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JMitch19 11-05-2011 11:25 PM

I was in the same boat as you guys. My order was at 16 weeks last tuesday. I work for a automotive aftermarket manufacture(not wheels). I know delays happen. Driverz Inc hasn't done anything wrong imo. When the delays were going on I told Jon I just want the wheels to be right. On time would be nice, but I want them to be right.

As of Wednesday my Fikse order was cancelled, and I am going in another direction. Driverz Inc. is taking care me on my new order. I wouldn't have had a problem waiting for my Fikse order, but I didn't like the two more weeks, two more weeks, two more weeks game. If when my original 8 week order deadline past Fikse would have asked for another 8 weeks I probably wouldn't have had a big problem with it. I live in Michigan and my car season is over anyway. My wheels were suppose to ship next week. The problem is I've heard that before. Simply do what you say you are going to do. If I felt like Fikse would have kept their word and my wheels would be shipping next week I probably wouldn't have cancelled the order.

I'm excited about my new order and the changes that will be done to the car to make them fit. Thanks for the second chance to make the right decision the first time.

greg5436 11-06-2011 06:42 AM

After reading all the posts this reminds me of a prodigy custom order,but I have to give props to Driverz Inc for at least putting your orders in when you placed your order. Greg

Beegs 11-06-2011 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMitch19 (Post 377058)
I was in the same boat as you guys. My order was at 16 weeks last tuesday. I work for a automotive aftermarket manufacture(not wheels). I know delays happen. Driverz Inc hasn't done anything wrong imo. When the delays were going on I told Jon I just want the wheels to be right. On time would be nice, but I want them to be right.

As of Wednesday my Fikse order was cancelled, and I am going in another direction. Driverz Inc. is taking care me on my new order. I wouldn't have had a problem waiting for my Fikse, but I didn't like the two more weeks, two more weeks, two more weeks game. If when my original 8 week order deadline past Fikse would have asked for another 8 weeks I probably wouldn't have had a big problem with it. I live in Michigan and my car season is over anyway. My wheels were suppose to ship next week. The problem is I've heard that before. Simply do what you say you are going to do. If I felt like Fikse would have kept their word and my wheels would being shipping next week I probably wouldn't have cancelled the order.

I'm excited about my new order and the changes that will be done to the car to make them fit. Thanks for the second chance to make the right decision the first time.

Well said :yes:

elitecustombody 11-10-2011 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tmadden (Post 376692)
Thank you Forgeline


Ditto!

We got Forgelines for Fernando's new CTS-V literally in 2 weeks,no joke.

I guess I will never understand why people like Fikse so much,when there are many other wheel makers with much faster build time. :_paranoid

JMitch19 11-10-2011 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by elitecustombody (Post 377994)
Ditto!

We got Forgelines for Fernando's new CTS-V literally in 2 weeks,no joke.

I guess I will never understand why people like Fikse so much,when there are many other wheel makers with much faster build time. :_paranoid

I think part of the problem is that no one expected it to take 16+ weeks. When someone tells me 6-8 weeks I assume they are going to deliver. When they said "two more weeks" I figured okay no biggie. When they said "two more weeks" a second time I was like wtf... Oh well, what's another two weeks. When they didn't follow through for the third time I jumped ship. I'm now playing for team Forgeline!! They said 2-3 weeks build the wheels. They will ship to Driverz Inc for mounting and balancing. Driverz Inc will then ship them to me. We are shooting for 4-5 weeks from date of order to my door.

bigtime 11-10-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elitecustombody (Post 377994)
Ditto!
I guess I will never understand why people like Fikse so much,when there are many other wheel makers with much faster build time. :_paranoid

because the wheels are so dam nice when you get them!

elitecustombody 11-11-2011 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtime (Post 378009)
because the wheels are so dam nice when you get them!

Can you define "so dam nice "? Their huge lineup of the whole 5 styles,that's been around for 20 years? Or the quality the OP has experienced?

bigtime 11-11-2011 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by elitecustombody (Post 378052)
Can you define "so dam nice "? Their huge lineup of the whole 5 styles,that's been around for 20 years? Or the quality the OP has experienced?

Both.:thumbsup: I happen to really like the 20 year old styles versus some other wheels where people will do anything to try and be different. The quality on the 2 sets I own is second to none.

cencalc6 11-11-2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by elitecustombody (Post 378052)
Can you define "so dam nice "? Their huge lineup of the whole 5 styles,that's been around for 20 years? Or the quality the OP has experienced?

Another reason why people go with Fikse wheels is because they are alot cheaper then other manufactures....

elitecustombody 11-11-2011 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bigtime (Post 378068)
Both.:thumbsup: I happen to really like the 20 year old styles versus some other wheels where people will do anything to try and be different. The quality on the 2 sets I own is second to none.

Ask OP why he sent one wheel back

elitecustombody 11-11-2011 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cencalc6 (Post 378069)
Another reason why people go with Fikse wheels is because they are alot cheaper then other manufactures....

Hmm.. A lot cheaper than what other manufacturers?How much did you pay for yours?

6D9 Matt 11-11-2011 08:41 AM

Fact is... I am buying wheels based on the STYLE I like, and the quality. Obviously if someone likes the Fikse styles (I do as well) I maybe wouldnt care to wait longer in order to get what I want. Now this is a situation that obviously has been dragged out (and not acceptable), but I havent heard this happening often with Fikse.

Just saying... its whatever EACH consumer wants. Sure Fikse has a small amount of models to choose from compared to a lot of wheel manufacturers, but doesnt that speak volumes of how successful they are then?

Just saying... Id rather wait 8-10+ weeks for some Fikses that I want, rather than settle for some other wheel manufacturer that will get them to me in 4-5 weeks.

Flash68 11-11-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by elitecustombody (Post 378083)
Hmm.. A lot cheaper than what other manufacturers?How much did you pay for yours?

He is likely referring to their new retail pricing. They used to be pretty spendy average $4k+ per set, but now are about $1k cheaper since new management/ownership got it. At least this is what I have seen.

usa-69z 11-11-2011 01:21 PM

im sill waitin' 7/19th :willy:

please when these do turn up ,check and re-check for any marks or flaws as i dont want mine sent to me and have to play around sending 1 back to be replaced.. from Oz

4mm 11-11-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtime (Post 378068)
Both.:thumbsup: I happen to really like the 20 year old styles versus some other wheels where people will do anything to try and be different. The quality on the 2 sets I own is second to none.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6D9 Matt (Post 378091)
Fact is... I am buying wheels based on the STYLE I like, and the quality.


Just saying... Id rather wait 8-10+ weeks for some Fikses that I want, rather than settle for some other wheel manufacturer that will get them to me in 4-5 weeks.



I tend to agree with bigtime and 6D9 Matt. I have owned two sets of Fikse plus many Forgeline and HRE. My favorite multi-piece wheel is Fikse, in monoblok style it is HRE.

I am willing to wait the extra long time to receive the wheels as long as I am told BEFORE purchasing how long the actual wait will be. It's always better to underpromise and overdeliver than conversely.

nacnac 11-11-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 6D9 Matt (Post 376750)
I was hoping to get a set of Fikses in the next year or two... so hopefully they will have all this lined out by then. I will have to do some research before I pull the trigger.

Are you insane? You think this problem is going away? From what I'm reading, it's Fikse's standard operating procedure. The guy from Fikse said it himself, you get them when you get them. We're busy, blah blah blah. If you give us a deadline, we decide if we'll take the order, blah blah blah. I'd rn from these guys. There are way too many wheel company's out there that I'm sure would provide better service. And like another guy said, Jon, why don't you just stop selling their stuff if it's too much of a hassle? You're not doing it for free so the hassles must be worth the money you're making. Right?

Vegas69 11-11-2011 10:42 PM

Since it's now common knowledge, going down this path is a personal decision. They have some super sexy, lightweight wheels. They will probably continue quoting 6-8 weeks. If I was to order, I'd bank on 12-16 which is hard to swallow. Forgeline offers such great service. As much as I like the Fikse, after the sale support can be just as important. I KNOW Forgeline is there for me.

They do have a new owner and a reduction in pricing. Quantity and lower pricing may be a bad business decision. I hate to say it but quality may be the next hit. I've seen it first hand in this industry. They lower margins, need higher production, piss off clients, over work employees, and you can guess what comes next. I'd raise my prices until I can meet demand. If thing get slow, run a sale.

LS1-IROC 11-12-2011 06:52 AM

Fikse sure is getting bad mouthed over on Tech right now. You'd have to be insane to order wheels from them now. Too many high end wheel manufactures out there to be hooked on one brand. I hope they get their act together and get this ironed out cause by the sounds of it, they are losing current orders and future business.

usa-69z 11-12-2011 12:21 PM

yes and so they should :mad:

nacnac 11-12-2011 04:16 PM

gotta love the free market system.

Nova-Mann 11-12-2011 05:07 PM

15 weeks.
 
I just talked to Alan Baylis yesturday about the same issues I'm reading about here. He was saying that the forged centers were the issue and that there have been changes in the CNC programs that have held up production. I guess I have to take him at his word and pray to God that the quality of the product has not diminished due to the changes. It has been 15 weeks yesturday that I placed the order, and Alan thought production on the centers should start in a week or so. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt here, so we'll see.

bigtime 11-12-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nova-Mann (Post 378355)
I just talked to Alan Baylis yesturday about the same issues I'm reading about here. He was saying that the forged centers were the issue and that there have been changes in the CNC programs that have held up production. I guess I have to take him at his word and pray to God that the quality of the product has not diminished due to the changes. It has been 15 weeks yesturday that I placed the order, and Alan thought production on the centers should start in a week or so. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt here, so we'll see.

what wheels did you order?

GregWeld 11-12-2011 05:15 PM

I'd have canceled the order a long time ago.... And I'd have demanded my money back or jerked it back via the credit card... and would have ordered from somewhere else.

bigtime 11-12-2011 05:22 PM

i think what a lot of peole miss here is what if you really wanted a wheel they make and nobody else does? I wanted FM5 classics so what should i do if they take longer than expected?

GregWeld 11-12-2011 05:31 PM

There's like 10,000 DIFFERENT sets of wheels out there.... and today -- many of them look alike - and many are equal to or better than a Fikse... I don't want to start a nit picking argument about which one and blah blah blah --- but SUPPORTING vendors that don't do what they should be doing - just continues that problem for OTHERS... and the only way to show disapproval of that way of doing business is to stop doing business with them.

The definition of insanity -- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

elitecustombody 11-12-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bigtime (Post 378359)
i think what a lot of peole miss here is what if you really wanted a wheel they make and nobody else does? I wanted FM5 classics so what should i do if they take longer than expected?

I'm sure if you have the money, you can always find a company that can make you any wheel you want.

bigtime 11-12-2011 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitecustombody (Post 378362)
I'm sure if you have the money, you can always find a company that can make you any wheel you want.

thats not realistic but accurate

Coursey 11-12-2011 05:34 PM

Billet Specialties
 
This story sounds the same as what I went through with my Billet Specialties order.

Nova-Mann 11-12-2011 06:41 PM

Answer to bigtime
 
I ordered the mach5 in 17x8 and 17x11. I decided to go with the anodized center and polished outer. The quality better be there!

Nova-Mann 11-12-2011 06:48 PM

5789 posts?!!
 
Wow Greg! That's an impressive #. How many keyboards have you gone through?:lol:

usa-69z 11-12-2011 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nova-Mann (Post 378355)
I just talked to Alan Baylis yesturday about the same issues I'm reading about here. He was saying that the forged centers were the issue and that there have been changes in the CNC programs that have held up production. I guess I have to take him at his word and pray to God that the quality of the product has not diminished due to the changes. It has been 15 weeks yesturday that I placed the order, and Alan thought production on the centers should start in a week or so. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt here, so we'll see.

production of the centers should begin in a WEEK OR SO !!!

thats assurance for ya ! i feel sooo much better now :hail:

im goin on 16 weeks now and getting pretty close to cancelling unless i get the call/email in the next week :mad: :mad: :mad:

Nova-Mann 11-12-2011 06:52 PM

Yup.
 
I may have to reconsider myself.

usa-69z 11-12-2011 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 378358)
I'd have canceled the order a long time ago.... And I'd have demanded my money back or jerked it back via the credit card... and would have ordered from somewhere else.


would they try & hit us up with a cancelation fee ?????,,

surely not , If the wheels havnt even been started and not delivered on time its everyones right.

im keen to hear what everyone thinks of this.

nacnac 11-13-2011 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usa-69z (Post 378387)
production of the centers should begin in a WEEK OR SO !!!

thats assurance for ya ! i feel sooo much better now :hail:

im goin on 16 weeks now and getting pretty close to cancelling unless i get the call/email in the next week :mad: :mad: :mad:

I think the key word here is "should". I think you can interchange it with other words like "hope" or "might" or maybe two words like "might not". They've been so full of excuses up til now, what's a few more?

71RS/SS396 11-13-2011 05:44 AM

Threads like this are why I ordered my wheels from Formula 43 via DSE. Similar wheel, cost less, and 3 week delivery.

http://www.formula43.com/

GregWeld 11-13-2011 08:51 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


EXACTLY what I was saying above.... why would anyone pay in full in advance and wait weeks and weeks and get no answers and no product....

Sparks67 11-13-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 378452)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


EXACTLY what I was saying above.... why would anyone pay in full in advance and wait weeks and weeks and get no answers and no product....

It is a common problem with Group Purchases. People get a great price, but have to wait. I ordered some Baer Extreme 6S from TByne motorsports it took 5 months for the brakes. Cost was really low. I talked to several vendors and they all said that they couldn't do the same brake for that price. Every Group purchase there is always a long wait. Be prepared to wait months, and it doesn't matter on the vendor. Now my Fiske Wheels only took 3 week, but that was the old Fiske.

Jeff

GregWeld 11-13-2011 09:48 AM

Jeff -- Good info - but I'm pretty sure this was just a "factory authorized sale" not a group sale.

JMitch19 11-13-2011 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparks67 (Post 378466)
It is a common problem with Group Purchases. People get a great price, but have to wait. I ordered some Baer Extreme 6S from TByne motorsports it took 5 months for the brakes. Cost was really low. I talked to several vendors and they all said that they couldn't do the same brake for that price. Every Group purchase there is always a long wait. Be prepared to wait months, and it doesn't matter on the vendor. Now my Fiske Wheels only took 3 week, but that was the old Fiske.

Jeff

Problem is it wasn't advertied as a group purchase. They did not state that they needed a minimum number of orders to make the discount happen. After the "sale" was over they lowered retail pricing to almost the same prices as the "sale" prices.

Rumor has it another custom wheel company that doesn't have a problem delivering orders on time is willing to take your order at the same price if you switch.:_paranoid

GregWeld 11-13-2011 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usa-69z (Post 378424)
would they try & hit us up with a cancelation fee ?????,,

surely not , If the wheels havnt even been started and not delivered on time its everyones right.

im keen to hear what everyone thinks of this.


There are "consumer laws" that probably come into play here - no delivery of the actual product should be a "way out" of the transaction and I'd certainly check that out.


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