Scott, I don't get it. Why ask the question then? :question:

Absolutely. I saw Stielow's car put down that 750 hp pretty damn well, but many others would not and cannot!

[QUOTE=Flash68;340623]Scott, I don't get it. Why ask the question then? :question:

The question I was interested in was how much HP was being used.I already know about, chassis stiffness,Sub frame connector's,Roll cages,and full chassis's.I am sorry to have upset you.

[QUOTE=coolwelder62;340684]We all know you know your sh!t when it comes to suspension/chassis stuff... your subframe is probably what I'd buy if I were going aftermarket. And you have not upset I can assure you. :cheers:

doesent red devil have traction control?

Yes, my right foot :rofl:

All it has is ABS and 830 ft lbs of torque...

I have driven a number of vehicles with traction control systems and it makes the car easier to drive off the corner. On most cars I turn it off if I can. I have not driven a good race system yet. Could be interesting.

Mark

Global warming at it's pinnacle. :unibrow: :thumbsup:

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Traction control on hot rods.........yuck! Takes all the fun and skill out of car control IMO.

My son Kevin and I have started planing our next build.We were going to do something togather along w/ my 2 younger son's.And we were wonding how power some of the really good PT. car's had.This way we could start working on our budget,Car choice,suspension choice & design,engine & trans choice.We would like to have a competive car when we get it completed.Thank's to everybody who chimed in.:thumbsup:

Scott, I think cam selection, transmission gear ratios and rear gear ratios would be a big thing to consider and to ask what they are running. Kevin could probably give you some good input on that. I'm sure you already asked him how the car felt but have you asked him how the gearing and torque curve felt?

Scott - I woud add....Put the COW on a Diet! Acid dip the body, get an alum front clip (right Gae?) or CF, do a full tube frame, the thinnest custom sheet metal floor you can build. Then add gearing as above, gobs of HP and the Scott Mock suspension set-up + wide front wheels/lexan windows which are your signature moves. Then get some killer Penskes and track tune as much as you can.

And quit bitchen at Dave...:lol:

Or just buy a Z06 and save a leg, arm, and left nut.:rofl:

Who's Dave.:_paranoid

What are the wt.# saving of using Alum. frt. clip over Steel.If I were going to drive then losing Wt.# on my end would be the answer.But since Kevin will be driving that's not a problem.:thumbsup:

whats the fun in that?! Dont get me wrong they are badass cars and id like to have a new Z06. But how many new corvettes do you see on the road everyday and how many badass pro touring rides do you see on the road everyday? And its way more fun to drive a car you built yourself that is capable of running with or beating a new Z06.
just my .02
kevin

all depends on power to weight ratio, my mini taught me that.

lil suckers for sale.

:lol: I'm Dave... Ron was just being my big brother here. Haha. It's all good Scott. I just get a little mouthy sometimes. :D

Carry on! :lateral:

Cool Dave.Sometimes I can't tell when someone is joking.Sorry:thumbsup:

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Eyes teasin' you Scotty! :cheers:

Not my point. Your exact view is what led me down this rode when I built my car. Not many cars around here are capable of taking out a Z06. Maybe none....

If I were serious about competing---this seems like the slam dunk thing to do. I wouldn't enjoy driving it as much as the Camaro though---not by a long shot. There is just something about taking these cars around the track, auto X, whatever--that is such a blast. On top of that, we get to drive them to events, around town, road trips, etc----you just can't beat that. My opinion only of course.

Doug

"The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to return soup at a deli".

Costanza.

The whole 9 yrds will save you 100 lbs.

X2, wheres the fun. buying a vette would be too easy. Unless you got a smokin' deal on a thrashed one that you had to rebuild :thumbsup:

Weight and tires play a huge part. Take a look at the times some of the little 200 hp Honda's and Acura's are laying down at Buttonwillow 13CW on the Speed Ventures site some time.

If it were me I'd go front and rear lexan and leave the side glass. That way you can still roll your windows up and down. I heard the euro bumpers were a bitch but that another good place to loose weight. Next step for me is rear lexan and aluminum trunk lid. Then I'm putting my battery behind the passenger seat.

.......Like anybody really needs to tell Scott where to take the weight off a car......:rolleyes: . I think the Sunoko Camaro was 2700 lbs.

Mark,
Rear wheel or flywheel torque there?

I remember what the SL65 Mercedes does when you turn it off and go past what it wants you to do..................... :wow: :rofl: Very interesting movements at that point.

Jody

Speak for yourself.. although I'm not talking ZR1.. lol

Oh, I forgot about you. :lol: :unibrow:

Gaestano,100 lbs. would be nice.I wonder what the diff between alum. hood and CF hood.My sunoco camaro wt 2820#w/o a driver.But it had no,AC,sound deading,carpet,back seat,lexsan 1/4 windows & reg.CF hood,header,cowl panels.CF sparco seats. I really think right now Mark Stielow has built the the best all around PT.car to date.It's light, quick,very driveable in traffic,has Radio,AC,Comfortable seats,sound deading for quiet ride,Very,Very nice paint job,IHMO no stupid body mods.

Thanks for the compliment :thumbsup:

I drove the car last week. No drama started right up and idles at 650 RPM.

Flywheel - I never trust rear wheel numbers. A Dynajet is a different deal from a Mustang dyno.

Mark

You need to be careful with the aluminum it creases very easily.I had fender covers on the car and was working in the engine compartment. The weight of my body and resting my forearms on the tops of the fenders created a couple very shallow creases. That wont keep me from buying the aluminum again though.

2820 is pretty impressive.

I agree, Mark has a sweet ride.The addition of the ABS was just icing on the cake.

I don't know if alum. fender's will work w/me.280# leaning on an alum. fender might not work so well.I might want to find a 60's model impala.Little heavy steel in one of those.

What weight savings can you get going with a composite front end like cf or fiberglass?


Transmissions also help the car go faster if selected correctly. Has anyone built a serious version of the 6 speed auto and road raced it? Should be easier to drive than a manual though not as fun in my opinion. You sound like you're more interested in competing and winning then simply having fun so paddle shift could be a viable option.