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Rybar 11-04-2011 01:52 PM

I think both centers would look good as long as there polished lips not black.

Track Junky 11-04-2011 02:05 PM

If I go polished lip, it almost seems like I have to go with silver just because of the contrast between polished and black.

I think I may be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

Vegas69 11-04-2011 03:00 PM

Print out the wheels and go stare at your car and slam a sixxer and we'll talk in the morning. :unibrow: :thumbsup: :lol:

Flash68 11-04-2011 03:04 PM

I'm starting to like the brushed center / polished hoop deal for your car.

Here are the GA3R's on a marina blue car with white stripes. Looks great in person.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...1&postcount=40

Track Junky 11-04-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 376887)
Print out the wheels and go stare at your car and slam a sixxer and we'll talk in the morning. :unibrow: :thumbsup: :lol:

Seriously Bro!! I'm starting to get a head acke. This is killing me!! I told the guy at Wheel Works I'd call him back in an hour with a decision and now I'm stuck again.

Going with a polished lip and silver center swings me over to the WC3R's.
I'm going to call him back and tell him I'll have a decision for him Monday.

Have to work tomorrow but I'll try and get a hold of you on Sunday.


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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 376889)
I'm starting to like the brushed center / polished hoop deal for your car.

Here are the GA3R's on a marina blue car with white stripes. Looks great in person.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...1&postcount=40

Dave, thanks for those pics. The GA3R's with polished hoop and silver center looks pretty damn decent!!

Only now my heads really hurtin'.:willy:

I think I'm going to go to Kinko's and get some real size photos and tape them to my car. :D

Vegas69 11-04-2011 10:32 PM

Dude, I"m telling you, take a week, two weeks, three weeks to figure it out. A wheel choice is a MAJOR decision. You aren't going to change them once they are done. Look at your car, envision the outcome. I'd forget what everbody has to say at pick your favorite wheel design, then figure out what finishes you want.

I have Blue Balz in my garage tonight. :D The all black wheels look good on Gonzo's car. Not sure about yours.....

Tom.A 11-04-2011 11:07 PM

I think any of Forgline's stepped style would look great. JMO I would pick these.
http://www.forgeline.com/product_ima...e_image-39.jpg

I also think your car would look nice and gritty with CCW Classic's
http://image55.webshots.com/55/7/76/...0KopvDM_ph.jpg

Vegas69 11-04-2011 11:15 PM

Tom, those are exactly the wheels I liked after looking at the site.

Track Junky 11-05-2011 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tom_a (Post 376935)
I think any of Forgline's stepped style would look great. JMO I would pick these.
http://www.forgeline.com/product_ima...e_image-39.jpg

I also think your car would look nice and gritty with CCW Classic's
http://image55.webshots.com/55/7/76/...0KopvDM_ph.jpg

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 376936)
Tom, those are exactly the wheels I liked after looking at the site.

Thanks Tom, those are definitely one of the top looking wheels and the same one's Todd is running. CCW makes some nice wheels and I went back to their site after D.G. mentioned it and Forgeline definitely has the better choices IMO.

If the Boze made a 10.5 in the Track wheel it would have been a no brainer for me. I talked to Zak, discussed the wheel width issue, and he gave me a great price. I have very limited room in the rear for a wide tire and decided I didn't want to deal with an 11" rim in the rear when I knew for a fact the 10.5's worked.

These are the Forgeline wheels I would have went with but they have been discontinued.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/a...1512290202.gif

Track Junky 11-05-2011 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 376934)
Dude, I"m telling you, take a week, two weeks, three weeks to figure it out. A wheel choice is a MAJOR decision. You aren't going to change them once they are done. Look at your car, envision the outcome. I'd forget what everbody has to say at pick your favorite wheel design, then figure out what finishes you want.

I have Blue Balz in my garage tonight. :D The all black wheels look good on Gonzo's car. Not sure about yours.....

Gonna have to go back to the Blue Balz project and check it out. Your are probably right, Wheel Works told me the lead time for Forgelines is typically 3-4 weeks. Dont know why I'm in such a hurry. My next track day probably wont be until May so maybe it's time to take a chill pill.

My honest personal opinion, the polished Torque Thrusts, although out dated and on my car for 10 years, looked pretty good. With those wheels on the car for so long it was hard to see a different wheel on it. I liked the look of the Vette wheels also, which tends to steer me to look for a similar style.

Track Junky 11-05-2011 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 376934)
I have Blue Balz in my garage tonight. :D The all black wheels look good on Gonzo's car. Not sure about yours.....

The black trim and tinted windows make those wheels look perfect on that car. Wouldn't work for me.

That thing is Bad Ass!!

LS1-IROC 11-05-2011 07:10 AM

Have you looked into the NewGen wheel line yet? They have some nice designs and offer some of them in a concave and deep concave forged centers if you like that look. I'm patiently waiting for my deep concave NewGen wheels to show up:unibrow:

Rybar 11-05-2011 11:21 AM

Haha just to throw a wrench in it take a look at this finish option, a nice alternative to black:

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...orgline-wheels

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e7...t/P1020636.jpg

Track Junky 11-05-2011 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1-IROC (Post 376958)
Have you looked into the NewGen wheel line yet? They have some nice designs and offer some of them in a concave and deep concave forged centers if you like that look. I'm patiently waiting for my deep concave NewGen wheels to show up:unibrow:

Hmmm......, nope, but I'm on my way now, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Rybar (Post 376971)
Haha just to throw a wrench in it take a look at this finish option, a nice alternative to black:

http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...orgline-wheels

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e7...t/P1020636.jpg

Ha Ha, very funny :lol: . Those are cool looking and I want black wheels pretty bad but I agree with what you said. With the chrome mirrors, bumpers, and bottom strip, polished lip is going to have to be the way to go.

Center colors is what I'm working on now and I dont think I will be going with black.

Flash68 11-05-2011 06:40 PM

G-man.... I know you are really trying to make black work..... you could always just make those white stripes black... shouldn't cost too much. :unibrow:

Black stripes would look bad ass with those Forgelines Rybar posted above.

Track Junky 11-05-2011 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 377023)
G-man.... I know you are really trying to make black work..... you could always just make those white stripes black... shouldn't cost too much. :unibrow:

Black stripes would look bad ass with those Forgelines Rybar posted above.

Already thought about it. Paint isn't out of the question but it wouldn't be stripes. I picked up an aluminum rear deck lid a few months ago and have a couple of other light weight goodies that will need to be painted also so it's going to have to go back to the paint shop anyways but lets save that up date for later. I'm having trouble enough trying to figure out what wheel.

If I go with polished lip and silver center for now I can always powder coat later.

DEIGuy38 11-07-2011 08:43 PM

Forgeline WC3s
 
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Hey Gaetano,

I live in Lincoln and have these WC3s with satin black centers and polished outers. If you want to try them give me a call we can work something out. I would hate to see you spend that kind of money and not be completely satisfied. I will pm you with my number. I looked at wheels for 5 years and finally pulled the trigger and I am very happy. Also check these out, they are WC3 with gunmetal centers on an orange 69. http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...WC3&highlight=

Guy

Track Junky 11-08-2011 12:31 PM

Thanks Guy, really appreciate your help. See you on Sunday.

Flash68 11-08-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 377535)
Thanks Guy, really appreciate your help. See you on Sunday.

What's Sunday? You talkin Goodguys?

Track Junky 11-08-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 377536)
What's Sunday? You talkin Goodguys?

Guy lives about 45 minutes from me and I'm going go over to his place and throw his WC3R's on my car to see how they look. They are polished with black centers.

Spiffav8 11-08-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 377538)
Guy lives about 45 minutes from me and I'm going go over to his place and throw his WC3R's on my car to see how they look. They are polished with black centers.

That's pretty cool. Post up some pictures for us.

Way to go Guy! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Track Junky 11-08-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 377540)
That's pretty cool. Post up some pictures for us.

Way to go Guy! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Definitely very cool of Guy. I'll post pic's Sunday.

Vince@Meanstreets 11-09-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DEIGuy38 (Post 377430)
Hey Gaetano,

I live in Lincoln and have these WC3s with satin black centers and polished outers. If you want to try them give me a call we can work something out. I would hate to see you spend that kind of money and not be completely satisfied. I will pm you with my number. I looked at wheels for 5 years and finally pulled the trigger and I am very happy. Also check these out, they are WC3 with gunmetal centers on an orange 69. http://www.pro-touring.com/showthrea...WC3&highlight=

Guy

now thats what im talking about....
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4392/img5649c.jpg

I didn't know you were local Guy, I assumed you were in NC...make sure you guys take a bunch of long distance pictures too.

Track Junky 11-09-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 377701)
now thats what im talking about....

Yup, I think thats the ticket. Just need to figure center color. Will see how black looks on Sunday.

DEIGuy38 11-10-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 377701)
I didn't know you were local Guy, I assumed you were in NC...

Why would you assume I was from NC do I type with an accent. HAHAHA. I am originally from Louisiana. See you Sunday Gaetano

intocarss 11-10-2011 10:58 PM

IMOHO polished with gold or gun metal center looks good against orange or red.... OR gold or gun metal center with semi gloss black lip

Spiffav8 11-11-2011 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 377727)
Yup, I think thats the ticket. Just need to figure center color. Will see how black looks on Sunday.

Yeah...that's a winner.

Track Junky 11-11-2011 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DEIGuy38 (Post 378031)
Why would you assume I was from NC do I type with an accent. HAHAHA. I am originally from Louisiana. See you Sunday Gaetano

Thanks Guy. Really appreciate your help. I honestly never thought picking wheels would be so hard.

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Originally Posted by intocarss (Post 378038)
IMOHO polished with gold or gun metal center looks good against orange or red.... OR gold or gun metal center with semi gloss black lip

Tell ya' what Jerry, Picking wheels and wheel colors is the hardest decision I have ever had to make for my car. $5000 doesn't come easy for a hard working guy like myself and going to 18's thats where I'll be with tires. Once the decision is made thats it baby!! To be honest with you, my first choice would be all matte black. Only because it feels more race style to me. My second would have something to do with bronze. I've always liked bronze. Maybe a semi gloss or gloss black lip with bronze center.

I still haven't nailed it down yet, but getting help from people like Guy is priceless. He obviously knows what I'm going through.


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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 378044)
Yeah...that's a winner.

Could be Curtis...could be. The WC3 is definitely a great looking wheel for my car but I'm also being challenged with the fact that my car is purpose built and according to Forgeline the GA3R is closer to their top racing wheel. That and the fact that I feel a 17" tire gives you more grip. Looks are important to me but performance comes first on the list.

Guess were both kinda' going through the same ordeal right now......decisions, decisions.

Spiffav8 11-11-2011 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 378047)
Could be Curtis...could be. The WC3 is definitely a great looking wheel for my car but I'm also being challenged with the fact that my car is purpose built and according to Forgeline the GA3R is closer to their top racing wheel. That and the fact that I feel a 17" tire gives you more grip. Looks are important to me but performance comes first on the list.

Guess were both kinda' going through the same ordeal right now......decisions, decisions.

It's never an easy decision, but well worth investing the time and effort to get exactly what you need/want. Way to much money to be unhappy with ones purchase. So be picky.

I pulled up pictures of the WC3 and the GA3R and...yeah I like both. If the GA3R is performance based, that wins the toss up. The one thing I like about it, is that it looks good in just about every color and finish combo.

I'm no expert when it comes to what wheel size is best for performance, but I used to fly with a guy who was huge into race cars and recall him saying that a 16" wheel was best for performance. Is that true....I have no idea, but you might right about running a 17" wheel giving you a bit more grip.

Vegas69 11-11-2011 08:11 AM

The whole small wheel argument is a weak one at this point in my opinion. A modern ZR1 comes with 20/19. Stielow has a 19/18 combo. You do need enough brake to control that wheel. In your case, you can fit a 14" rotor inside an 18" wheel if you choose to do so at a later point. I'd make sure you spec the wheels to clear C6 calipers. One other thing you need to keep in mind is the photos of the wheels are in larger wheels. Once you shrink them down to a 17", they look wrong. I do agree with tire cost at 17" but I'd still buy 18's. R888's aren't to bad. I shopped around and spent under a $1000 for my current set.

Flash68 11-11-2011 10:16 AM

Absolutely. I agree that 17" is minimum and 18" seems ideal these days with what tires are available and our cars seem to like to run either on unrestricted track days or these 200 TW events.

If you're married to a certain tire, then that can easily dictate wheel size.

I am not sure all the guys that run KDW's would actually run them if there were other good options for all those 18x10/18x12 combos out there...

Ron in SoCal 11-11-2011 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 378051)
It's never an easy decision, but well worth investing the time and effort to get exactly what you need/want. Way to much money to be unhappy with ones purchase. So be picky.

I pulled up pictures of the WC3 and the GA3R and...yeah I like both. If the GA3R is performance based, that wins the toss up. The one thing I like about it, is that it looks good in just about every color and finish combo.

I'm no expert when it comes to what wheel size is best for performance, but I used to fly with a guy who was huge into race cars and recall him saying that a 16" wheel was best for performance. Is that true....I have no idea, but you might right about running a 17" wheel giving you a bit more grip.

In speaking to Scott Main, the Ga3r is a lighter wheel. I do not know the exact load rating of that vs the Wc3, but the 3pc Wc3 is plenty strong. Something like 2000 lbs per corner. Lightweight wins everytime the way Gae drives.

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 378086)
The whole small wheel argument is a weak one at this point in my opinion. A modern ZR1 comes with 20/19. Stielow has a 19/18 combo. You do need enough brake to control that wheel. In your case, you can fit a 14" rotor inside an 18" wheel if you choose to do so at a later point. I'd make sure you spec the wheels to clear C6 calipers. One other thing you need to keep in mind is the photos of the wheels are in larger wheels. Once you shrink them down to a 17", they look wrong. I do agree with tire cost at 17" but I'd still buy 18's. R888's aren't to bad. I shopped around and spent under a $1000 for my current set.

Todd is absolutely correct on the size/looks. I saw a pic of the Ga3r in a 20 and fell in love. Asked Scott about it and he said the smaller wheel looks more 'compact'. Looking at the 17, even the 18 it looks a lot smaller and the spokes change the look iof the wheel. Of course, the Gwc and Gx3 came out about 30 days after I ordered my wheels! My favorite is the De3s, but only comes in 19 and above...

There will always be the MOI argument. J Parsons did a calc on 18 vs 19 and the numbers were really surprising. IIRC, something like 2/10ths per corner braking and accelerating, and 1200 lbs more of force required for just a single inch larger. Of course, you can always make up for that in HP....:thumbsup:

Track Junky 11-11-2011 02:38 PM

I was looking at NT-05's and they dont make a 315 in 18" but they do in a 17". Thats one good reason to go 17.

Brakes would be the next argument but if I go 17 I can always find a set of 6 piston brakes to fit. Aren't the NASCAR guys running 15 and 16" wheels?

Weight is another consideration. I thought I read somewhere that every pound of rotational weight is worth 20 lbs. 17" wheels and tires will most likely be lighter than 18.

Right now I'm thinking GA3R's in 17". They looked pretty good on that '68 that Dave G posted.

Either way, I'll pay a visit to Guy on Sunday and see how the cards fall after seeing how the WC3's look.

Flash68 11-11-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 378164)
I was looking at NT-05's and they dont make a 315 in 18" but they do in a 17". Thats one good reason to go 17.

Brakes would be the next argument but if I go 17 I can always find a set of 6 piston brakes to fit. Aren't the NASCAR guys running 15 and 16" wheels?

Weight is another consideration. I thought I read somewhere that every pound of rotational weight is worth 20 lbs. 17" wheels and tires will most likely be lighter than 18.

Right now I'm thinking GA3R's in 17". They looked pretty good on that '68 that Dave G posted.

Either way, I'll pay a visit to Guy on Sunday and see how the cards fall after seeing how the WC3's look.

Yep, I like Nitto line a lot. Very good value and good selection in 17's.

Those GA3R's I posted were 18's tho... 265 tire front and 315 rear. Falken 615.

Track Junky 11-11-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 378166)
Yep, I like Nitto line a lot. Very good value and good selection in 17's.

Those GA3R's I posted were 18's tho... 265 tire front and 315 rear. Falken 615.

I honestly dont think visually anyone will notice a whole lot of difference from 18 to 17. I mean were talking 1/2" all the way around.

Spiffav8 11-11-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 378164)
Weight is another consideration. I thought I read somewhere that every pound of rotational weight is worth 20 lbs. 17" wheels and tires will most likely be lighter than 18.

I'm sure there's a mathematical formula for that. Something about a spinning mass, p-factor and a train leaving Boston at 9:15am, but I have no idea how to figure that one out.

Vegas69 11-11-2011 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 378116)
Absolutely. I agree that 17" is minimum and 18" seems ideal these days with what tires are available and our cars seem to like to run either on unrestricted track days or these 200 TW events.

If you're married to a certain tire, then that can easily dictate wheel size.

I am not sure all the guys that run KDW's would actually run them if there were other good options for all those 18x10/18x12 combos out there...

It's got a lot to do with sponsorship. The ps2 is the 200 tread in those sizes.

Flash68 11-11-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 378190)
It's got a lot to do with sponsorship. The ps2 is the 200 tread in those sizes.

PS2 are damn spendy too.

Vegas69 11-11-2011 05:38 PM

I knew you were going to say that:unibrow: I agree!

skatinjay27 11-11-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 378168)
I honestly dont think visually anyone will notice a whole lot of difference from 18 to 17. I mean were talking 1/2" all the way around.

surprisingly enough just being one size bigger/smaller is very very noticeable. esp on the rear of a 69 with that square-Esq fender


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