Id say get on craigslist and find youself a used SD180 or 200 for 1000-1500$ They are capacitor machines but hold up well and if your not trying to transport it all the time will kick but for years to come.

allot of great information, thanks everyone

The Diversion 180 currently has a $500 rebate from Miller until 7/15/18

I think i am going to order one online, several of the retailers are also offering their own deals.

Check out Invertig 221 if you are in the market too. Lots of great reviews and some good youtube reviews online. I have it on my list to purchase with the water cooler.

I'd order the HTP 221 before even thinking of ordering miller diversion 180.

One of the things I am not liking about the Diversion after researching TIG welders in the entry level price range is the Inability to move the torch lead from the welder. I could not ever change that torch, well at least within the warranty period.

Thoughts on the Lincoln Square wave 200? it's $1661.00

https://www.harrisweldingsupplies.co...wes-gift-card/

My budget maxes out at $1500 in reality, that's why I was looking att he Diversion with the rebate...

EDIT,
Thanks also to Ahmad (and others) for suggesting the Invertig. I am looking at this one, I would need to wait a year to get it, maybe longer...
http://www.usaweld.com/ProductDetail...ode=70221-12.5

I've been watching Craiglist, not much locally that folks don't want the original price for...

Ask the wife if she has the time for a third full time job.......

OMG :confused59::lmao:

how about a miller multimatic 215 with tig setup. it does not have a/c for the tig but could use a spool gun. any thoughts on a setup like this?

Save up a little more and get a machine that will do more for you down the road.

Remember --- when they say will do "up to" such and such..... yeah --- well have you ever maxed out your truck and while yes it will pull "X" -- it's not happy about it. LOL


Seriously --- a TIG machine without some minimal features -- and A/C and D/C TIG welding is a must -- not to mention other features you'll want to use...

And this machine won't run 6011 stick.... pretty common stick.

I'd get a "BETTER" MIG only machine if I had 1500/2000 to spend.... and if I needed some TIG work -- take it to someone and have 'em do it for ya. When you can get a TIG machine - then take the plunge.

couldn't agree more Greg. I have a Miller sycrowave 210 and I love it. its a medium duty TIG that is great for most every car application AC and DC and it comes with a spool gun if you need a heavier duty Mig welder. I have a separate Miller 141 MIG for doing lighter duty MIG work. I really love my 210 it is a great machine!

Would you go for a used dynasty 200dx or a htp 210 if the prices where about the same?

200DX --- GREAT little machine

I agree completely. the dynasty machines are awesome

Anyone got any experience tigging with an ESAB Rebel?

I have a Lincoln TIG 200. I have been very impressed with it so far. I bought it to replace the Eastwood TIG that was a huge disappointment.

Ron

They are scratch start only. Not too impressed after seeing it at sema. I have the Lincoln TIG200 and it works great for home use.

Received the HTP 221 for Christmas, my family all went in on it.

I have been remodeling a house in another state since mid-December so I have not got much time in on it.