Does anyone know if the Sunday morning road course times were logged and included in the results too? I packed up and left before lunch but still want to know how I did.

Thanks ya'll.

-Steven

Not sure.. I ran Racepak data and showed Dave hit the 1:06.x range... not sure if they were clicking stopwatches though.

Thanks Steve,

Never got to say hi to you but watching penny run made us big fans of the car.

My crew was clocking me in the low 1:11's so I was pretty happy with how it was going. Then I found out that Sunday morning was categorized as "practice" or something. Anyways, I just hope I win title of "fastest car built outdoors."

I'm pretty sure that was practice session only. That's what they told me anyway. Some things seemed to change a bit on the fly tho.

Yea, after these events I always get a little sad that I didn't get to talk to more new people.. between running the car and working it's pretty crazy.

Come by and say hello next time. 1:11 is a great time.. :)

No, Sunday morning session was for practice and no times were recorded. We did get times for the afternoon session though.

http://www.detroitspeed.com/speednew...2011-pg-1.html

Detroit Speed has the results on their site. Go to the link then to the page you want to see for the appropriate segment.

To clear the air guys and you are certainly hearing this from the horse's mouth, or maybe the jackass's mouth.
We should have had all vendors in a class by themselves, not just the sponsors.
Speedtech, TCI certainly should have been vendors since they sell suspension parts, period.
I take the blame for that and it won't happen again. It is tough trying to put different people in different classes. In Speedtech's case, Blake was the registered participant and Jay drove so the scoring shows Blake not Jay. It is a slippery slope when you start breaking down all the variables and that is why I HATE even keeping score. I do not want these event becoming so competitive that we lose sight of what they are intended to be about. At RTTHs I have always put EVERYONE in the same class. Run what you brung and hope you brung enough! I may go back to that at all future events, makes my life much easier for sure.

To clear the air, if you haven't already looked at the results on DSEs sight, Ryan was the fastest, Jay(listed as Blake) was second and Kyle came in third on the roadcourse. Either way, all three were very much in the hunt and the results show the true numbers, regardless of class which to me is the important numbers anyway.

And just so everyone knows, Kyle would have won the OUSCI invitation had everyone been in the same class, he certainly had the field covered.

So, without starting another firestorm here, these are the facts as I saw them.

i had fun meeting a lot of you guys and i hope to have my ride done next year. theres not many places you go where everyone is so cool to each other.

i can tell you first hand that gregs job was very difficult. with two cars on the track at a time it took some team work and concentration to keep it all straight. couple that with the friggin wind and other distractions and it still amazes me that it all went smoothly.

Tim

Was Brian Hobaugh's vette disqualified for something? Seems like he should have finished 1st or 2nd overall?

I had a blast just watching the event.:thumbsup:

I'm sure Bill or someone will post exactly how the events were scored and totaled for the overall results, but Brian did not get the points for the Friday cruise so that could've been a factor.

He didn't do the Friday cruise.. so he lost 3 points.. which cost him the oveall title by 1 point.

At least that's my understanding.. that Vette is crazy fast, no wonder it wins so much in SCCA.

Steve, do you know how the scoring of the 3 racing events were setup?

My understanding was it is based on the OUSCI point structure. Using that spreadsheet gives me more points than Finch so I'm assuming Bill had his own values?

I have no idea how the points were added up. I also did not know you were required to participate in the cruise. I thought it was optional. I never saw that in the rules. Oh well.

Yea, that sucked.. and sorry that screwed you on points. But you're a racer, you know to ALWAYS read the rules.. lol

Anyways, your car was f'ing impressive and you can know that it was one of the baddest at the event.

Guys, I am making a quick pass thru the house so don't have time to post much. The rules this year were the same as last year, different point system than OUSCI. You can find the rules at PT or maybe even here from last year.

Brian would have still been one point short, by my calculations had he made the cruise so that is really a non issue. :thumbsup:

Trust me, there were so many numbers to crunch in a short period of time and everyone is standing over your shoulders while you are doing it. Now, with time to sort everything without pressure, there may be differences, I hope not but that is always possible.
Also, when you shift people to vendor, media, professional driver, and the list goes on, you can come up with several different ways the results shake out. This is hard to do guys and keep it fair. I have quit trying to make everyone happy, just trying to keep it fair.

Bill,

I had a great time meeting a bunch of guys I had only comunicated with via internet. Saw the best cars around and got all the track time I could ever want. Great job and look forward to doing it again.

Brian

Sorry Bill.. I thought you announced at the event that BH lost to BF by one point because BH didn't get three for the cruise..

My bad..

Anyways, fun event and I'm so glad the weather worked out for us.. goo times.

x2
Thanks Bill and gang.
Brett
fab53 Camaro

First off, I want to Thank everyone who participated at the event and hope every one had a Great time!! I want to personally Thank all the Vendors who supported the event along with the volunteers especially Greg and Chuck. Every year we learn more from our past events to further a better outcome for the near future. Next year, all participants will be in the same class regardless if you are a vendor, media or participant!! Furthermore, as stated per this years rules, If you registered the car, You Must Be The Driver!! Again, it's about having FUN with our friends and drinking a little apple pie, right Doug!!!

1st,,, second,,,third it's all un-important Bill,,,, speaking for Carbon Kustoms we sponsors these events because it brings "a great group of people" together to enjoy some spirited driving in a safe environment with most importantly a lot of fun to be had....

I share your view point that the event is the people and the laughs.... Racing is handled by SCCA who do a great job of just that.... We're just a group of enthusiasts that love to laugh :thumbsup: , drive in a spirited fashion :cool: ,,,,, May we never loss focus of that I hope....

Some of us don't drink or drive :woot: --- and we STILL HAVE A KICK AZZ TIME!

I agree with the changes -- just everybody run what ya brung -- and most of all ENJOY a great time!

It's ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS about the PEOPLE not the dang cars... The cars are just the excuse for getting us all together.

Thanks again for volunteering all weekend Greg!
Hope your head wasn't aching from having to do all of the math related to adding cone penalties onto my times. I imagine what is simple at first eventually wears ya down.

By the way, I really wanted to see you driving ze German boat of yours around the autocross.


Matt

Too funny.... You're new nickname is "coney". And yeah -- my head is still writing times down!

Watching me drive anything is not much fun.... watching Brian Finch wheel that tub around was a hoot though! That man can DRIVE! For him to jump in that big ol' boat -- street tire pressures and all... me in the passenger seat and he goes around twice and lays down a 40.4 ! Get out! Another time or two and he'd have laid down a 39 sec run. There's a trick to keeping the twin turbos on spool... 'cause it's a dog without 'em.

Bill Howell and I gave it a couple of runs - but I think we spent more time laughing than driving... Both Bob Braga and Rodger Lee went way faster than Bill or I.

Exactly, I flew half way across the country to help and hang out. Good times!

Now that's what I love about this gang,,, it's all about the fun in the end...