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DRJDVM's '69 01-11-2011 06:19 PM

I thought you had a black trailer and hated the color?

GregWeld 01-11-2011 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DRJDVM's '69 (Post 326490)
I thought you had a black trailer and hated the color?

Dude...


There is only ONE color -- and that's BLACK.

I hate that it gets dirty maybe -- but I don't hate the color!

DRJDVM's '69 01-11-2011 06:42 PM

I distinctly remember you complaining about keeping it clean and the fact that it became an oven when the outside temp was warm/hot.....

If history is any prediction, you'll get it in black now.....and get all the bells and whistles...and 6 months from now, you'll re-do the whole thing anyway :)

GregWeld 01-11-2011 07:00 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I hate to admit it but it's so true.

Yes the black is an oven --- but the LQ part has A/C... and I don't hang out in the back except to unload the car. Never been in a trailer when it's 90* outside whether it's white or black - that wasn't an oven. As old and out of shape as I am - I'm sweating right now just thinking about it!


BTW -- I'm actually trying to avoid making a 6 figure mistake here.... Nothing worse than committing to something like this and then doing the "repeat after me.... you are a dumbazz" over and over in your head. Thus the reason I thought I'd toss this out there and try to learn first.

Tony Arnold 01-11-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 326452)
Brilliant! You hated the big trailer so much you bought a bigger one! I like you're thinking!
:lol:

the one i bought is actually 5 feet shorter but its a stacker so yes it is bigger haha. Another thing you might want to consider is looking into getting some longer mirrors to see round the trailer that was a problem i had pulling my trailer with my duramax...... couldnt see around the thing untill i got some longer mirrors.

Stuart Adams 01-12-2011 04:32 AM

Have you considered a Haulmark motorcoach pulling a regular size car trailer or stacker. More versatile.

71RS/SS396 01-12-2011 05:33 AM

Don't get the coin flooring! I have it in mine and it's a pain in the arse to clean and keep looking nice. I have the outside halogen flood lights and I think I've used them once in 4 years. I would also suggest an air compressor and plumbed for air lines front and rear, I use mine more than I ever thought I would, it makes it easy for checking tire pressures and using an impact to change flats. I also have an in floor spare tire comparment that is nice for storing your spare tire out of the way.

RECOVERY ROOM 01-12-2011 07:16 AM

Reverse lights are also nice on the outside corners

GregWeld 01-12-2011 07:47 AM

Stuart

No --- And the only reason I say that is because I don't want to have to have a special rig. I want to keep my pick up or possibly a larger pick up but I don't want a dedicated rig for this. My primary reason for liv qtrs is just to stop on the road to and from somewhere -- I have ZERO intention of actually spending a week in this. It's a night here and there. So to have a big motor or toterhome is not what I want to do.


71RS

I have that in my current trailer... I store chains and a spare portable winch. After having one blow out on I-10 out of Palm Springs - and having to back the car up so I could access the spare -- FT!! It's a TRAILER not my living room! I mounted the spare on a mount back by the rear door up high - that way I can just grab it with no unstrapping the car etc.

I have an air compressor already. And yes - I wouldn't be without it. And yes - agree with the side lights - I've used mine ONE TIME. But that one time - was totally kool and useful. They're for pro racer dudes that are out there constantly and working on their stuff. Hot rodder just trailer from place to place so we use our trailers quite differently.

I also have an all aluminum race jack in a pit pal holder.... used it TWICE - but man was it handy. It's one of those -- "better to have it and not need it - than need it and not have it" kind of things. I also carry 3 ton jackstands. They fit in the tire pit.

Most useful handy magical thing ever in the trailer -- a jacking ramp thing I bought at a trailer store never thinking I'd ever use it. If a tire is flat - say the rear - you pull the good one up on the ramp and the flat is off the ground instantly. SUPER EASY! OMG! My flat was on the front so just backed the good rear one on this ramp and bingo bango -- changed and done! pull forward and store the plastic "ramp". :woot:


Tracy


Yes! I added halogen backing lights in the rear - and up the middle of the trailer. Having been caught once on a dark rainy night - dead tired - and having to back my BLACK trailer (24' Motortrac 4000) up 200' and then around a corner with brick walls on both sides.... I'M TOTALLY A FAN OF BIG BACKUP LIGHTS! My Ford has the "upfitter switches" --- which are relayed... totally perfect for that kind of stuff! I have four of them -- so the CB and the Texas Star is on one (30 amp relay) -- back up lights on the truck on one - and have two left for trailer backing lights.

I also have 20 - count 'em - 20 - side marker lights.... Optional - and on the order already! EEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

This f'n thing - should I decide to pull the trigger - will look like a light show rolling down the road! DUDE! <spicoli style> LOL

GregWeld 01-12-2011 07:51 AM

71RS

You're about the third person to say DON'T on the coin floor.

So I'm thinking about just asking them to leave the "box" plywood - painted/sealed.... and maybe having the floor done in bed liner? Or maybe
just leaving it plain and painted.

My current trailer has polished diamond plate --- talk about a waste of money and slippery! One drop of coolant or fluid - and you're going to the hospital with a broken hip!:willy:

JKnight 01-12-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 326481)
This is all quite the learning curve so I'm really glad I posted it up!

My truck is a Crew Cab - 8ft box - DRW - with 4:10 gears -- so the chart you posted has it at 15,600 #s

I have the same truck (4x4), and I've towed my 13K+ pound fifth wheel all over the place so I know it can easily handle what you're looking at. This thing is gonna be badass that's for sure.

Blake Foster 01-12-2011 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 326572)
71RS

You're about the third person to say DON'T on the coin floor.

So I'm thinking about just asking them to leave the "box" plywood - painted/sealed.... and maybe having the floor done in bed liner? Or maybe
just leaving it plain and painted.

My current trailer has polished diamond plate --- talk about a waste of money and slippery! One drop of coolant or fluid - and you're going to the hospital with a broken hip!:willy:

Bed Liner would totaly be the answer!!! have them bed line the plywood on both sides prior to installing it that way it won't rot from the bottom side like mine it. 5$ says they make it an option after you ask for it!!

Ketzer 01-12-2011 08:19 AM

I wonder what is the perfect flooring solution? If it's rough, it's impossible to clean. If it's smooth and it gets even a little damp, you bust azz. I bet most are unhappy whichever way they went.

GregWeld 01-12-2011 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JKnight (Post 326580)
I have the same truck (4x4), and I've towed my 13K+ pound fifth wheel all over the place so I know it can easily handle what you're looking at. This thing is gonna be badass that's for sure.

Mine is also a 4X ---- wish it wasn't but that's another "didn't know better". I really don't need the 4X since - if it's snowing - I just don't go anywhere! LOL


BEST THING EVER --- the BANKS system -- with the brake controller! WOW does that thing work slick! Lift your foot and bam! She goes into compression mode (of course it's not compression but that's what it feels like). So for schitz and giggles -- I came down a long grade - and switched from the trailer mode in the truck (factory option) to the BANKS version... and back and forth. OMG!
The factory version -- I'm just picking up speed man.... like a runaway.... switch to the Banks - BAM! The POS hauls right down and just stays there - and I never touched the brakes. Not sure how it works - but it sure works!

HRBS 01-12-2011 08:35 AM

Damn Greg.... :lol:
Hey, has anyone steered you away from black yet ?
I know black is beautiful but, "light" is right.
I know how hot my 28ft white trailer gets in the summer, I can only imagine a black one. I know you'll have ac but its just a thought.

ps... can i be your friend ?

GregWeld 01-12-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HRBS (Post 326592)
Damn Greg.... :lol:
Hey, has anyone steered you away from black yet ?
I know black is beautiful but, "light" is right.
I know how hot my 28ft white trailer gets in the summer, I can only imagine a black one. I know you'll have ac but its just a thought.

ps... can i be your friend ?


NO


:rofl: :rofl: :woot:


I know you're absolutely right on "white/light"... but I just can't pull the trigger unless my stuff looks "custom" and "badass" even if it means pain and suffering!

I get so many calls on the CB saying how killer my rig looks rollin'.... and I have to like it myself or I'm just not happy. I fully understand my sickness and have surrendered to it! :D

GregWeld 01-12-2011 08:55 AM

PS:

I really just want to be a "baller" like Kenny and Rodger... and if I got white - Charley would think I copied him.

:D

ironworks 01-12-2011 09:37 AM

How about black sides with a white roof, with good roof vents.

96z28ss 01-12-2011 12:13 PM

Does the tailgate have to be swapped out with one that has the lower section in the middle?

JKnight 01-12-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 96z28ss (Post 326626)
Does the tailgate have to be swapped out with one that has the lower section in the middle?

Only if you want to avoid doing the dance of, lower the tailgate, hitch up to the trailer, raise the tailgate, drive off. Some people like to be able to back up, hitch up and go. I don't find it too annoying, but gets ugly if you forget.

71RS/SS396 01-14-2011 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 326572)
71RS

You're about the third person to say DON'T on the coin floor.

So I'm thinking about just asking them to leave the "box" plywood - painted/sealed.... and maybe having the floor done in bed liner? Or maybe
just leaving it plain and painted.

My current trailer has polished diamond plate --- talk about a waste of money and slippery! One drop of coolant or fluid - and you're going to the hospital with a broken hip!:willy:

Yep forgot about the coin flooring being slippery as snot on a glass door knob too. I'm not sure about bedliner, it's tough to clean too the dirt sits in the valleys of the texture. I honestly think painted wood is the way to go, it can be repainted if it gets tired looking.

Romulus 01-14-2011 11:54 AM

I'm bet a little research would find something pretty reasonable and maybe even kinda trick to vent heat via solar operated fan. You have enough sqft on the roof that you could run AC on solar... :lol:

Heck - they are putting flexible solar panels in back packs nowadays.

GregWeld 01-14-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Romulus (Post 326949)
I'm bet a little research would find something pretty reasonable and maybe even kinda trick to vent heat via solar operated fan. You have enough sqft on the roof that you could run AC on solar... :lol:

Heck - they are putting flexible solar panels in back packs nowadays.

Sounds like a tree hugger!

LOL

No roof penetrations for me. I live in the land of rain and the heat just isn't an issue nearly as much as something that pokes a hole in a roof. Good suggestion though!

nvmyss 01-14-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 326463)
I remember a KALIFORNIA nazi black and white unit pulling me over on I-5 and going over all my GVWR etc.... he was really just trying to bust my chops --

The latest thing CA has is they are giving tickets to 3 axle trailers. Some how they are justifying it as a commercial or special endorsement license. They are trying to get every penny they can off people.

Might want to look in to that if you go thru CA often.

Romulus 01-14-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 326954)
Sounds like a tree hugger!

LOL

No roof penetrations for me. I live in the land of rain and the heat just isn't an issue nearly as much as something that pokes a hole in a roof. Good suggestion though!

Tree hugger..oh hell no. I just like technology. And these guys are all hung up on the few extra degrees that black is gonna give you.

Speaking of tree huggers...I actually read about a "kalifornia" proposal making certain dark colored cars illegal since it "decreased" fuel economy due to the AC working harder.....holy helllll!

tazzz2_ca 01-14-2011 05:24 PM

Hey Greg I just saw this buddy..... Call me on the cell or we'll talk down at Barrett next week because I can share a few little things with you there buddy....

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a...00414-1213.jpg

96z28ss 01-14-2011 05:29 PM

Are the sides of that thing made of canvas?
Wow thats got some waves in it.

96z28ss 01-29-2011 01:59 PM

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Well I think Greg has found his car hauler with living quarters.
He emailed me this picture to post it up. I think he did a good job. Just not sure how reliable it is, it seems like he bought it slightly used.

awr68 01-30-2011 10:31 AM

What's the over all length limit for Cali and other States? I remember my cousin telling me that Cali is 60' max? He has a motorhome and 26' race trailer for his Drag Boat and was telling me he is too long for Cali...but goes down there a couple times a year anyways...so far no problems...but it's always in the back of his mind when he goes down there for races!

awr68 01-30-2011 10:33 AM

Greg, Frank has a 42' (I believe) trailer (black!)...I would think he would have some good insight after crossing the country a couple few times with it! :cheers:

clill 01-30-2011 10:52 AM

Can I be first in line to buy it for 10 cents on the dollar when you decide it is too big ?

JamesJ 01-30-2011 11:23 AM

It may be one of your options but I would get a third axle, and get brakes on all the axles not just two.

The other thing is get e track (thats what we call it) along the front and some of the sides, nice to strap tool boxes or whatever to the sides or front.

Make sure the gas tank filler for the gen is not in a hard place to get and on the driver side, and that when filling its got a nice flow to it.

Flush lights on the side are nice then when you look in your rear view you dont see lights at night

as far as lights just make sure you can get to them have had some traielrs in the past were it would take a hour to change the bulb

We also use the goodyear G rated tire and steel wheels, and have two spares. The tires are great and you have to use a wheel that can handle 100+ psi

I also see that people are talking about a big truck, NO we have a FL 70 and a F450 and the 450 is just so much simpler and you can actually drive it around. But if you wan to buy a FL70 toter home and 44 footer then I got one for you!

awr68 01-30-2011 11:29 AM

What about a driver side exit door?

rocketman 01-30-2011 04:34 PM

What are you hauling just show car? I dont think the living 1/4's are needed unless you are racing or going to stay in it at shows etc.

awr68 01-30-2011 04:40 PM

He has a '32 and '37 that he wants to haul around...not sure if the '56 will be in the mix as well?

ironworks 01-30-2011 05:43 PM

Well don't ask me how but the legal limit is 65 ft. We were 64'10".

And if my trailer was a 2 axle I would not need a non commercial CDL. With the triple 7k axles it puts the trailer over the GVWR and requires me to have an A class license. And legally I'm supposed to have a CDL to just drive my F-450 down the highway.

Apparently Jerry Brown is looking to me to pull California out of this budget crisis single handedly.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

nvr2fst 01-30-2011 08:33 PM

Greg,

I can guarantee you wont go wrong with ATC. I personally own 3 of there all aluminum trailers, smallest being a custom fitted 16' I opt to use on the job sites as my office once the first scratch/bent fender got on it, lol, a 24 and 26' Although mine are not gooseneck type the "fit and finish" is the best Ive ever had out of multiple brands over the years. Plus there not to far away so I was able to buy direct. Ive always heard good things about Renegade too but I never see them being pulled out here in the midwest.
Bare in mind though if you have to replace a fender skirt it will set u back almost 500 per side (dont let others back up your trailers:mad:)

ATC- look at the cost of there cabinets and accessories. They are priced much lower than others if you decide to upgrade your package down the line. Have you checked out there Silver series ? the way they do the bottom corners are sweet and the paint schemes will definitely put you in as a "baller" like Rodger HA

nvr2fst 01-30-2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RECOVERY ROOM (Post 326479)
Have lights installed in floor to use at night for hooking up straps, Wireless remote for winch control, also lower lights on the walls to use at night.

Are you sure your not trying to get Greg to build a disco dance floor:rofl:

GregWeld 01-30-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 329858)
Greg, Frank has a 42' (I believe) trailer (black!)...I would think he would have some good insight after crossing the country a couple few times with it! :cheers:

Lots of guys have gooseneck trailers but so far I haven't had any luck finding someone with living quarters in one.

nvr2fst 01-30-2011 09:00 PM

A baller like yourself needs to showoff that fancy interior. Clearview ATC trailer? Not sure about the water closet though!

http://www.aluminumtrailer.com/ATC%2...69401-0000.jpg


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