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novanutcase 04-20-2010 02:12 PM

Hope your friends with the BFG sales manager!!!:wow:

John

GregWeld 04-20-2010 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 283384)
Just to get this straight for a certain person on this forum.
Are you shooting for 8's or 8.99's?


THANK YOU! :rofl:

There's "EIGHTS" and then there is "IN TO THE EIGHTS"... :thumbsup: :D

Frank.... killer build!

It would have saved you some time to start with one of those offshore bodies... ya think? Man - you just don't see cars like that around here... I guess the grass grows too tall.

GregWeld 04-20-2010 02:28 PM

I was kind of afraid that body might fall off the cart! :rofl:

HRBS 04-20-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 283384)
Are you shooting for 8's or 8.99's?

When its a multi-purpose car whats the difference? LOL.
Our "all race" car weighs 3000lbs with driver and runs low 9.30's at 144mph. (1/4). This by no means is a streetable car. Its a purpose built drag car.
I think to do all they (John and Frank) plan to do with the car and manage to dip into the 8's even if it is "only" 8.99 is way more than impressive !
Nice build guys !

GregWeld 04-20-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRBS (Post 283427)
When its a multi-purpose car whats the difference? LOL.
Our "all race" car weighs 3000lbs with driver and runs low 9.30's at 144mph. (1/4). This by no means is a streetable car. Its a purpose built drag car.
I think to do all they (John and Frank) plan to do with the car and manage to dip into the 8's even if it is "only" 8.99 is way more than impressive !
Nice build guys !

I think he was making an inside joke -- we've all had that argument already - about calling a car that did 8.99 an "eight second car"... I lost that argument - but only to those against me (everyone -- LOL).

nvr2fst 04-20-2010 03:00 PM

John/Frank, One heck of a supercar project. At 22lbs on race gas you should be able to get the wheelie bars to "click". Looks like you boys will be extremely busy thrashing

HRBS 04-20-2010 03:03 PM

I hear you greg..... i kind of thought that. thats why i put the "LOL".
As for the inside joke... i think its a sense of pride than anything.
You can bet you A$$ when our car dips to a 8.99 I'll be braggin that its an "eight second car" also... :lol:
But to autocross etc then make a suspension tune and be able to run 8.99 is gonna be a fun car to watch evolve.

skatinjay27 04-20-2010 04:00 PM

LMFAO at the 8.99 comment!!!

waynieZ 04-20-2010 04:17 PM

This will be a fun build to watch.

Greg from Aus 04-20-2010 04:26 PM

Glad to see you finally came out of the closet Frank, Its been killing me too.

Van B 04-20-2010 08:58 PM

Thanks guys. This will be a fun one to follow.

Vegas69 04-20-2010 09:42 PM

Frank, that's a pretty bold claim in comparison to that first picture. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Flash68 04-20-2010 10:33 PM

Wow. That's all I got for now. :D

Jr 04-20-2010 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProdigyCustoms (Post 283371)
There is such a thing as TOO BIG. the Big BIG one would get lazy down low. but if you have a offshore race boat running at 6000RPMs all the time..............

Kenne Bell made close to 1500HP on a 5.4 Ford with the 3.6!

One thing I love about Kenne bell is the ice cold inlet air temps. We have one on Patricks 68 Camaro with a bone stock LS1, cam and 2.6 blower. It makes 535HP at the tires. And Patrick is my buddy but the man does not need a throttle, he needs a idle / wide open switch! It is all or nothing for Patrick!

And that thing has been running a few years, raced hard and put up wet, and is still running strong. And I attribute that to cool IATs

And the torque is AWESOME!

Frank,
Did the people at Kenne bell share the IAT numbers of that 5.4L making 1500HP?

ProdigyCustoms 04-20-2010 11:37 PM

No, but the cooler lines run though the blower.

ProdigyCustoms 04-20-2010 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 283536)
Frank, that's a pretty bold claim in comparison to that first picture. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It looks a little different now!

evilzee28 04-21-2010 02:05 AM

Hi Frank, will you be posting up a build thread on here as well in "real time" or maybe a video like the one you did before?? Or is it just going to be in the magazines??

cheers...Nige

d touring 04-21-2010 06:03 AM

I think this is just to cool! Really like the ideas.:thumbsup:

Will a suspension like the one in this car be for sale at some point?:unibrow:

ProdigyCustoms 04-21-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilzee28 (Post 283549)
Hi Frank, will you be posting up a build thread on here as well in "real time" or maybe a video like the one you did before?? Or is it just going to be in the magazines??

cheers...Nige


I have to be careful what I put out here and when I put it out here. The magazine believes in the project and gave us a lot of valuable pages, and while their circulation is 10 times the members here. We would all like for you to subscribe to the magazine.

So I can show some things here and there, you guys will know about things before they print. But I cannot post the entire install feature.

ProdigyCustoms 04-21-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d touring (Post 283554)
I think this is just to cool! Really like the ideas.:thumbsup:

Will a suspension like the one in this car be for sale at some point?:unibrow:


Yes sir, Right now we are doing the test fit into the body, working out the ahh ****s, and working on pricing.

We should be posting some pics by the weekend.

parsonsj 04-21-2010 02:29 PM

Hey all, yes, this looks to be a bit of a wild ride. To say the least. :)

I need to mention my consulting group, a set of engineers that have been and will continue to advise Frank and me as the build continues.

They are:

John Ulaszek, an ME, and an expert in lightweight materials and bolted joints,
Don Elliott, an ME, and the forced induction engineer for the Ford GT,
Glenn Estelle, an ME, and an expert in FEA analysis
Pete Visser, an ME, and an expert in electronic fuel injection.

And finally, Mike Norris. There is no truth to the rumor that Mike moved to Indiana to avoid having to help on this project. :cheers:

jp

Romulus 04-21-2010 03:00 PM

do you have any pictures of the passenger side of the body? I could almost - but not quite - see it via the driver's side. :willy: /sarcasm

This might be just enough of an excuse to run up the turnpike and ask some questions in person for a change. Wicked.

-R

ProdigyCustoms 04-21-2010 03:20 PM

The story about buying the car was great. Straight from Joe Dirt's Uncles collection at a trailer on a dirt road! You can see his collection of cars. In his area you wealth is determined by the amount of junk muscle cars in your yard. Sad part is I think is neihbor was even more rich!

Under a tarp, out of a picture, I could tell was a Elcamino with a wing, and BIG wing of the back. So I had to ask.

Me: So what's under the cover?

Dirt's Uncle: Thats my Pro Mod!

Me: Can we see it?

Off comes the tarp and under the cover is the most hideous piece of **** you have ever seen. 3 colors of primer, and the wing was made of 1/4" and 1/8" steel, still raw and rusting through! Monster 15" MT tire on some welded up widen 15" Rallies. Junk yard 350, smog heads, tunnel ram and a couple 850s!

So I had to ask.

Me: Ever run it?

Dirt's Uncle: Only once! When I got to half track I was going so fast they was waving me to slow down and I coasted through at 8 seconds flat!

The race track must have been 50 feet long, LOL!

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSC_0769.jpg
Here is your passenger side shot.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSC_0757.jpg
Remember we wanted a car that needed floors.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...ProudOwner.jpg
And Michael giving the thumbs up in Dirt's backyard!

96z28ss 04-21-2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSC_0769.jpg
Here is your passenger side shot.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSC_0757.jpg
Remember we wanted a car that needed floors.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...ProudOwner.jpg
And Michael giving the thumbs up in Dirt's backyard!
So your not planing on taking that to the media blaster right, cause I don't think there would be much left.
Seems like an awful lot of work to get to the point where it will look like a 69 camaro. Why not start with something better

Reckley 04-21-2010 03:55 PM

So you pretty much just bought yourself a 69 camaro VIN....LOL

Romulus 04-21-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 283662)
So your not planing on taking that to the media blaster right, cause I don't think there would be much left.
Seems like an awful lot of work to get to the point where it will look like a 69 camaro. Why not start with something better

It's the principal of the thing..... and makes for great advertising and bragging rights.... and it's one more Camaro saved from that rust pit. :thumbsup:

NOT A TA 04-21-2010 04:01 PM

AWESOME POST Frank! Made my day!

XLexusTech 04-21-2010 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonner (Post 283452)
Glad to see you finally came out of the closet Frank, Its been killing me too.

What are you trying to say :thumbsup: LOL

Cant wait to see this build and write ups

awr68 04-21-2010 05:23 PM

Cool project and outline!
And nice work Carter!! :thumbsup:

BuiltByBrooks 04-21-2010 06:00 PM

^x2, like the color choice also

bigtyme1 04-21-2010 06:33 PM

I completely missed this one frank, been so busy running around in circles with nothing to do. Keep us posted.

98ssnova 04-21-2010 07:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonner
Glad to see you finally came out of the closet Frank, Its been killing me too.

What are you trying to say LOL

Cant wait to see this build and write ups


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Nice

ProdigyCustoms 04-21-2010 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 283662)
So your not planing on taking that to the media blaster right, cause I don't think there would be much left.
Seems like an awful lot of work to get to the point where it will look like a 69 camaro. Why not start with something better


Well, here is the deal.

(1) Just about every 69 Camaro needs quarters and rear filler.

(2) We are running a full wheel tub so the outer and inner wheelhouses will all be replaced

(3) We are building a notched firewall for engine set back so firewal was un important

(4) Very important, we planned to put a full front and rear floor in raised 1 1/2", this is a very important part of the plan, so why ruin a good floor car. .

(5) We want to extend the rockers 1" to give it a even lower look.

(6), We have a body jig, so this is easy.

(7) and most important, we are showing anything can be fixed

Now if you look closely, the rockers are not horrible however we did do inner rocker and will extend the outers. So we did not want to pay for good rockers.

The floor was horrible, easier to remove, all new raised floor is in.

Almost every car we do gets quarters, and these were less to trim.

The inner struture needed some patches after sandblasting but Michael and I did all the inner structure patch work in a hard weekend.

See, the sheetmetal is routine for us, we have a jig, so it goes pretty fast. No sense buying a car with good floors (did that) when they are getting cut out anyway. Might as well limit our up front cost.

Blake Foster 04-21-2010 08:10 PM

Remember we wanted a car that needed floors.

First objective acheived!!! :lol:

elitecustombody 04-21-2010 08:21 PM

Great save,Frank, :thumbsup: when are we gonna see the build pics?

ProdigyCustoms 04-21-2010 08:39 PM

This won't be out first miracle. We love saving these things. Love the rags to Riches story on these cars. And it is a great way to show what we can do. makes a great conversation piece!

This...............

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...oms/begin7.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/begin5-1.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/begin6-1.jpg

Became this............

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSC_0269.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSC_0250.jpg

And this...............

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...irebird027.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSC_0912.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSC_0001.jpg

Became this...............

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSC_1048.jpg

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...s/DSC_1073.jpg

tyoneal 04-22-2010 04:19 AM

Frank:

I'm very proud for you. It take a big set of Balls for setting the bar that high. My hat is off for you two.

A couple of questions I have:

Will you be running the Wheelie Bars while your blowing people off the Auto Cross, and Road tracks?

Will what we see in the picture look exactly like your car when you:

A) Finish?

B) Run each of the events? (Auto X, Road Race, Drag Race)

So what we see is what you will be running?

----------------------------------------------------------------

Yes, I am very curious, and I think your rendering is Terrific!

I look forward to watching and hearing how it comes together.

I'd wish you luck, but I don't think you will need it. You have always put out fine cars.

Thanks for sharing this build, and yes, I will be taking another magazine in the near future.

Ty O'Neal

BTW: When will the ABS Kit be available?

1) This is something you should make available to all of us as soon as possible to help finance your build.

2) It's for the Children ;-)

Seriously, I would be interested, and if I would need certain products, I don't want to have to buy anything twice to put you system on my car.

Take care,

Ty

DOOM 04-22-2010 04:42 AM

Love bringing them back from the dead Frank! Why take the easy way out...:D

CraigMorrison 04-22-2010 05:58 AM

It looks like the only thing that wasn't rusty was the title. Looking forward to seeing how our idea works out on the rear......

mild2wild 04-22-2010 06:17 AM

I saw this soon to be monster first hand in January and had to keep it under wraps til now. If anyone can pull this thing off, it's Frank and company. Let me know Frank when you're coming up to Wegner for dyno time.


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