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GregWeld 05-09-2012 07:53 PM
Like most things --- most of the time it's really not the equipment but the hands and mind controlling it.

Some very good shots are taken with some pretty inexpensive stuff...

Don't get me wrong -- equipment is what we all live for. Just sayin' that just as Scott just showed us - you don't need a studio to take studio shots. A cardboard box - a cheap lightbulb and some fiddly fooling' is all that is required.

I did take about a 1000 shots at a Formula One race -- with borrowed lens from my semi pro buddy... that I would never be able to get without the lens. And I know a couple of those were in the 1000's of dineros but the best stuff I got was because he guided me in the set up.

DFRESH 05-09-2012 08:50 PM
Scott, when I have more time, I'd love to learn more about photography. Did you pick this up as you went, or have you made some concentrated efforts (ie taking a course, read a book)? It's amazing how great those pics of your car are--I also remember some of a trip you took (hiking I beleive) and those pics were also very well done. Would like to think I will one day have the time to have another hobby.

Doug

Shmoov69 05-09-2012 08:53 PM
WoW!! awesome pics Scott..AWESOME!!:hail:

Vegas69 05-09-2012 08:53 PM
He's posting his handy work on Facebook as well. And I'm not talking about cars only. Photography is one hobby I enjoy.

Spiffav8 05-10-2012 02:24 AM
More amazing work. My favorite is still the skateboard action shot.

Thanks for sharing.

Scorpner 05-10-2012 04:02 AM
Cool stuff Scott. Makes me want to get back into photography again. :thumbsup:

XcYZ 05-10-2012 04:41 AM
Thanks again, everyone! I really appreciate it! :cheers:



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Originally Posted by DFRESH (Post 413221)
Scott, when I have more time, I'd love to learn more about photography. Did you pick this up as you went, or have you made some concentrated efforts (ie taking a course, read a book)? It's amazing how great those pics of your car are--I also remember some of a trip you took (hiking I beleive) and those pics were also very well done. Would like to think I will one day have the time to have another hobby.

Doug
Doug, I haven't ever taken any photography classes. I've learned a lot just by shooting a ton and for a very long time. I've always loved photography and I've always been the guy that was carrying a camera with me all the time, even back in the film days. What's helped me personally is, say, when I shoot 600 images at SEMA, but I only pick out 60 to share online or with friends - I really look at why I picked out those specific images vs. the rest of the lot. I try to analyze what makes those specific selections better than all the others, then the next time I shoot, I try to do more of what those were and less of what I rejected. I do that every single time I shoot. I think another thing that has helped me develop is by using consumer bodies and lenses. They have shortcomings, and by having to work with, around, and fully understanding the character flaws and sweet spots that we have to work with, we become better using them. It's the same as any other tool, really.

Ah, you're talking about the how I spent my summer vaction thread. It was a great day with the family and really explains why I love having a camera with me. :)

chr2002ca 05-10-2012 08:31 AM
Holy sheep sh_t. Those are rediculous photos Scott. You're ready for prime time with that camera and car of yours. :hail:

Chad-1stGen 05-10-2012 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by XcYZ (Post 413179)
Actually, it's the opposite. You don't need much of an investment to produce this shot. I used a tripod, but a 5 gallon bucket upside down would be the perfect height. I used a $13 wireless remote, but you can just get a friend to hit the shutter release for you instead. I used a 3rd party wide angle lens for the shot, but only because I couldn't get far enough back inside my 2 car garage - with enough distance between you and the subject, you could use the kit lens. My light source was a 40 watt light bulb with an extension cord dragging behind me. Stick the light bulb in a long, narrow box and open a the long side that's facing the car, and cover the opening with a white sheet to diffuse the light. Set the camera to Manual, stop the lens down to f/14 (don't forget to pre-focus then turn off AF so it doesn't hunt when all the lights are off in the garage), use a 20" shutter speed, then dial in the exposure with the ISO. I started at ISO100 and ended up at ISO200. That will all very on how fast you walk, how difused the light is, how close the light source is to the car, etc. You can't have ANY light leaks in your box, and you can't have ANY light coming into your garage.

So you don't need a whole lot to reproduce this shot. The most important part is having a camera that you can use in Manual so you can control the ISO and aperture.
thanks for taking the time to explain some of that. Any idea if a Canon T3i can do those kinds of settings? I assume photoshop or similar is a must to touch up the shots afterwards right? Those aren't they way they came out of the camera are they? Finally, I'm having trouble picturing the set up. Are you walking with the light in front of the camera? Sorry for noob questions but I love your photography and wouldn't mind learning a bit how it all works since my wife recently got a T3i which I understand is a pretty good camera (lenses are a whole nother ballgame though).

Sieg 05-10-2012 10:12 AM
Chad - Here's a good site to review: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos600d/19

Your T3i is no slouch, it put's you in the "more the Indian than the arrow" situation IMO.

XcYZ 05-10-2012 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Chad-1stGen (Post 413312)
thanks for taking the time to explain some of that. Any idea if a Canon T3i can do those kinds of settings? I assume photoshop or similar is a must to touch up the shots afterwards right? Those aren't they way they came out of the camera are they? Finally, I'm having trouble picturing the set up. Are you walking with the light in front of the camera? Sorry for noob questions but I love your photography and wouldn't mind learning a bit how it all works since my wife recently got a T3i which I understand is a pretty good camera (lenses are a whole nother ballgame though).
The only work I did was to the floor. I lowered the exposure on the floor as it took away from the car. The rest is straight out of camera.

I'm not familiar with the T3i so I looked it up. Yes, absolutely you can do this same setup with that camera. I'm guessing you have at least the kit lens? 18mm will do the job if you can get enough working distance. Stop it down to at least f/14 and start at ISO100 with a 20 second shutter speed. If you don't have a remote shutter release or convince your wife to do this in pitch black, just use the self timer.

Remember, all you're basically doing is painting the car with light, so just think about how to direct your light source to produce the shadow effect that you want. :thumbsup:

XcYZ 05-10-2012 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad-1stGen (Post 413312)
Sorry for noob questions but I love your photography and wouldn't mind learning a bit how it all works since my wife recently got a T3i which I understand is a pretty good camera (lenses are a whole nother ballgame though).
Oh, and one other thing - since you have an dSLR and are interested in learning how to do more/get creative with the camera - go buy/order the Canon 50mm f/1.8 II lens. It's only a little more than $100 for that plastic fantastic prime lens. Pop that lens on, go to aperture priority and set it wide open at f/1.8 and go track down your kids and/or pets. :thumbsup: Just remember that you zoom in by stepping forward and zoom out by stepping back. :D

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...0mm_f_1_8.html

MaxHarvard 05-10-2012 07:30 PM
All you need now Scott is a slew of SB900's ;)

Vince@Meanstreets 05-10-2012 09:42 PM
ok scott i'll need a few of those in high high res please!!!

XcYZ 05-11-2012 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ratman67 (Post 413389)
what makeand model wheels are those, thx, rm
They are Boze Lateral-g's. :thumbsup:



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Originally Posted by MaxHarvard (Post 413441)
All you need now Scott is a slew of SB900's ;)
I know EXACTLY what direction your thinking, and I totally agree! :D But that's such an investment for so little use. It would be fun though.

jski67 05-11-2012 04:48 AM
Awesome shots! Your photography has always been great.

I picked up a d5100 last year and am slowly getting better, but definitely need to practice more.

Since we're talking cameras, check this out...
http://www.red.com/products/epic

I co-own a video production company and our Epic just came in a couple months ago. It's so awesome. We can shoot 5k raw images at 96fps (!) with a camera thats a little bit bigger than a dslr. Groundbreaking stuff!

My focus is really on the post production side of the biz, but being around all these cool cameras has definitely inspired me to shoot more :)

Anyway, again, great shots!

Jason

MaxHarvard 05-11-2012 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by XcYZ (Post 413514)
They are Boze Lateral-g's. :thumbsup:





I know EXACTLY what direction your thinking, and I totally agree! :D But that's such an investment for so little use. It would be fun though.
I use about 4 or 5 of them on every shoot . ;)

XcYZ 05-11-2012 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxHarvard (Post 413519)
I use about 4 or 5 of them on every shoot . ;)
My subjects are always in motion (well, other than my parked car, lol), so I can't justify that expense/investment. Useable ISO 12,800 is a must for me though. ;)

But on the topic of the speedlights, what are you using to control them?

MaxHarvard 05-11-2012 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XcYZ (Post 413521)
My subjects are always in motion (well, other than my parked car, lol), so I can't justify that expense/investment. Useable ISO 12,800 is a must for me though. ;)

But on the topic of the speedlights, what are you using to control them?
Speedlights can freeze motion with 1/1000 or even higher shutter speeds ;)

Just saying.

I use alien bees radios, used radio poppers a while back, but those are pricey to trounce around in the dirt with.

XcYZ 05-11-2012 05:38 PM
I've done some HSS stuff and it works well, but for what I normally like to shoot, flash just doesn't work.

MaxHarvard 05-11-2012 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by XcYZ (Post 413665)
I've done some HSS stuff and it works well, but for what I normally like to shoot, flash just doesn't work.
You should look into the work of David black, he does speed sports flash work that is killer.

pro-touring.no 05-12-2012 02:19 AM
Wooowww
 
:) Just awsome:bow:

uppster 05-12-2012 05:11 AM
Photos like that make me want to hide all of mine. First photo was breathtaking.

GHOSTDANCER 05-16-2012 08:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DFRESH (Post 413221)
Scott, when I have more time, I'd love to learn more about photography. Did you pick this up as you went, or have you made some concentrated efforts (ie taking a course, read a book)? It's amazing how great those pics of your car are--I also remember some of a trip you took (hiking I beleive) and those pics were also very well done. Would like to think I will one day have the time to have another hobby.

Doug
http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/live_...mmersion.shtml

http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/live_...hop_main.shtml

skatinjay27 05-16-2012 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxHarvard (Post 413668)
You should look into the work of David black, he does speed sports flash work that is killer.
wtf? lol
he wrote and directed this

markss28 05-17-2012 11:02 AM
The word of God says its a sin to lust after another mans wife. But i read nothing about his car. Absolutely awesome!

cmraman 05-17-2012 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxHarvard (Post 413519)
I use about 4 or 5 of them on every shoot . ;)
Why so many. I've only had 3 for years, and one was stolen recently so I'm down to 2.

MaxHarvard 05-18-2012 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cmraman (Post 414988)
Why so many. I've only had 3 for years, and one was stolen recently so I'm down to 2.
Trying new stuff, light inside, underneath, sides. A lot of my shoots happen in dark places, just nice to have a little extra at times. :)

Mainly use 2-3 most of the time, more if I want to light a person and the car or car and background... Just to mix it up.

MaxHarvard 05-18-2012 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by skatinjay27 (Post 414613)
wtf? lol
he wrote and directed this
*SNIP*
I can't personally attest to that. LOL but here's his workshop stuff that's pretty good reading material.

http://www.daveblackphotography.com/...p-at-the-ranch

waynieZ 05-18-2012 11:03 AM
Awesome job on the pictures Scott. I love the first one.

-Freak- 05-18-2012 12:27 PM
Nicely done Scott! The first image needs to be printed out and put on a wall.

89 RS 05-18-2012 09:14 PM
Those are some amazing pictures Scott!

muscle69 05-31-2012 05:32 PM
Wow! That first image is awesome!!!

samckitt 05-31-2012 05:43 PM
Those look great. What settings you use on the camera, lens, aperture etc?

Gandalf 06-06-2012 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by XcYZ (Post 412989)
For something different, I did a setup shot of the car in the shop using a tripod, remote shutter release, a 40 watt light bulb in a box, with a shutter speed of 20 seconds. With the shutter open, I walked down the side of the car holding the directional light. I should have put the window up! lol

http://www.gulbransonphoto.com/FredM...4-D7K_6583.jpg
Outstanding result Scott! Awesome shot!

G.

glassman 06-06-2012 09:01 PM
C'est Manifique!!!!!

So maybe I missed this, nothing in the backround like a black cloth, just a 40w in a box? Wow, so cool....

I love love this car btw....

V8TV 06-11-2012 04:35 PM
Nice work Scott!

Love the long exposure with low light stuff. Have you seen the Lost America site? Light painting with LEDs, gelled flashlights, whatever... you could rock this stuff.

http://www.lostamerica.com

http://lostamerica.com/wp-content/up...pear008.wp.jpg

V8TV 06-11-2012 04:37 PM
Another Lost America pic.. fun stuff!

http://lostamerica.com/wp-content/up...pear411.wp.jpg


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