Nice find, now you have a good starting point. Keep us posted.

Impressed with the moving of the new shell. It's looking really good! Keep posting the progress.

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Pmed you. LMK

Thanks guys. Im gearing up to order undercoating and get a welder to finish what is needed. I also plan on starting to hang the rear and front subframe this weekend. Then after all that it will be preping the car and paint. Hopeing to have this all done by the start of spring. Well see..:thumbsup:

Smart move spending the $$$ for the completed shell. Much better than doing panel replacement on the old one. :thumbsup:

Yep. In the long run im sure it was well worth it. Now I need bigger wheels and tires.:bow: btw love what your doing with your car:thumbsup:

So I worked on the car this weekend. Figured out the subframe assembly and speedtech solid mounts. I also have polyurethane mounts but figured if I don't like the solid mounts I can always switch them out. The undercoating should be here tomorrow. So hopefully that will start soon. I also stripped and painted the U bolts for the rear assembly and received the brackets I need to start putting the rear together. Hopefully the assembly of that will start tomorrow night after work. More updates to cone soon.

Two questions for you guys.

1. How does moser know the angle that would be needed for the 4 link set up? I know they have a jig but wouldn't ever car be different?

2. I have to weld in the upper support for the dash. Anyone know where I can see some info on this..? Measurements? Ect..?

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So finished test fitting the rear yesterday night to make sure everything is good in that area. The upper brackets will need to be welded to the rear but from what im told I wont be able to find that angle untill I have a motor and trans so that will have to wait for now. Im picking up the undercoating tonight and hoping to start that this weekend. Everything will be removed from the car and the whole underside, trunk and interior floor/firewall will be done. More pictures and updates to come soon. Also I think eventually Ill need some bigger wheels and tires all around. Mainly in the rear. My 17x9 w/ 275/45 are just lost in those tubs. Any one have something that will fit better for the right price..? Heres some pictures..


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Car is coming along great. Looks good.
Keep up the good work.:thumbsup:

Merry Christmas everyone.!! My wife really suprised me with this wonderful gift and they where supposly out of stock. Big thanks to anvil for the great service and fast shipping.

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In other news I am looking for a decent set of fenders and am going to start putting it all together for test fitting..then the body work will start. Hoping the updates will come often when that starts. Hope everyone has a merry Christmas

Nice Christmas present. Its looking great.

Nice present is right.
Merry Christmas.

So been looking for a set if fenders for the car but dont want to spend too much. Found a set on craigslist for 150 and picked them up this morning and then started fitting some panels and trying to get ready for the body work. The passager side is pretty good but the drivers side needs some work and tweeking still. Trying to have the body done by the beginning of spring then we would like to focus on the mechanical aspect of things. We all know how that goes. It will get there. In the mean time we have to decide on a color. I was stuck on yellow since as long as I can remember but there just something about a black camaro that I can't seem to shake..any opinions? Untill the next time here's some pictures..

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And my work space..
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Car is coming along great... and that looks like a great shop space.

I sure like black camaros, probably the best color and I am glad that other people are willing to paint their camaro black and deal with dusting and cleaning it on a regular basis. After owning and painting a few black show cars I have a tendency to stay away from that color, very high maintenance showing every little thing. But really it is up to you, my 68 camaro was corvette yellow when I got it and actually really liked it so my vote would be for yellow.

Yes it's nice and large. Just need to figure out how to get a little heat as it can be cold up there during these winter months. Plus working on a steel body car dosnt help.

Thanks man. Like I said when I was younger and even now when I see the car all done and going for that first drive I've always seen it in my head as a yellow car. There's just something about a clean black car that can't be beat. I would like to step out of the box some also..I feel yellow can be typical for these cars. I'm going to be putting in some real thought into this as the time comes closer.

It seems like you can't lose with either yellow or black. Here's my $.02.

Initially, I had the exact same dilemna as you. Yellow or black. To me, yellow is a real cool retro/1st gen color (which fits very well into my overall theme). Also, not very many people choose yellow when restoring their 1st gen. So, its even more unique in that way. IMHO, butternut yellow is a cool color, too. Not as taxi looking either. :)

If you decide to go "black" you might want to consider what you can do with modern pearl paints. While the color of my car looks to be "green" on my build thread it actually appears much more black when seen in person. You have to look at the car in alot of sun and at the right angle for the green to dominate.

One of the guys at the shop is painting his car a combination of two black/blue pearls. One is a Mercedes code and I forget the other. But, the color is simply spectacular.

One thing that was suggested to me is to make sure I go with a two-stage paint that is coded because my car will be a daily driver. The paint will eventually have to be reproduced.

Good luck!

The car's coming out great. It looks like your making some nice progress. Those are some nice parts. Keep up the good work.

For me, color has to be one of the hardest decisions. What I do is take a camaro that is the color I am thinking and photoshop wheels and tires of my liking along with body mods. Here are a few pics of yellow camaros that I have collected over the years for you. I might have missed it, what wheel do you plan on running for the street?

Thanks for all the help/info guys. Im almost possitive that the car will be yellow. I have to stick to my guts on this. I will be running cragar s/s for right now (bought them when I was 16 and didnt know what was going on, plus it was all I could afford at the time). They are 17's all around with 8" up front 245 tire and 9" in the rear with 275 tire. I want bigger wheels like 18's in 12" in the rear with a 335 tire but the budget just dosnt match at the moment. The main things right now are bodywork/paint, motor, transmission at the moment. Theres plenty of money to be spent there atm. If I find a good deal on a set of rims and tires that I want I may just bite the bullet but for the moment the cragars will have to do. more updates coming soon.

If you were looking to keep that vintage look at go with a 18" wheel, Vintage Wheel Works just released 18" versions of the V40 and V45 (one of my favorite vintage wheels). Their price is pretty good as well. Here is a link, check out their photo gallery.http://www.vintagewheelworks.com/products/wheels

Thanks for the link man. I really like the v48 as they are not as popular. I feel like almost every muscle car had 5 spokes... well see what the budget allows.


So I work on the car every weekend with my body guy now. Not much really to show atm. A lot of pulling off panels and putting back on, ect..ect..Two weekends ago we where still fitting things and trying to get the panels decent. My drivers side door bothers me still but its deff. better than what it was in the above pictures. We have trued the gap up good but the door to rocked is in twords the fender and flush twords the quarter. Any ideas what to do without going crazy? Everything else fits very nice and seems to be where in needs to be. So last weekend we worked on welding up everything that needs to be welded. The dash, antenna hole on the fender, front plate holes, all emblem holes on the fenders, chrome trim wheel mounting points and we finished off with some small body work. So that took up most of this past weekend. I will take some pictures to show the progess tonight and update. It feels like this stuff is taking forever. It kills me.

In other news me and my dad have been talking about our motor choice and we have decided that if we can find a low mile ls motor that makes somewhere near 550+ we will consider. We have not ruled out the lsx 454 totally but after a lot of though we realize that it is going to cost upwards of 17k easily. Were looking to be somewhere in the range of 10k or less hoepfully with out aftermarket add ons. Where thinking ls7 at the moment. If you guys have thoughts/opinions please chime in. Were not against anything at the moment..

Also as soon as my body guy can not come one weekend where looking into getting a cage put in. I only wanted a simple 4 point as I hate the idea of having to climb over a bar to get into my street car. It seems that the more places I talk to the more guys tell me that if your going to track the car you had better have at a minimum of a 6 point and even then the track will probley give you a hard time. I really dont want a 8 point but were weighing our options right now. More to come on this soon.

Heres the one picture I took this weekend of Timmy drilling the spot welds for the dash..
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Here's the rest of the pictures from this weekend..

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Good work guys.

Thanks man..

More sanding and bodywork..everything looks good with the exception of the drivers door to rocker gap. I'm thinking that when whomever welded up the panels something was not lined up correctly. Anyone have any suggestions on how to make that better without going to crazy..?? We started the rough body work and finished sanding the door jams, fenders jams and trunk jam..and let me tell you that's a lot of jams. Anyone have peanut butter? Haha..anyway still to be sanded are the whole firewall, under hood, and under trunk..not to bad..here are the pictures.

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Here the gap..only twords the fender..it trues up at the quarter
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Here's the passenger side. Perfect.
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And some sanded jams..
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The tail panel needed some work but not too much..
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The next couple of weeks are going to be more body work..then in at the end of February the car will go to a local guy named lance for a 6 point cage with a removable side bar. They will also be finishing up the welding of my rear and welding in dse subframe connectors which have to be bought still. More updates coming soon..

Nice progress its looking good.

^^What Wayne said. Looks good.:thumbsup:

I cannot see the entire extent of your problem with the door gap at the bottom where it meets the rocker. If the back of the door gap to quarter looks good and the fender aligns in the front then one of the ways to fix this is to weld rod to the bottom of the door. I have had to do this to a few first gen camaros, most have either to large of a gap or the gap tappers. Probably not what you wanted to hear but one solution to the problem.

Sorry I didnt take more pictures. Thats what I was thinking and was affraid of. You have it correct. The Door to quarter gap is great and the fender to door gap is good at the top and pinches twords the bottom of the fender. The fender is an aftermarket though. I feel that the door is high at the fender though also, because when you shut the door it grazes the trim on the a pillar twords the front of the car. Ill have to get a picture this weekend. When I have the cage done I will probley have the guy do some work to that area as I want it to be better than it is currently. I will also have him fix the drivers fender lower also as it need some metal work to be right. Ill grab some more pictures and post them up when I get over the the car next. Thanks for the input.:thumbsup:

Tail pan
 

Are you worried at all about getting body cracks where you blended the quarters to the Tail Panel? It looks good, but I thought this line was left to allow for body flex between the panels. I'm possibly overthinking this, but thought I would ask.

To be honest I never even thought about that. The guy that we bought the car off of had braised the panels long ago and he filled most of the seam with it. It looked bad so I talked to my body guy and he said well be well within the body filler amount tolerance that it should be fine. I guess time will tell.

Last night I worked on some more sanding. Mainly the firewall. I have to figure out which holes are for what. Whatever is not needed I would like to close up before any paint work begins. I also got some picture of the drivers door to get some more opinions on what needs to be done to correct it..

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some of the drivers door..

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some near the A pillar..

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and the passanger side for comparison..

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Your making some nice progress. It looks good.

Very good. Keep up the good work.

Ya!! There's another father, son build:cheers: Me and my Dad are doing a 67 and a 69. It's a whole lot of fun. Keep us informed about the project. :thumbsup:

Thanks guys..it's getting there.

Anyone wanna take a guess what we did today..


Sanding..and then more sanding.. I'm done talking about sanding onto the pictures..
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And Timmy did a great job on the quarter to tail panel line.
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There's not much more to do until it gets primed now which needs to be in a booth. We have to seam seal some stuff and in 2-3 weeks the car goes in to get the cage and welding stuff wrapped up..then to the booth for 3 coats of primer then block the whole car again and cut the jambs in..then paint hopefully. Still have to buy an anvil rear spoiler and front valance...more updates coming soon..

can't wait to see the updates, keep up the great work.

rich

After seeing the pictures of the door/rocker panel/quarter panel gap it appears that the front of the door is too high. It looks like it is a little to close to the pillar. You are going to have to weld rod to some part of the door. If you drop the front part of the door down it will open up the door to quarter panel gap, which is pretty much what happened on one of our cars. The aftermarket quarter panels don't always fit to the back part of the door especially the top part. Instead of welding rod to the bottom you might have to weld the rod to the door edge and work that. You will have to take a look at how the body lines are transitioning between panels and let me know what you think. This stuff is pretty common once you start cutting and putting aftermarket panels on, but really, the origianl panels never fit all that great. A good friend of mine has an all original never been repainted 25K mile 1968 camaro that I go over and look at and measure gaps, they are not pretty. Patience is your best tool, used often.

Great work.:thumbsup:

Well the car went to get the cage done today. I got some bad news from the builder lance. He is going to put the cage in, build and weld in sub frame connectors, and finish welding the rear end brackets to complete the air ride set up. We also talked about him welding the bottom of the door to correct that gap. He looked at both doors and told me that they have to be fitted again and some metal is going to be added/filed. He then showed me his 67 and how it should look. Basically the doors need sone work. But at this time he's finishing up some big projects and can handle that kind of work. So he's going to do what we have planed and then let me know when I can bring the car back for the other work. All welding work has to be done before final body work. More updates coming soon as I hopefully will be going there to help our with the work as I'm eager to learn.

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And here's the mustang he's working on ATM..
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Nice progress the car is looking great.

So my dad and my cousin picked up my car last night for me while I was at work. My dad grabbed some pictures for me. I will get some better pictures this weekend. Also if anyone wants the cage builders info just let me know. Hes an awsome guy and really knows his stuff.

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