Surprisingly enough, they do. I tried to get a good spot at this auction. They said I applied to late, but they'd give me a way late or early time, or Sunday. No way....

Check my fb page for pictures Steve. It was built resale ready.. ;) .

Maybe it's just me, but this years auction looks kind of week in terms of high end customs/pro-touring cars. Friday usually has some heavy hitters. I'm just not seeing it this year.

I agree with Greg, I think alot of times it's a "who you are" type of deal. Just google some of the VIN's. Most of those cars have already been to BJ a few times, Mecum, ebay, dealers, etc. Alot of "been around the block" a few times cars. And you can tell who the dealers are when you see 5+ cars in a row all with the same backgrounds.

John Parsons Nova will be there, along with a bunch of others from the same seller.

I think the opinions here are pretty reasonable about car worth or possible price you could reasonably assume.

What price range are you thinking the car will bring?

That may give you some idea if your sweating taken the car there.

EGG SACK LEE -- and anyone that thinks otherwise is a fool ready to be parted with his money. My buddy takes 30 plus cars there (my Nomad will be one of his sales this time) and he is at EVERY BJ auction with a bunch of great cars (sales wise)… both as a buyer and a seller. THAT is who they care about.

They have to run 900 plus cars through there --- do ya really think they're all going to have prime time Saturday slots?? Somebody's car has to run first on Thursday and somebody's car is going to be the last one on Sunday. And if you think you're going to get top bids with those time slots - then :gitrdun:

I know when JF sold the yellow Chrysler wagon he ended up with prime time Saturday at about 6 and it was sold heavily all week prior. and still took a bath considering it was a great 8 can west coast custom of the year GG custom of the year I think. anyway Ron Pratt bought it (stole it) because no one else wanted it at 175,000

He STOLE a Chrysler wagon at 175K ? Who cares if it is a great 8 car. Yes that means it was a good car but the market for specialty cars like that is thin. Where else can you get 175K for that car ?

Agree… When they're full customs like that -- it's not what it cost to build -- it's who else wants it - and can afford to pay…

What would that Chrysler sell for on Ebay ?

1. OP question- Great time slot, My WAG- $125-140K
2. Mule vs. this car. Tough call. personally I think the mule will do $225K if people really know what they are looking at. If I had the coin, I would hands down buy it for it's historic value to our nitch in the market. However, that isn't an option.
3. Blake, I have the right picture to use in your sales promotion, just needs the caption.... "Only driven on Sundays!"

Only if he can get it started…:D

OUCH! :weld:

Oh yeah…. Putz's are like that….


:slingshot: :mock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bottom line is a majority of cars around here are worth a whole lot less than the owner thinks. Your dream, baby, passion doesn't mean a damn thing to anybody else. Sure a car like the mule has a pedigree but who around here is going to barrett to bid?

There just isn't big money outside of an auction for a pro touring car. 999 out of a 1000

And it wouldn't hurt if Mike Joy would educate himself about pro touring cars. He usually doesn't get real excited over a custom car, unless it's a nascar. After all, he's the guy holding the microphone...

That's part of the challenge! #1 you have to get NOTICED --- and people have to start talking about your car - and getting other people to go check it out… and the seller is going to have to be there and suck up all the stupid ass questions and go over every detail about half a bazillion times (if you're lucky enough to get that kind of interest!) --- to a lot of people that don't even have bidder passes… but you have to be nice to EVERYBODY and tell the story and sell the car over and over again… because that one guy that you thought was a bozo --- (think about that Ferrari hat wearing schmuck that was the "rep" for the real buyer of the $4 million dollar Oldsmobile//Corvette proto) might just be a real bidder. Remember it takes at least TWO if not THREE people that want YOUR car. The retailer/resellers in the crowd ARE NOT going to bid your car up -- unless, of course, they're your buddies.

They're not perfect, but realistically, he's there to entertain the armchair quarterbacks at home, not to educate the bidders that are there.

As far as promotions go. One thing that really varies between Barrett and Mecum, is Mecum starts to fill and promote their big auctions months before the event. For the "Catalog" cars, they send a professional photographer to you, to take quality photos of the car. They'll also run ads in magazines about specific cars that are going to be there. As for BJ, it's about a month until Scottsdale, and there are a lot of cars that still don't even have a picture on their website. BJ consignments are all placed by Steve Davis, and can take weeks. Mecum will call you in a few hours with a lot #.

Interesting comparison.

When we ran the ZL1 through Mecum in April in KC, they wouldn't give the car the time of day. Dana himself, after I introduced myself and showed him the car said... "Hmm, interesting car" and turned and walked away. The TV guys never once asked me anything about the car, even though it was parked 9 cars away from the stage all weekend long.

Velocity was at COMMERCIAL when the car crossed the block, they came back to live when it was off the main stage but the bid was still raging on.

BTW, the car was the high bid car of the auction. Came pretty dern close to hitting the reserve too...in KC...in April.

You just never know, like said above...all it takes it two people that both want the car.

There are MANY prime slots beyond just Saturday between 6 and 8. Empirically, there are HUNDREDS of prime slots across multiple days -- not five slots or twenty. Do the math.

As for the Mule, go to Scottsdale and watch how hard Lillard works to educate each and every potential bidder on its features and provenance. He does that for each car he brings. I've never seen anything like it. ..and always with a smile. It's work.

It will sell.

If that is your goal your in the right place.

Lance. What ZL1 were you selling ?

Actually Steve I'm not sure how much time I will be spending with the Mule. Alot of auctions to check out that week.

I'll re-read Mark's book on the Mule and babysit it for 'ya. :D

Definitely. In my case, I would of took a few different times. But they only offered me late spots surrounded by driver quality type cars IMO. And I wouldn't want bidders wondering why BJ didn't give the car a good spot. If I would of consigned it earlier, I'm sure I would of had a much better chance at getting a good spot. Gary Bennett told me it's basically first come first serve, but I'm sure they make exceptions to that.

They gave me a great spot at Vegas a few years back, but that's Vegas.

Friday afternoon and evening slots do really well, atleast they have the past 2 years when ive been there. And Tv don't show 1/10th of whats going on. Its a lot different in person than on tv. its nonstop from opening till closing.

It's not my car, it belongs to my business partner...but I have been involved with the car every step of the way for the past 15 years or so.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=43943

It'll be Lot 1083 at Barrett Jackson, Friday mid day to evening I believe.

It's a gorgeous car. The interior's amazing. I missed the whole build. Do you still have it?

You can borrow my cloning machine. Though it doesn't work quite right. Good luck with the auction and see you there.

Thanks Steve, the '67 Camaro? Yeah, I still have it, just finished it.

Just my .02 I agree with most of what is being said here. It sounds like the car has a good spot. I am taking my El Camino to Barrett-Jackson as well, I know what I have into the car and I know what they sell for on the "street". I am prepared for what it gets, hi or low. I made the decision to do it because once the papers and car are there it is "sold". I don't have tire kickers giving me the noise about "let me think it over", or "I saw one just like it for half the price", etc.
I am selling it because I am ready to move on. The Chevelle is close to done and I have other projects I want to do as well. These cars are only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. We have all seen the HUGE numbers on t.v. and we all hope that we can get it as well. Its like gambling or the lotto, some are going to win and some are going to lose, but if your not prepared don't play.
On a side note, I hope to see and meet a couple of the members here.

I agree with that, like rolling the dice.

I think you have a good spot, good luck.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...ln=499&aid=525

I sold my Nomad to a buddy that is in the business… and he's taking it to BJ -- along with probably 25+ other cars. This is A LOT OLDER restoration -- but I put good parts on it and had a lot of fun with it over the 14 years I had it. I think I put 5 motors in = 3+ transmissions - couple different brake systems - tubular A arms etc - which then made me realize how nice they "can" drive --- so stuck a Jim Meyer chassis under it (Art wasn't making them at the time!). Art M was bending the rails for chassis for Jim… and he was the one that actually sent me to Jim Meyer. It was Jim Meyer or the stock/corvette conversion from Paul Newman..

My choice was to completely re-do the car - top to bottom - or move on to something different. I think in your mind once you're done - you're done. I loaned the car to my brother in law and he drove it the last couple of years… so that kind of tells ya where I was at on it.

It has - by far - the best motor I've ever owned. It's the perfect street beast… big torque in the bottom right off idle -- but is a window rattler and set off alarms in parking lots. I love that!

I figure the car will sell for about a 1/3rd what I put into it over the years. LOL


And NO! Those are not my wheels and tires...



http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...n=1363&aid=525

I think that one of the keys to going to Barrett (or any other auction) is to be honest with yourself about your expectations and not to get to caught up in the games that some folks play there. Before you even make the decision to head to BJ you have to accept that the car is going to sell. The notion that you can always eat the fees and buy it yourself if you don't make the number is great but if you really think that is your backup plan then you're not being realistic with your expectations - the math doesn't work. It's up to you to do your best and you're off to a great start with a good spot and a great car. Bret V, for example! did a lot of marketing before and at the show with the RideTech Camaro and it paid dividends. Make an effort, maximize your exposure and move on to the next car.

Truer words have rarely been spoken Mr. Weld. Love the nomad - very cool car - but it kind of pales in comparison to what came after - you have to love progress!

Thanks, I am ready to move on. Always a little nervous though....

Nice 56. I think the 2nd paragraph says it all Greg. The sale price compared to investment over the years can be misleading at times. The cars are a hobby and for fun and enjoyment. You go to Vegas, Disneyland, Etc. you rarely get back what you put into the trip financially (someone who is in the car business is different, but they still lose at times). The enjoyment and memories are what your really paying for. I am sure some will disagree, just my opinion and how I accept it. When one sells hi or low I have something for the next project
Now that have said this mine will sell for a nickel and I will be off in some state depression...:headscratch::twak:

In the same vain as the original post, I have been looking to sell my motorcycle that I have built. Link here:

http://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2...TION-111263329

I got a auction slot for Wednesday in Scottsdale 2014. Obviously it's hard to predict and since there aren't any really comparables wanted to get a sense if you all thought I could get a good return on it. I bought it for 9k brand new, and have put about 10k into it, I was hoping to get at least 15k or more. With it being such a smaller price point I was curious to get some more knowledgeable and experienced point of views.

Thanks.

In a response to Charley Lillard….








Oh gawd! Just shoot me….



HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

No matter what it is, it has to appeal to 2 or more people enough to bid on it. With a bike you hoping to clear 15k or more on, Barrett Jackson would never give you a prime spot. I have seen the absolute worst cars at Barrett Jackson bring 3k. So there is a buyer for every car. Even this one.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...x?ln=3&aid=424

I don't see this car listed anymore. Change of heart? Too bad, with that prime spot I bet it would have brought good money.

No I ended up not taking the car. Which I am glad I don't think this was the year for Camaros.

Mustangs
 

Agreed, Seemed to be the year of the mustang ...

Having the Shelby book with the records helps sell those cars. People buying the mustangs, Shelby stuff will always be pretty strong because of the records or lack of that make a buyer more educated on what the car is. Especially at an auction. The camaros, chevelles are so faked these days that it scares the heck out of people spending big bucks for supposed original numbered stuff.

BJ and crew are very educated on Shelby's, another reason they are strong there.

As far as the pro touring stuff, I think which ever camp your in do well and are pretty competitive. The camaros have an edge IMO because the mods were out way sooner.

According to the paper all the auction houses that week were up in sales. One Ferrari sold for over 8 million. Wow.

Congratulations Greg Weld. Your Nomad is the 3rd best selling 56 Nomad of all time at Barrett-Jackson. ..And the best selling car is one of those hand- hammered Foose thingies from 2005 without a shred of 56 Nomad DNA. So if you drop that one-off car as a realistic "comp", yours is the second highest selling 56 Nomad behind a car that only fetched $2K more.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...ln=1005&aid=51

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...=990.1&aid=403

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...n=1363&aid=525

Wonder if the Foose Wagon runs as well as Greg's 32?