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clill 03-25-2012 07:28 AM

I guess my issue with giving him all his money back is he is just encouraged to string along other people also. If there is no downside for him there is no reason to stop.

GregWeld 03-25-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 403202)
Hey Guys,

Need honest opinions here. Backstory is I recently sold a car that is in high demand - low mileage 1996 Porsche C4S. Found a buyer very quickly and executed a bill of sale on Mar 10. Received a $250 deposit via Paypal the day before. We had agreed on a $500 deposit, but Buyer stated that's all he had in his PPal account. Balance was to be paid via bank wire. Buyer stated daily that the wire was going out the next day for a week. Even had me re-send wire instructions twice. I had my banker on the look out for the wire every day. According to the Banker none was rejected. I gave the buyer various wire trace numbers he could use with his bank to determine where it went. I was never told what the results of the trace was, if ever conducted.

Buyer leaves the country. Sends me emails and texts from the UK but then drops off the map. This is after daily phone calls/emails prior. Last Friday, with no direct communication from him for a few days and no $$$, I send him an email to get in touch with me and let me know we are still on or I will move on. Still no communication from Buyer #1. Sell the car Sunday to the first guy that comes to look at it. Notify Buyer #1 it was a pleasure doing business but I have sold the car to someone else.

I should also mention Buyer #1 is a broker that sends these cars back to Germany as they have higher value there. I even spoke to his 'buyer' so I suspect he was 'floating' the transaction. I care not, as long as he pays me as we agreed.

Last Wed Buyer finally emails me back. Feathers ruffled. Totally confused on why I sold the car to someone else. Kind of comical at this point. This was after he dropped off the map for a week with no communication, even after my last note to him saying 'get in touch or I'm going to sell the car to someone else.'

I have email trails and text messages to back all this up.

He wants his $250 deposit back. I'm of two minds here. A deposit on a car is to hold it and consumate the deal. He did not execute. OTOH, I'm not into taking someone's $$$$, but everyone I speak with says his loss.

What say you??



I'd tell him "F'you... Strong letter to follow".


I wouldn't give him a dime.

Ron in SoCal 03-25-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 403577)
I guess my issue with giving him all his money back is he is just encouraged to string along other people also. If there is no downside for him there is no reason to stop.

Very good point Charlie.

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 403578)
I'd tell him "F'you... Strong letter to follow".


I wouldn't give him a dime.

Been waiting for you to show up. It'd be easy for me to be a tough guy on this Greg, but there are no actual damages. Yes, my time's worth something but the car sold as soon as I cancelled the transaction and showed it again. I even made a little more dough on the deal.

out2kayak 03-25-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 403577)
I guess my issue with giving him all his money back is he is just encouraged to string along other people also. If there is no downside for him there is no reason to stop.

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214Chevy 03-25-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 403589)
... I even made a little more dough on the deal.

....well...uh, ole Ronnie, ole pal...my bestest buddy in the whole wide world...can I borrow a few coins? I do need to buy those very expensive Michelin Pilot Super Sports for my wheels and I'm a little bit shawt. :_paranoid :_paranoid

Ron in SoCal 03-25-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 509Chevelle (Post 403613)
....well...uh, ole Ronnie, ole pal...my bestest buddy in the whole wide world...can I borrow a few coins? I do need to buy those very expensive Michelin Pilot Super Sports for my wheels and I'm a little bit shawt. :_paranoid :_paranoid

Ha, funny you mention that Marcus. New buyer of the car asked me to put new shoes on - his nickel of course. I got him some Pilot Sports. Local vendor got me them 10% over cost. The tab? $1650. Those suckers are not cheap!

Anyway Bro, I'll send you the old tires if you want! Slightly used Bridgestone S02s...:D

214Chevy 03-25-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 403615)
Anyway Bro, I'll send you the old tires if you want! Slightly used Bridgestone S02s...:D

Hahahaha. My man!! (Denzel Washington's voice from the movie American Gangster.)

Track Junky 03-25-2012 05:35 PM

I figured you'd give it back. I'd do the same. Nice guys dont finish last, we've just been in the game long enough to know it's not worth the head ache. But like I previously posted, make him earn it back. Make him piss, moan, and stomp his feet for awhile. Probably wont teach that moron anything but screw with him anyways.

fleet 03-25-2012 10:13 PM

Thanks for finally giving me my deposit back; and to all you guys who told Ron not to. :mad:





:lol:

Vegas69 03-25-2012 10:45 PM

PUUSSY:unibrow:

GregWeld 03-26-2012 06:17 PM

No reason for the deposit if it doesn't mean anything and the guy doesn't have to follow through....

elitecustombody 03-26-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 403798)
No reason for the deposit if it doesn't mean anything and the guy doesn't have to follow through....

DITTO!


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