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byndbad914 03-28-2013 06:14 PM

I happened across this thread tonight - I had no idea you were building a full frame racer as well. We are moving in slightly different paths - you are going toward full race and I am moving back toward some race, some street. I had a new 10 GS Vette for a bit and had to sell it because every rock chip drove me batsh!t crazy so I learned I like 'em a little ugly and fast, not shiny and fast, as well. :thumbsup:

I love the DTM stuff as well and thought about doing something like that with the Nova - when I found myself needing to narrow the front track to get the 12" tires in there I thought about pulling the whole fender out and just adding a 2" step at the rear of the front fender, similar to your rendering. Going that route with a Camaro should be pretty wild looking. I would stick with a rough look as you suggest you might for awhile - I don't plan to paint the Nova until I have a fair amount of track time on it and have done some sorting, because part of sorting tends to be a few off-track excursions that are hell on paint and low altitude front splitters. I have mowed a fair amount of lawn with my 914's splitter and my fiberglass nose has some damage to prove it :lol:

As for that thrift store, holy hats Batman! I have never seen so many hats in one place in my life, let alone calipers. Those AP brakes are certainly nice.

Subscribed - between your thread and a few that others that are posting here have going, I should get plenty of ideas for changes as my car progresses.

Stovebolter 03-28-2013 06:47 PM

That's going to be a sweet project Payton. I'll be watching this?

David

coolwelder62 03-28-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 472416)
Says the guy who named his car after a really bad Mel Gibson movie. :lol:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps94bf46ee.jpg

Hey,I liked that Movie.LOL!!!! Payton, Sorry I missed your thread until now.

fleet 03-28-2013 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 472727)
Hey,I liked that Movie.LOL!!!! Payton, Sorry I missed your thread until now.

Mel Gibson/Payback > Chevy Chase/Fletch.

lol

sixnina 03-28-2013 11:57 PM

This car is gonna be badass I can't wait to see this one.:thumbsup:

Payton King 03-29-2013 08:25 AM

Thanks guys
 
This one is definitely going to be on the edge of being street car, but if you not living on the edge you are taking up too much room.

XLexusTech 03-29-2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 472776)
This one is definitely going to be on the edge of being street car, but if you not living on the edge you are taking up too much room.

If it has License plates and DOT glass, its a street car... IMHO>..:dance:

Payton King 03-29-2013 08:35 AM

Here is another rendering
 
that someone did that got me thinking about the DTM style...almost made me do a Cuda that Ron had.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5a9f1cd5.jpg

mdprovee 03-29-2013 09:26 AM

Love the direction you are going with this. Both "renderings" are cool!!

Beach Cruiser 03-29-2013 11:03 AM

Looks good! See if you can build it to fit the NASA Outlaw Vintage specs so we can play around on the track some in the next year or so. Don't plan on painting mine anytime sone, Flat black fenders are easy to bolt on an blend in with the rest of the car! LOL

byndbad914 03-29-2013 03:58 PM

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5a9f1cd5.jpg
now that is pretty awesome, has the front fender pushed out like I was mentioning. I am not a fan of the latest, really choppy rear shaping on the cars - I am sure the aero is important but at the same time, loses a little form for the sake of function. You are killing me Payton - I really want the Nova to look like a sleeper and have stock body form but now I am starting to think I should pull the fenders out front and rear :D Running the exhaust down behind the rockers and dumping out like a sidepipe would be fricken cool tho'

Jr 03-29-2013 05:32 PM

Payton,
Can't wait for this car to make some progress. Very cool.

Payton King 04-04-2013 10:53 AM

I have been out on Spring Break with my kids
 
Will get frame photos posted up soon.

There will be a lot of mock up before I settle on any body mods, those renderings were just giving me idea. Tim, it would be tough not to have a wide body something after the 914.

crille_hallden 04-04-2013 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 472454)
Matt is about right on the video. I have 2 boys 10 and 13 and I have listened to that song about 1 million times to and from soccer practice. It does fit though. First time I went to that guy's storage building I had a specific amount of cash in my pocket to get a gas pedal. Once I was there I knew I was going to be short on cash. Next time, I had more than $20 dollars and I was poppin' tags.

Lots of used NASCAR and circle track re-sellers in the area. He is just one of many. Next time I go up to Roush /Yates I will get some photos. Imagine a Home Depot, but with race parts filling the shelves. Motors on pallets stack in the shelves, entire car on one isle. It is crazy.

As soon as I figure out how to do the questions in quotes it will be easier to answer specific questions. Before I started the build, I was going to get a Howe road race front clip and run the 5x5 hubs and all the circle stuff.

Tough to be creative with a name for a project when I am not creative enough to do something other than a Camaro. It is a little goofy to name you car or project anyway, but how else do you keep your seperate from the others? "I am the guy doing the 1st gen Camaro on the site." Yea, that narrows me down to about 1000 projects. LOL

Somebody asked about NASCAR brakes. Kind of...using an AP calliper used in circle track with a lug mount on a floater with a Grand National hub in the rear. I will post up some pics later on that one.

The yellow car was on the Cover of Camaro Performers and had an 8 page spread. April of 2009 (Thank you Mr. Rupp!)

As far as paint, you may be looking at it. Going to replace the roof so it will be in primer, may leave the rest of the car as is until I get it sorted. It will be a wide body, but may cut out the fenders and quarter dirt track style for a season.

This is my inspiration photo/drawing

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...onking/DTM.jpg

Is it a Swedish flag on the car?

Best regards from Sweden... :-)

Payton King 04-05-2013 08:06 AM

Yes it is a swiss flag.
 
The guy that did the drawing is from there I believe. I think his name is Zonder?

Payton King 04-05-2013 08:11 AM

Frame shots
 
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps52feb71e.jpg

Ron in SoCal 04-05-2013 08:49 AM

Money shot! :thumbsup:

Payton King 04-05-2013 09:27 AM

more
 
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8657aa9c.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...psc496eb4f.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3a0d9330.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...psb9425805.jpg

Payton King 04-05-2013 09:30 AM

more
 
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3579192e.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps16b64505.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps69ef5705.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps455b4950.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...psb0e60ffc.jpg

Payton King 04-05-2013 09:32 AM

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...psefb7fe31.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...psde92a76d.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...psd6e87d2f.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...psb31df0cc.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps455b4950.jpg

Payton King 04-05-2013 09:34 AM

contol arms 1 inch longer than stock C6
 
http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps33d59e54.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8ff060fb.jpg

Sieg 04-05-2013 10:02 AM

The fire is lit! Really like the all business approach of their design and fabrication. :thumbsup:

Track Junky 04-05-2013 02:51 PM

Way to hit the ground running Payton. :thumbsup:

cencalc6 04-05-2013 03:15 PM

Excellent job on the frame

fleet 04-05-2013 04:01 PM

Gonna be a track beast. :cool:

waynieZ 04-05-2013 04:57 PM

Very Nice Payton!

syborg tt 04-06-2013 06:15 AM

Payton

This car is going to be really cool. I agree with no more show cars make them so you can drive them. I don't want to have to worry about scratches or nicks on the car.

Payton King 04-08-2013 09:28 AM

This has been going on for a while
 
Figured that I would get some work done and not stretch the build thread out for 2 years.

I got some mock up engine parts from my friend Jim Pettigrew, who works for Hendrick and did some work on the yellow car. These parts were sent up to Jake. SB2.2 heads from a blown up Cup motor, the motor plate is mine that I got from Hendrick. Mock up oil pump and a set of tri-y style stainless headers from I believe Jimmy Johnson's car. They are made by Pro Fab. 5 gallon Peterson oil tank.

So my thrift shop buys are the oil tank, headers and motor plate.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...pscb594119.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...psd883a0f6.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...ps539f62f7.jpg

Ron in SoCal 04-08-2013 09:36 AM

Awesome Payton! Any idea if the headers will actually fit or do you need to mock up and see? Where's the oil tank going?

Payton King 04-08-2013 09:42 AM

Hey Ron
 
Oil tank will be in the trunk or rear seat area.

Headers are up there to see if they clear. I can get different Y's and a different merge collector if needed as they all slide on. More concerned with floor clearance. They should clear everywhere else or with a small amount of additional fab work. Figure these new are $3600 and I can get them for $600...way cheaper than having a custom set made.

Flash68 04-08-2013 10:57 AM

You know I like your style Mr Dead Cat. :lol:

What are the dimensions of that tank (when you get a chance)?

sik68 04-08-2013 12:17 PM

Can't wait to see this one come together!

GrabberGT 04-08-2013 12:24 PM

"this is ****ing awesome!"

Please ensure you leave enough room for the sound system to play this on continuous loop. Never heard it before but...




Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 472417)
... And I'm sure this is what Payton named his car after. :lol:

When I saw the title this immediately started playing in my mind.



Payton King 04-08-2013 01:11 PM

Tank
 
is pretty big....22 inches by 9 inches. Although they call them a 5 gallon tank(total volume), you normally run about 3 gallons in them.

Ummgawa 04-08-2013 02:37 PM

Hey Payton,

This is going to be a wicked ride. If you are through Atlanta again, give me a holler.

Jim



Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwelder62 (Post 472727)
Hey,I liked that Movie.LOL!!!! Payton, Sorry I missed your thread until now.

Me too! One of my favorites! There are two versions and one does stink, but the one where he blows up the bad guys, that's the the good one.

sixnina 04-08-2013 02:43 PM

Very nice work
 
If you don't mind can I ask what size rect. tubing did you use for the the frame rails and the round supports?
Shane

57hemicuda 04-08-2013 05:40 PM

I can tell just by looking at the tubing its 2x4 tubing, looks like Jake snuck a piece of 3x4 in there where the core support bolts on,and 2x3 for the trans crossmember. Don't know for sure, but looks like 1 3/4" round tubing on the center there. I'm running the same front clip on the AMX I'm building.

I really like the minimal nature of Jake's frame, keeps the weight down knowing that there will be alot of cage work holding it all together. Loving this build so far.

Payton King 04-09-2013 06:14 AM

Ron is correct
 
The 2x3 for the torque arm crossmember was done like that so when I run 3 inch exhaust it will not hang below the frame...Jake's idea

Payton King 04-09-2013 06:19 AM

Another thrift shop purchase
 
Magnesium Quarter Master bell housing, flywheel, Tilton tri-lite throw out bearing, Quarter Master 7.25 triple disc clutch and billet starter....$500 for all.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...gandclutch.jpg

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/...esIMG02070.jpg

GregWeld 04-09-2013 07:47 AM

I must have gotten drunk and missed this thread! WTF.....


Love the direction Payton!


This is gonna be fun! And I like Swartz's (did I get that spelling right?) comment about cheap = fun.... Every time I see the Mustang I bought from Charley -- I think -- Dude! That's the most fun in the shed - and also the cheapest!


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