Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 456222)

What are you talking about and who are you talking to? I think you are confused here.

I am laughing at Todd's statement -- not you -- Todd and I are friends.

Of course JCG or DSE will not build you a car like that for what Todd did. Todd did most of the work himself. Apples to oranges.

And I have no idea what you are talking about with your effing... road race... 1000hp comment... I was referring to Greg's comment about how well (or not well) that TTG did at Optima.

I am not against you here.

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 456236)

No one here is trying to flame you, we are just trying to bring you into reality. I can be very frugal with my money as well, but there are some things you simply can't cut costs. Building a 1000hp motor is not something that can be done on a budget. I suppose you could build it with subpar parts, but its just gonna be a one-hit-wonder...One and done...Get my drift?

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 456242)

Chevy on Chevy crime :D

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...psdd2ac992.gif

Originally Posted by FETorino (Post 456264)

I don't like power adders myself but a friend of mine made over 1000hp on an FE with a supercharger and drove it to second place in Drag Week in 2007. Something like 2500 street miles in a week.

Oh with a carb.:P

http://fepower.net/Dyno%20Results/dyno_results_4.html

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 456130)

Josh Kalis' twin turbo Camaro is putting out 1000 horsepower, and he drives it on the street all the time, but he doesn't road race or autocross it.

Originally Posted by irishlsxer (Post 456266)

wow thats insane. I bet that thing drank bathtubs full of fuel. from hot rod drag week 07? car?

Originally Posted by irishlsxer (Post 456232)

OF COURSE, ANY STREET RACING I DID WOULD BE IN MEXICO:thumbsup:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 456274)

So you'd prefer to be in a Mexican prison?



Are you any relation to George? AKA G-Man?

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 456274)

So you'd prefer to be in a Mexican prison?



Are you any relation to George? AKA G-Man?

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 456274)

So you'd prefer to be in a Mexican prison?

Originally Posted by irishlsxer (Post 456279)

lol so no street racing, then? k, i apologize. I was simply musing. I wouldnt street race.

Originally Posted by irishlsxer (Post 455496)

You bring some great points. Let me be a little more specific. First off my intentions were never to autocross the car at the 1000 hp level. The mere notion of that is simply ridiculous. In fact Rarely will it ever be driven at that level, however we WILL make something very close to 1000 on pump gas just to say we did, period. I also have friends with 700-800hp cars and we all haggle each other about whos faster stoplight to stoplight, plus im planning on a few standing mile events, so occasionally it will see max boost. I confess im still on the fence about the power adder, but I dd an a&a'd Vette in the summer with just a cam'd ls2 and an upgraded radiator that makes 600whp at 9.5psi and NEVER GETS A SMIDGE HOT OR HAS ANY TROUBLE, period, so I already know that the 600-700hp range über reliably is easily doable with a centrifugal, although obviously not creating the even power throughout the range that a roots will make.

For the record, the breakdown goes something like this: 30% autocross, 40% cruiser (including some longer trips: power tour-ish type things), 20% speciality events like the Texas mile and possibly some higher speed road course and race track type stuff later on. And last, 10% show car; i don't really care about that right now. I'll probably just attend the local shows that are close and convenient. Personally when I think of people talking about regret in "driving their showcar" it mainly refers to the 20k paint job. And I'm completely avoiding that for now. I'm going to save the details for a possible build thread later, but I digress.

I definitely agree with most of what you're saying, but then again I would never build a 150k car with a carb'd motor either:P. So truly, to each his own. Honestly my end goal is pretty much what you said, verbatim; to build something that can handle whatever I throw at it. I guess im really trying to just bake my cake eat as much of it as i can. I'd be an idiot if I didn't agree that there will be bumps in the road along the way, but I feel like I've got a pretty good handle on it. Im just digging the ability to pick some great brains here as I go. Do you miss your car yet? I wish I'd have had enough to just dump it on yours all at once, it was way more than worth what you got for it. Then again I know i would've cringed every time I looked close at that mirror black paint after an event

Have you seen the Kenne bell liquid cooling systems? Ive talked to Jeff at Tpe there in Vegas a few times since kb started drilling cooling holes in those and he spoke highly of them

Originally Posted by irishlsxer (Post 456270)

I wondered how hard on his kalis really was and how much street time it got really. So a 1000hp tt setup like that stays cool enough to dd apparently as long as youre not pushing it hard?

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 456313)

You have previously stated that you want to road race the car. I've chimed in but I can tell you are simply looking for approval of your ideals. Good luck....

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 456323)

Daily driving it isn't a problem. High horsepower custom built turbo setups will never offer maintenance free operation for thousands of miles, especially when being pushed hard. There are so many components in the drivetrain that will be strained that you will probably always be fixing something. Josh's car is perpetually evolving and receiving various upgrades to make it 'better.' I think it is just the nature of that particular beast. If you're building the car for the 60+ mph roll racing that is popular today, either legal or illegal then you probably need your 1000 horsepower to partake in today's automotive equivalent of a d*** measuring contest. If that kind of racing isn't your main concern you can build a much more reliable engine that is easy to drive on a road course of autocross.

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 456337)

How do I unsubscribe from a thread..... :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 456337)

How do I unsubscribe from a thread..... :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by makoshark (Post 456353)

My thoughts exactly

Originally Posted by irishlsxer (Post 456335)

Roll racing my be **** measuring but if you're going to try to convince me that doesn't go on around here or on the autocross scene, I not buying it. Even friendly measuring is still measuring. My general question was simply Are there no options that include a setup that can do both with a different tune, pulley, boost level, etc??

Originally Posted by irishlsxer (Post 456351)

:willy:lol Don't leave Greg. R u not entertained?! At this point this thread has reached ridiculous proportions. I'm just feeding the fire.

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 456361)

Kid,

(hey, you said you were young)

String us along and lead us on your hunt for the golden egg all you want, but just be respectful in general. This is not one of those yelling and trash talking forums that are all over the place.

Matt is young and might be similar in age to you but notice how well behaved he is (most of the time) and respectful he is. Take a cue from him.

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 456359)

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. It happens all the time, and everyone around here has a pretty good time doing it. Just look at the banter between Rob and DG about their FE vs SB2 numbers showdown. I've decided roll racing isn't for me, and as long as only the people who want to be involved in it are involved in it, then I don't really take up issue. We all have our interests and they all come across as equally nonsensical to people with different perspectives.

Like most of us here you're interested in building an old car that is more than a one trick pony. Building something like this is all about comprise, and if you share what is most important to you, we might better be able to pool our collective knowledge to figure out each part effects another so that you can choose which comprises you want to make.

Originally Posted by compos mentis (Post 456371)

...but no one was injured. ;)

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 456377)

Yep.

Originally Posted by LS1NOVA (Post 456773)

I didnt read through all the banter but..

Id bet most of the guys here dont have personal experience autoxing a turbo LS car.

Ive ran my 71 Nova at several auto cross tracks, small and 1/2 mile. It makes 800whp via a 76mm on a 5.3, soon to be more. Turn it down and it drives just like all the rest of the 400-600hp cars out there doing it now. Put coolers on everything like I said and its all good.

The 1000whp GTO I mentioned on the first page is run under all conditions. Stop and go traffic, autox, open track road racing.

Ive driven all different types of cars and power levels but there is nothing quite like running around with a car that drives like a stock and then turning up the boost when a Hyabusa is next to you on the freeway and putting the smack down. I highly doubt you will regret a TT LS combo unless you competively road race all the time.