SW --

You and I might not worry about resale values -- but the average guy does.

I disliked driving mine enough that I was HAPPY to only take a 40 grand hit after 3 or 4 months of driving it. Every time I got in it - it pissed me off... and I can more than afford to not have to live with that. It hit the road - and I was happy.

Yes - the BMW quality might be slightly better overall... but it's not twice as good overall. My buddy has a new one - his second - and I was very impressed with the door slam (thud) and the overall fit and finish... but then I also looked at it as a Cadillac, with that last syllable being my "thought" of their products...

I made a mistake not buying the 6 speed transmission. I most likely would have liked the car a little better... BUT (big butt) I'd crawl out of the M5 and into our 650i drop top car - and the power (we're talking seat of the pants feel here) just driving around - was night and day. And that REALLY pissed me off... and of course - I have a wife that would nip at my heels with that little bit of info... :lol:

In the end - the CTS-V is a bunch of car - more fun to drive in NORMAL driving... and if I had to choose a "work" car daily driver - I'd certainly be looking at it as a value for the $. Get in drive it - no need to have to spend 11 grand for header$.... :rofl:

And - if you compare the M5/M6 against the AMG E63 - which comes with nasty snarly exhaust right out of the box... and the torque is just huge... then it's no contest. But now we're adding a whole 'nother car to the mix. But if I was needing 4 doors - big trunk - comfort - and a bit of grunt... the M cars would NOT be in the hunt. And you can buy a his and hers Caddy for the price of the E63... but I'd still take the E63 because I can. The OP (Todd) still has to make a living... and haul clients... and Kelli... If I was him - I'd be like my daddy - and driving a caddy. :rofl:

SW --

I hope Hennessey has turned the quality corner... because his reputation was not looking like a good dyno chart should... the curve was inverted. :rofl:

..... and yes.... I'd like to own one or two of your spare cars... :rofl: :cheers:

Ya, I still can't get over the Grandpa stigma no matter how hard I try. Now I'm thinking about just keeping my 08 550i Sport. Ask me tomorrow and you'll get a new answer. :unibrow: :rolleyes:

Todd --

I was stopped by the CHP just west of the AriDzona border on I-10 for 104 MPH... in a BEIGE BUICK rental car...

The nice young CHP man took my license and did the usual check - came back to the passenger window (where my wife was) and said... "take it easy will ya!"...

My thought about this was -- it was getting toward the end of the shift - and he didn't want to hassle with an arrest... AND he was dying to get on the radio and tell his buddies what he'd just witnessed.... i.e., "Guys - you won't believe this.... I just stopped a BIEGE BUICK doing 104!!" They're probably still talking about it.

My point -- Caddys and Buicks... and Pontiacs... they're what my aunts drive. :woot: :rofl:

I wonder if he bought or leased his? ;)

Skip -- Either way -- I think he was one of the PAID test drivers for GM...

Didn't listen to the video before posting this -- but that's what I remember... when they were flogging the BMW M5 and the CTS-V... ??

It's a bunch of car for the buck... there's no doubt about that.

I'm thinking he gets one FREE....

Todd --

Your Grandma is going to lease one and then come hunt your sorry azz down and give you a big ol' Cadillac can of whoop ass! :rofl:

That Camaro gets 666hp.......That's the DEVIL car now!!

He retired from GM in the fall of 2008. Would have been a nice parting gift. ;)

I'm diggin it except when I have to say it after a few beers. :rofl:

Don't bring a E63 into the mix, I had one.. for 2 weeks and sold it. Mercedes just do not handle at all. Their transmissions are slush boxes. I guess I like the M cars because they are fun to drive and handle..

Btw, you might change your mind if you rode in my Dinan 5.7 M5, 640hp @8000 rpm.. the sound and feel is unreal. After driving my 1500hp Lamborghini, I still look forward to driving my M5..

SW

SW -- That's funny...

You and I must think alike... I buy a car - if I don't like it - it's GONE...

I agree with you that the M's handle better - and the trannies (automatics) are far better programmed. My M had the SMG -- and that with the complete lack of bottom end is what killed it for me. But the car had the best seats I've ever owned - the 20 pos. Multi whatever they're called... LOVED THEM.

I do like the E63 exhaust note... and the bottom end is eeeeeeehhhhhhhaaaa for around town. That was another thing that killed me about the M - it sounded like a wheezing Honda with a garbage can muffler... just nasty. Guess I like the big V8 rumble over the buzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... We have to remember what TODD (the OP here) is looking for -- a client car - fun to drive but "more doors" - haul all the cute little Vegas girls around town all day... and we can't forget that part... 'cause it's what HE NEEDS that we're debating...

I love the insight this thread has... 'cause we're all looking for the right answer... and most guys don't get a chance to blow a car off if it's a big mistake... they're stuck with their decision - good, bad, or indifferent.

Thanks for looking out for my best interest Greg. You're the father I'm glad I never had, I mean.... ;) You're right though, I'm stuck for 3 years if I go Caddy since I'd lease it instead of buy. I'm not running around near the volume I used to do to concentrating on the listing side of the business and having a buyers agent but it's still important.

SW, Weld probably never got that M5 out of first gear on the way to the grocery store. :D

OKAY --- TODD --- just looking out for you buddy! I found YOUR next customer battle wagon.......

EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cadil...ht_1580wt_1167

Nice amount of track footage in the vid shows the handling capability of this beast. IMO its nice to have the 6 speed manny trans option, (light duty) off-road abilities, decent towing capacity and lots of utility all in one package.

NOW THAT,....is a nice car! :thumbsup:
I can only imagine the price tag!!!:wow: :willy:

Tones -- BUY IT NOW PRICE was shown as a tick under 83 GRAND -- USED...

That's nuthin' for a roller like Todd...

:rofl: :rofl: I could live off your interest.

Here are some more to drool over!!:wow: :yes:

My daily driver is a 2009 CTS-V. I honestly enjoy driving this car just as much as my 2009 Z06. While it isn't as fast as the Z, I consider it a better car. It does everything well, and can easily hurt some feelings on the highway.

As for "grandpa" status, I don't remember any Cadillacs that looked grandpa like mine does. Lowered on D3 springs, and rolling on HRE 20" wheels.

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SW, I'd run my little Caddy against your stroked M5 ;)

Tony

If you are wondering what a certain make or model drives, feels, looks like..ask Tony. He has owned or driven everything under the sun.

Diggin the Caddi Tony!

I'm really digging the CTS-V's. Awesome cars in my opinion. Won't do much good in the Northeast without a second beater car for the winter.:mad:
As are all your rides Tony, the CTS-V looks great!:thumbsup:

Here's a curve ball for you guys. I bought a 2010 Audi S4 yesterday. I've been a BMW guy for 6 years. This car has me hooked on driving like I've never been before. It's so damn fun and refined. 0-60 in under 5 seconds with all wheel drive and pulls down 18/27 mpg. Interior is top notch and all the gadgets are really bitchin. The sound system is unreal in this thing. I didn't know the car existed 4 days ago. I went over and test drove it and drove it home. :lol:
It's Meteor Gray.
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Nice car Todd! Congrats. I'm an Audi fan as well. The S line is a great Audi line. I LOVE the Audi A4's!! The RS's are VERY NICE! (a bit out of my price range, but very nice!)
Congrats and good luck with it!!:thumbsup: :cheers:

I have also recently been converted to an AUDI fan. We bought an '06 A4 2T as her daily driver and after using that car for a year I am seriously considering a future upgrade to a better faster AUDI like the S4.

I just changed the oil in her car last night for the first time and got a good look under the car, and wow is it.... um... unique.:wow:

Oh, and these things are unstopable in the snow for those that live in such an environment:P

I test drove one -- nice car. I rejected it because the backseat is too small for what I wanted otherwise I'd have bought one. You're right - very well engineered and was fun to drive. Too bad they don't make the A8 anymore for the US market.

The back seat is marginal but it's workable. I could've leased the 11 535i just as cheap but the styling really doesn't float my boat. The CTS-V was also in the same payment territory but Kelli will be driving it part time and her school is a hike. I think it's a really good economical decision. It's really a niche market for Audi. I'm super impressed with the car so far.:thumbsup: You can just punch it around a corner and it just sucks you around it with no slippage. This car is hard to beat stop light to stop light. The power is bias 40% front and 60% back and it can adjust that as well. Mine has the performance differential similar to the true trac in the camaro. It sends up to 70% of the torque to the traction wheel.

Very nice car Todd :thumbsup:

That is exactly what my wife wants but I told her I didn't think the S4 came in an auto. Hopefully she doesn't see this picture :_paranoid

It's not really an auto. It's a dual clutch thingy magigy that the computer controls. The computer matches rpms on every shift. It's really seamless though. I just got back from lunch and flat footed it from a stop light. Just hooks and goes like hell.:thumbsup: I wouldn't go take it for a drive. It's that good.

nice Todd i have a friend that has a S6 i think two door coupe very cool ride

Todd........................ Thats not a CTS-V!:_paranoid Man I thought we were on the same page...:cool:

Honestly, I wasn't that interested until I drove the car. I never thought I'd own an Audi. I've never been thrilled with the looks of their cars. This is the best car I've ever driven. Quick, nimble, efficient, killer sound, just a great daily driver in the concrete jungle I surround myself with. I've got my 666hp rocket in the garage. I couldn't be happier with my decision at this point.

Nice car Todd! So that's what you will be picking me up in at the airport this year? :D

It was going to be the Camaro but...:lol:

Audi S4 is a very well built car. Driving experience is different with the AWD. I bought my wife a '10 Audi S5, it is a very nice car. Interior is top-notch, very modern looking.

But it is still no CTS-V. Not even close. Lisa is even bored with her S5 after driving the Caddy, wants me to sell her car and give the CTS-V to her as a daily driver.

Not a chance :)

I'm just not a huge fan of Cadillac styling. Not crazy about BMW or Audi styling either to be honest. The traffic here gets worse everyday. This car is perfect to playing traffic frogger. Maybe I'll do the CTS-V next time when they redesign it. I drove it and like it, the deal was right, so I took it home.:unibrow:

Actually that would be even better!! :yes: