize my color choice (thinking satin black or maybe a satin bronze center and polished lips) and get some backspace numbers to Frank at Prodigy Customs. Going to order a set of tires tomorrow (Nitto NT05's) to help with fitment, now I just have to mock up the front suspension and fenders to get an accurate measurement.

Here is some pics:
http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/45...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/43...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/93...600x600Q85.jpg

Thanks,
Jon

awesome, looks great! I love clecos too :thumbsup:

Thanks man, how's the AI Project going?

Thanks,
Jon

That's great stuff, I wouldn't do anything different.:thumbsup:
I sooo want to start another Javelin project, I just don't have the time and cash right now.:mad: Plus I want to get my current car where I want it before I get another project going.
I will be ordering G-Force internals for my Auto-to-T5 swap in the next week or two and I dropped off my 401 with the engine builder to get that started.:D

Thanks Mike, your car is looking good, and I really like the hood. That 401 and the T5 will really make that car fun to drive. What kinda horsepower you looking to get out of the 401?

Thanks,
Jon

Thanks! It's been another fun summer with it.
The goal is 450-500 HP with very good street maners. This will pretty much max out the capabilities of G-Force T5.
For the block I am going to stick with the basic stock forged internals, about 10.5:1 CR, and a custom roadrace pan with an external oil pickup line.
The only spendy part will be the Edelbrock heads with some bucks spent on porting and shorty headers (eventually some long-tube custom headers too).

Sounds like a great plan Mike, should be a lot of fun.

Well a small update, We got the tub fully welded in, I got my new tires in decided to go with some 275/40/17 and 315/35r17 Toyo R888's. I got most of my wheel measurements now, just waiting for a conformation that the backspacing I need will clear the brakes, then they can start making them.

Here is a few pictures:
http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/62...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/46...600x600Q85.jpg

Front wheel will be 9.5" wide with a 6.25" backspace pending it will clear 14" Baer 6S brake kit. The back will be 11" wide with 6.9" backspace. This makes the front track width 1" wider overall than the rear.

Thanks,
Jon

Bad@$$ build

Jon lookin real good. Can't wait too see it with the wheels.Scott