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Rick D 03-27-2012 08:36 PM

Hay Jim what are you using for your front runner system? Looks very compact. The welds look sweet, you make them look really good :thumbsup:

INTMD8 04-05-2012 10:52 PM

Thanks Rick. Front drive is from Wegner Motorsports.

I finally ordered tires. Pilot sport PS2. Front 255/45/19 (28.1 diameter) rear 275/40/20 (29.8 diameter).

EVOD will build the wheels with a simulated sidewall so they will appear to be 16's and 17's with a lot of sidewall height. I think this is the ideal way to achieve the proper look on an old car like this while still having brake clearance and the ability to run a performance tire.

At approximate ride height-

http://imageshack.us/a/img191/5453/e...ghamps2001.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img827/2751/e...ghamps2002.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img24/1089/el...ghamps2005.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img849/3366/e...ghamps2007.jpg

On the bump stops-

http://imageshack.us/a/img259/1969/e...ghamps2012.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img841/5135/e...ghamps2011.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img843/3615/e...ghamps2013.jpg

FETorino 04-05-2012 11:22 PM

This build just keeps getting better. Great fab work and welding. the tires look great. The wheel concept sounds like it will look retro & awesome.

INTMD8 06-20-2012 07:57 PM

Thanks!

I've been a bit lazy on the car but a new part arrived, a fuel tank that matches the roof :-)

Thanks to Hector and the guys at Rick's tanks. This is their Vaporworx tank which runs corner pickups and a dual pump module from a 2012 Cadillac CTS-V. It's brushed stainless and has a 26.5 gallon capacity. Stock tank is 20 gallons.

Just need to get some brackets. (It will be mounted to the frame).

http://imageshack.us/a/img829/23/eld...rougham329.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img7/3695/eld...rougham330.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img405/7672/e...rougham331.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img233/9198/e...rougham332.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img232/4547/e...rougham333.jpg

Rick D 06-20-2012 08:02 PM

Nice Jim, man this is going to be one cool ride for sure! I always get more done in the winter than the summer. How are the wheels coming?

INTMD8 06-20-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 420704)
Nice Jim, man this is going to be one cool ride for sure! I always get more done in the winter than the summer. How are the wheels coming?

Thanks Rick! Yeah I've been spending a lot of time on my motorcycles trying to enjoy the weather. In the winter I don't mind locking myself up in the garage.

Wheels are coming along well, I'm told they will be done this month.

Basically looking pretty stock! You can see in the cad drawings how the whitewall is integrated.

http://imageshack.us/a/img135/4560/evodcad.jpg

intocarss 06-20-2012 09:40 PM

This a truely a bad ass build :thumbsup:

INTMD8 07-04-2012 04:02 PM

Thanks!

A few more pics, tank mounted.

http://imageshack.us/a/img196/8449/e...rougham336.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img94/4958/el...rougham335.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img571/4574/e...rougham337.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/103/el...rougham334.jpg

fleetus macmullitz 07-04-2012 04:25 PM

Safe to say this is the biggest project car on here. :cool:

214Chevy 07-04-2012 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 420701)
... It's brushed stainless and has a 26.5 gallon capacity.

Oooooh weee....26.5 x $4.00/gallon premium fuel=$106 per fill up. :( Geesh, that is a huge tank. Nonetheless, this beauty will look sweet rolling down the road. I love the classic look of the wheels.:wow:

INTMD8 07-05-2012 12:45 PM

Yes, pricey to fill up. With how much the car weighs I doubt it will get much better than 15mpg so I need a big tank for decent range.

FETorino 07-05-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 422966)
Yes, pricey to fill up. With how much the car weighs I doubt it will get much better than 15mpg so I need a big tank for decent range.

Uh what about the 390 twin turbo monster that is moving all that weight? Maybe 15mpg is optimistic no matter what the car weighs:D

I think I said it before but you're nailing the stance,:wow: the wheels :wow: and that chassis looks like typical RS trickery.:hail:

What are your plans for color and interior?

INTMD8 07-05-2012 09:50 PM

Maybe, I was getting around 20mpg out of my TT Malibu so 15mpg on the Cadillac was just a guess since it will be at least 1000lbs heavier.

Either way, not a major concern but I think you would agree it needs a big gas tank :lol:

As for color, my gut is telling me black on black (such a nice contrast against all of the chrome and stainless).

May sound a bit boring but I think it keeps with the quiet/classy theme.

FETorino 07-05-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 423072)
Maybe, I was getting around 20mpg out of my TT Malibu so 15mpg on the Cadillac was just a guess since it will be at least 1000lbs heavier.

Either way, not a major concern but I think you would agree it needs a big gas tank :lol:

As for color, my gut is telling me black on black (such a nice contrast against all of the chrome and stainless).

May sound a bit boring but I think it keeps with the quiet/classy theme.

I agree on the tank (hey it's a big cruiser and when you hit the road you want to be able to cruise not stop at gas stations) and I agree on the black exterior. Springsteen said it Cadillac, cadillac, long and dark shiny and Black.

I just see a saddle color interior. Like the interior of a 50s Mercedes 190. Upscale sporting luxury.:D

You haven't missed yet so maybe Black on black is the way to go.:thumbsup:

Rick D 07-06-2012 05:17 AM

Wow Jim that tank is HUGE and beautiful. Love the idea of black on black but a nice chocolate interior would be sweet, just Rob like said I keep thinking BMW,MB or something like the high end interiors. Let me know if you need any help on the body and paint, like said before I'm willing to give you hand or some pointer if you want!

fleetus macmullitz 07-06-2012 06:36 AM

A near black like a dark graphite metallic might work as well, without the hassle of a black car.

Had a '93 RWD Fleetwood Brougham that was 225" long, but was strangely compromised on front leg room. Great looking end of an era cars though.

INTMD8 07-06-2012 09:03 AM

Well you guys may be on to something, the only other color combo I really think about is dark grey/tobacco like Audi R8.

Just one of a thousand things I obsess over and never make a decision on.

Rick, thanks I will definitely need help from someone. I'll do as much as I can but I don't want to attempt a garage paint job on this one.

INTMD8 07-13-2012 09:24 PM

I made some more progress on the exhaust. I decided to go under the axle with the exhaust and I feel I should explain why since it's not something I would normally do.

Having the Roadster Shop frame, the rearend is tucked up higher and has about 5.5 inches of total travel. With the rearend on the bumpstops their is zero room above it. At full suspension sag the rearend is still tucked up pretty high in the car. Since the exhaust had to still travel upwards from the round pass-through holes in the frame (rather than being bent down to go around the axle) it seemed like going under was the logical choice.

In the pics you will see how it looks with the rearend at full sag. The pics with the stand under the rearend is at the half way point of suspension travel. At that point the lower control arms are still lower than the exhaust system.

Pictured from the rear the fuel tank blocks the view of most of it. At nearly ground level you can see the pipes and rear axle but overall I like the way it looks and am very happy with the way it's going. Next will be mounting the mufflers and making the rest of the exhaust hangers.

http://imageshack.us/a/img221/6631/e...rougham338.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img835/6372/e...rougham339.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/9397/e...rougham340.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img404/2820/e...rougham341.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img833/732/el...rougham342.jpg
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http://imageshack.us/a/img526/7605/e...rougham347.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img515/5900/e...rougham348.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img837/77/eld...rougham349.jpg

GregWeld 07-13-2012 09:40 PM

I did that once -- then when I had to pull the wheels/tires - they wouldn't clear the rotor to fender clearance because the axle couldn't drop enough -- so had to cut the exhaust to get 'em off. When I put it back together - I made a mod to be easily disconnected and removed.

It's a bad situation if you're on a road trip and need to fix a wheel/tire...

LOOKS GREAT BY THE WAY!!

INTMD8 07-13-2012 09:48 PM

Yeah with the way the fenders are I need to unbolt the rear shocks and sway bar end links to let the rearend sag enough to remove the tires. 2 quick release v-band clamps are only a few more minutes of work :)

INTMD8 07-17-2012 07:33 PM

Wheel progress! They should be done in a couple of weeks. :thumbsup:

http://imageshack.us/a/img338/2787/evodbrougham1.jpg

waynieZ 07-17-2012 07:34 PM

That looks awesome.

Rick D 07-17-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 425298)
Wheel progress! They should be done in a couple of weeks. :thumbsup:

http://imageshack.us/a/img338/2787/evodbrougham1.jpg

Man Jim those are going to look sweet! :thumbsup: You really won't be able to tell just how custom this car is until your are on top of it!!

FETorino 07-17-2012 08:27 PM

Like everything on the car those are bad ass:thumbsup:

Now if I could just talk you into dark saddle interior.:D

214Chevy 07-17-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 425298)
Wheel progress! They should be done in a couple of weeks. :thumbsup:

http://imageshack.us/a/img338/2787/evodbrougham1.jpg

Sorry, I don't have anything to say because I'm speechless.:drool: :drool:

FETorino 07-17-2012 10:30 PM

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ugham_1957.jpg

Rick D 07-18-2012 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 425332)

:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:

barrrf 07-18-2012 07:43 AM

YES YES YES............very cool build. A big ol boat would be my next build - if there ever is one! I love this!

INTMD8 07-18-2012 08:38 PM

Thanks guys, I'm very pleased with the work of EVOD. Can't wait to see them finished.

FETorino- Haha, that's been my desktop pic for the last year. Dark saddle interior might be a tough sell but I will keep an open mind.

Rick- I hope so, that's what I'm going for at least. Looking stock-ish at first glance.

FETorino 07-19-2012 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 425493)
Thanks guys, I'm very pleased with the work of EVOD. Can't wait to see them finished.

FETorino- Haha, that's been my desktop pic for the last year. Dark saddle interior might be a tough sell but I will keep an open mind.

I posted your desktop, I also went with an RS chassis we're thinking on the same plane...... saddle..... saddle....saddle::thumbsup:

I hope you don't mind me posting the pic. Your build will make it look like Poo but it's as close as I could get to a visual of your final build.:D

INTMD8 07-19-2012 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 425534)
I posted your desktop, I also went with an RS chassis we're thinking on the same plane...... saddle..... saddle....saddle::thumbsup:

I hope you don't mind me posting the pic. Your build will make it look like Poo but it's as close as I could get to a visual of your final build.:D

Come on now, with that logic I need to yank the LS and drop in a side oiler :D

I love that pic, I even tried to convince Larry at Evod to put the little gold stripe on there but he wouldn't do it, said the whitewall was enough :lol:

Roadster Shop 07-19-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 425553)
Come on now, with that logic I need to yank the LS and drop in a side oiler :D

Nah, rob needs to wake up already and drop a LS into his Torino.:lol:

mrgm 07-19-2012 07:38 PM

ohhh boy am i liking this one.

FETorino 07-19-2012 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INTMD8 (Post 425553)
Come on now, with that logic I need to yank the LS and drop in a side oiler :D

I love that pic, I even tried to convince Larry at Evod to put the little gold stripe on there but he wouldn't do it, said the whitewall was enough :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadster Shop (Post 425611)
Nah, rob needs to wake up already and drop a LS into his Torino.:lol:

I would be just as offended if you put a Sideoiler in that Caddy as I would be if someone put an LS in a Torino.. :mad: Well almost as offended:rolleyes:

Love this car that's for sure:D

INTMD8 07-25-2012 04:31 PM

Another wheel pic :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/3310/evodbrougham2.jpg

Rick D 07-25-2012 05:45 PM

Wow that is just freaken sweet!! :thumbsup:

Al Moreno 07-26-2012 07:09 AM

Wow, just wow!

FETorino 07-28-2012 09:30 PM

Those wheels are nice.:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

How about some more progress pics. I never get tired of looking at pics of this Caddy.:D

groovyjay 07-29-2012 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 427390)
Those wheels are nice.:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

How about some more progress pics. I never get tired of looking at pics of this Caddy.:D


I agree! Love this build! :lateral: :cheers:

INTMD8 07-29-2012 07:39 PM

You guys are expecting a lot from a self admitted lazy person. Besides getting beat horribly at beer in hand volleyball I did manage a slight bit more progress.

Just need to add a few exhaust hangers to each muffler and the system will be finished with a bit more grinding and welding.

Most people turn the exhaust down under the bumper when they restore these cars but I'm going through the bumper as it was originally.


http://imageshack.us/a/img220/7043/e...rougham350.jpg
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http://imageshack.us/a/img37/7001/el...rougham360.jpg


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