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Sieg 04-26-2012 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bret (Post 410311)
I've had a couple of private comments about the size of my ass versus the size of that Kirkey seat.

My answer was that it would be lubricated with a kiss from their lips. :):):)

Well played Sir :thumbsup:

I certainly hope you're planning on some HQ action video of this car.
Cause I can't wait!!

Vegas69 04-26-2012 09:01 AM

The real question, are you building this for OUSCI?:unibrow:

GrabberGT 04-26-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bret (Post 410311)
I've had a couple of private comments about the size of my ass versus the size of that Kirkey seat.

My answer was that it would be lubricated with a kiss from their lips. :):):)

LOL... Im a little slow today... I actually imagined you instructing somebody to kiss the Kirkey seat. But that wasnt the point of the statement... Well played sir.

bret 04-27-2012 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 410316)
The real question, are you building this for OUSCI?:unibrow:

If nominated, I will run.

Jr 04-27-2012 06:47 AM

Car looks great.

I thought kit cars were not eligible for ousci...?

george@ridetech 04-27-2012 11:42 AM

There are now wires coming out of every opening on the car ... :)

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/1.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/2.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/3.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/4.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/5.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/6.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/7.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/8.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/9.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/10.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/11.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/8/12.JPG

57hemicuda 04-27-2012 12:00 PM

As always, another Ridetech over the top build, loving it Bret.

I do think the Factory Five cars are a great deal for the budget minded, of course you kind of blew that out of the water.

GrabberGT 04-27-2012 12:21 PM

Thats a sweet gauge setup but how much of that sweep on the tach do you really think you'll get to use? 15k would be awesome. Too bad you cant customize it.

intocarss 04-27-2012 05:33 PM

Great looking car

Jr 04-27-2012 08:26 PM

Who makes that tach/speed O?

Rick D 04-28-2012 04:20 AM

Man I want to see this one at some point this summer, just awesome as always :thumbsup:

bret 04-30-2012 06:24 AM

The engine ran for the first time at 7:32 pm Saturday night. Yep, its a race car. The 6 lb clutch allows it to rev like a cup car. Today we'll likely drive it at least around the block. Still to do:

hook up fans, headlights, turn signals, guages
re-bleed brakes
mount headlights
scale
paint seats
install harness tabs and harnesses
install doors, decklid, and hood
install remote charging terminals
radiator overflow
make breathers
get a real air filter
shifter boot
hook up power windows
rearend vent can
license plate light
license plate mount

Possible testing on Wednesday. Hope so, we need to race on Saturday!

I'll try to get some video up later today.

Busy...bye!

bdahlg68 04-30-2012 06:38 AM

also very curious to see that speedo integrated... definitely a sexy piece...

coolwelder62 04-30-2012 08:15 AM

Congrat's Bret.Another BA car out of the rideTech shop.:thumbsup:

george@ridetech 04-30-2012 10:04 AM

Here is that video of the 33 starting up:
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/9/a.jpg

Music to my ears!

And here are some pictures from this morning:

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/9/2.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/9/3.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/9/4.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/9/5.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/9/6.JPG

OLDFLM 04-30-2012 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by george@ridetech (Post 410548)

Where did this go??? :_paranoid

strtcar 04-30-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJW32 (Post 410630)
Who makes that tach/speed O?

http://www.kosonorthamerica.com/new/...er-gp-style-4/

george@ridetech 05-01-2012 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDFLM (Post 411177)
Where did this go??? :_paranoid

We initially had problems with the gauge displaying oil pressure and voltage readouts. We had a Racepak sitting around and we are a little more familiar with that system.


So much has happened in the past day or so...

The guys got the wheels back on the car
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/10/1.JPG

New fabricated Ridetech V8 Logo on the valve covers
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/10/2.JPG

Machines drilling away at some custom made headlights
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/10/3.JPG

Seats were painted
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/10/4.JPG

Some more drilling on the headlights
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/10/5.JPG

Ridetech Triple Adjustable Coilovers are on the car now
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/10/6.JPG

The creator with his creations
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/10/7.JPG

Custom made heel rest, helps a lot
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/10/8.JPG

Puting the trunk lid back on
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/10/9.JPG

The car at our company lunch which was just minutes ago
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/10/10.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/10/11.JPG

The car is driving and operational (for the most part), just finishing up the details now!

camcojb 05-01-2012 11:15 AM

what was that spark/flash when it first fired? What a great car, really turned out fantastic.

Rick D 05-01-2012 06:56 PM

What an awesome looking car way to go! :hail: Question who makes the wheels and where to you get them from? They look nice.

1Michel 05-01-2012 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 411429)
what was that spark/flash when it first fired? What a great car, really turned out fantastic.

I wondered about that too, a loose wire maybe?

waynieZ 05-01-2012 07:46 PM

The car sounds great. Well done.

Vegas69 05-01-2012 08:40 PM

I'm going to say header leak.

Car looks great!:thumbsup:

george@ridetech 05-03-2012 12:01 PM

Posted a teaser video on youtube of the 33' running. Still got some kinks to work out. The car is at the track right now doing some more advance tests.

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/video.jpg

wiedemab 05-03-2012 12:10 PM

ummmmmmmm - - looks kinda fast, I guess..............:faint:

I can't wait to see this thing run in person. Kind of bummed I won't be able to come down to see it run this weekend.

millertime179 05-03-2012 07:20 PM

that thing is a pissed off go kart! LOL way to go guys, looking forward to seeing it on the track. :thumbsup:

BBC71Nova 05-03-2012 07:36 PM

Planning to make Nashville goodguys?

george@ridetech 05-08-2012 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC71Nova (Post 411906)
Planning to make Nashville goodguys?

It should be there :thumbsup:

The car is currently on a lift, as the build team is planning their next move to fix some problems that were discovered this past weekend. The OEM FFR steering is having trouble with the load of the 295mm wide tires on the front. There is also that spark scatter problem. But it all should be resolved before Nashville where it will get some serious autocross time.

The car did make it to the Battle at the Banks event Saturday, though it did not run in the event. It attracted a lot of attention even though!

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/11/1.jpg

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/11/2.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/11/3.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/11/4.JPG

Ron in SoCal 05-08-2012 09:16 AM

Hey George - Brett was talking at one point about testing the new Carbon springs. Did that ever get past the idea stage?

george@ridetech 05-08-2012 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 412805)
Hey George - Brett was talking at one point about testing the new Carbon springs. Did that ever get past the idea stage?

Hey Ron, haven't talked with Bret yet so he may chime in with a different answer, but I think its a sure thing. It's more a question of when. We'll probably keep the shocks and springs we have on it now until car is tuned the way we want and then switch over to air or carbon springs for testing. It might be a few months.

The springs are something along these lines: http://www.hypercoils.com/bellows-springs.html

bret 05-10-2012 08:31 AM

Well, we have resolved the spark scatter problem. It was just a rotor phasing problem...no big deal, but took a few hours to identify.

The steering problem was a little tougher. The OEM FFR steering system was apparantly intended to turn a narrow tire. We are using a 295mm tire. When I turned the wheel you could watch the rack visibly flex. It would encounter a significant bind at around a half turn of input. The size of the rack components was compounded by the rear steer configuration, very short steering arms, and the incorrect placement of the rack itself. Totally unacceptable.
After more research and conversation we have decided to cut bait on that system and redo it completely as a front steer Woodward power rack. This will allow exact placement to optimize bumpsteer and Ackerman, as well as providing tuning capabilities for feel. The Woodward components are true racing components that are completely capable of withstanding the forces imposed on them by this car.

I had assumed that FFR had designed this steering system anticipating this kind of use and had not paid a lot of attention to it. After encountering problems I called my friend Chris Alston who was a seriously good source of valuable information. He then referred me to Tony Woodward who spent a couple hours filling me in on the finer points of rack and pinion steering systems. Tony is a classic example of "paying for a degree in steering and getting his parts for free". Knowledgeable, articulate, friendly, experienced, realistic, and able to relate to whatever level of driving you are attempting.

Now we get to spend a few DAYS sawing the frontend off the car and installing a proper steering system. I still hope to make it to Nashville next weekend.

Don't get me wrong...I'm not blaming FFR completely for any of this. Their system would likely work fine with their recommended tire sizes in a "civilian" environment. Obviously we are working with neither. My aggravation is only with myself. I should have not assumed that this part of the car would be any less customized than the rest of it. I should had examined, evaluated, and fixed it months ago.
We will fix it now. It will be cool and fast. Its what we does.

JKnight 05-10-2012 08:36 AM

Very cool Bret. I love the overall vibe of this thing. I would love to get one of these things in the future. Maybe a "done" car I can tweak to my liking.

You guys planning on offering a solution for this steering situation?

bret 05-10-2012 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JKnight (Post 413299)
Very cool Bret. I love the overall vibe of this thing. I would love to get one of these things in the future. Maybe a "done" car I can tweak to my liking.

You guys planning on offering a solution for this steering situation?

Well...let me get this one done first:)

In reality, the FFR 33 is a real decent start on a racecar. The basic chassis is solid and the body panels fit fine for a racecar, and its light. IF [and this goes for any Camaro,Nova, Chevelle, Mustang, etc] you want the next level of fit, finish, and function...then you'll have to step up for investing in more hours be they yours or another shop's. We have about 3000 hours in this build. Although we have built many cars, this is the first FFR car.

Would I build one again? Yes, but for me I would likely just buy the basic body and chassis...that's all we used from the kit anyhow. I also think their kit contents would be just fine for the guy who didn't want/need the build level we were trying to acheive. They are trying to address the guy who can't/doesn't want to design or fabricate ANYTHING...and they do a good job of that.

I've tried to document this build as "real" as possible. That means exposing all the problems as well as the successes. Without the problems [that everyone knows exist with any project] the successes have no credibility. Some things we changed to solve little problems. Some things we changed to make it look better. Some things we changed to solve big problems. Everyone can come to their own conclusion about which is which.

The end result is going to be a light car with a bunch of horsepower and tires and handling to match. Ya gotta love that!

Flash68 05-10-2012 10:42 AM

Thanks Bret. I always enjoy reading your articulated posts.

george@ridetech 05-11-2012 11:40 AM

The new steering rack came in today. It looks beastly! Should solve our problems. Inner door panels are done.

Here are some pictures from this week:
http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/12/10.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/12/6.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/12/8.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/12/9.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/12/11.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/12/12.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/12/13.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/12/14.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/12/15.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/12/16.JPG

waynieZ 05-11-2012 07:19 PM

The rack definitely looks rugged!

camcojb 05-11-2012 07:39 PM

Bret,

the car is turning out great. :cheers:

Jtomas801 05-11-2012 07:54 PM

Car looks great, I hope to see it run in person one day.

Quick question, are those adjuster knobs on the reservoirs a new addition to the coil overs you are selling? could they be added to an older set of T/A coilovers?, or are they one off custom pieces?

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/12/15.JPG

Thanks,
Jon

george@ridetech 05-15-2012 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jtomas801 (Post 413693)
Car looks great, I hope to see it run in person one day.

Quick question, are those adjuster knobs on the reservoirs a new addition to the coil overs you are selling? could they be added to an older set of T/A coilovers?, or are they one off custom pieces?

Thanks,
Jon

Hey Jon, they're new adjuster knobs we are working on. I'm not sure if they will come standard or as an options (I think the latter). Unfortunately they cannot be retro fitted to the current adjuster knob style, it has to be "rebuilt". More details on them will be released pretty soon.

On the 33... The Rack is still being installed, its taking some time to get it to fit right. We had to move the grill/radiator a couple of inches.

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/13/1.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/13/2.JPG

One of our guys finished up the interior door paneling, really pleased with it!

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/13/3.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/13/4.JPG

http://www.ridetech.com/images/forum/33-ford/13/5.JPG

onevoice 05-15-2012 07:54 AM

Are you still planning on having it at the Goodguys event in Nashville? I sure would like a ride.


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