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rickpaw 03-13-2014 06:41 AM

Looks like a wrong coolant was used? Wonder what those spots are on the cylinder wall.

U-turn 03-13-2014 08:27 PM

This continues to get worst. I would rebuild it.

65_LS1_T56 03-14-2014 02:30 AM

FWIW, my 98 LS1 that had 172,000 on it looked almost identical when I tore it down. After a simple rebuild, cylinder hone and a crank polish, new bearings and rings, it's working great. Mine even had the 806 perimeter bolt heads like those, which ended up in the aluminum scrap bin as they aren't worth anything. Found a set of cheap low mileage 241's on craigslist to replace them. Not the best either, but the price was right and they looked new.
A Compcams trunnion upgrade will take care of the rockers too. Good luck, cool project!

rickpaw 03-14-2014 03:58 AM

You should check to see how much it cost to rebuild the engine vs buying a crate. It may be cheaper to rebuild it.

GregWeld 03-14-2014 04:21 AM

I've had several motors rebuilt -- and have also bought "crate" motors (if you consider (Smeding Performance a crate motor - which I do). It - like most things - comes down to QUALITY - and QUALITY doesn't come cheap. In order to get the costs down - production has to rise - or corners have to be cut. And like most things -- it all depends. Depends on how you plan to use it. Frankly - you don't need much of a motor to cruise around to car shows... you need a completely different build if you want to hammer it on the drag strip.


A really DECENT motor is the HO350/350 from GM.... you can get one complete carb to pan - including distributor and spark plugs even (the distributor needs to be recurved!!) for very little money. Smeding Performance has some variations of horsey power and use -- also pretty affordable and complete.


Some crate engine builders actually offer a warranty - nice peace of mind....

Or a simple rebuild or yours... like RickPaw pointed out - just do some comparison shopping.

rickpaw 03-14-2014 04:35 AM

Another thing to check is warranty from rebuilt engines vs GM crate engines. GM crate engines have 24 month warranty (there maybe fine prints). Rebuilt engines may not have warranties. My engine builder said when I picked up my rebuilt short block/heads years back that I have a 10 step warranty (10 steps out the door then I'm on my own).

n77nxc 03-14-2014 06:00 AM

Thanks for the input guys.

Has anyone ever dealt with Thompson Motorsports near Dallas. I ran across this engine package:

http://www.thompsonmotorsports.net/p...havmsf2qptjvm7

n77nxc 03-14-2014 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-turn (Post 541545)
This continues to get worst. I would rebuild it.

I'm taking the positive attitude on this one….its getting better because now I can tell the wife I "need" a new motor. Haha! :thumbsup:

Evan Iroc-Z 03-14-2014 07:30 AM

I have heard of Thompson, never dealt with them directly, but reviews have been positive.

On that motor, I am not entirely sure I would want to take a 5.3 and bore it out to 5.7. I know the iron 5.3s have thick cylinder walls and can take it, but I have always been against enlarging cylinder walls, just to enlarge them.

For the price you are going to pay for that one, why not look for a completely stock 6.0 with low mileage. If you search hard enough you will be able to find one with under 10K miles, that technically hasn't even been broken in yet, for less than the 5.7 you are looking at.

Your car, your money, just my opinion.

NvrDun71 03-14-2014 08:18 AM

Check out the Texas classifieds section on ls1tech. There are a few ls1's for sale on there now. Short block and long block configurations pop up for sale fairly often. Rebuilding seems to get expensive quickly, unless your planning a stroker or big power I would look for a low mileage 6.0 as mentioned above, prob your best bang for the buck

rickpaw 03-14-2014 08:33 AM

How about a GM Performance LQ4 crate?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/na...1857/overview/

Most of the bolt on stuff from the LS1 will work (intake/fuel rails/injectors/water pump with spacers)

Shark Racer 03-17-2014 07:26 PM

IMO - I'd stay aluminum. Although the extra bore of an LQ4 gets you into some wicked awesome heads, and probably will be cheaper overall.

...I don't know, I'm torn in my own post. :(

May make sense to cost out rebuilding vs crate. Price is probably going to be better overall on an LQ build, not to mention once you go to the 4" bore you can get some real awesome heads. It's something I've thought about doing on my truck (06 Avalanche 1500) many times...

n77nxc 03-18-2014 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickpaw (Post 541608)
How about a GM Performance LQ4 crate?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/na...1857/overview/

Most of the bolt on stuff from the LS1 will work (intake/fuel rails/injectors/water pump with spacers)

I like that motor...definitely on the radar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark Racer (Post 542139)
IMO - I'd stay aluminum. Although the extra bore of an LQ4 gets you into some wicked awesome heads, and probably will be cheaper overall.

...I don't know, I'm torn in my own post. :(

May make sense to cost out rebuilding vs crate. Price is probably going to be better overall on an LQ build, not to mention once you go to the 4" bore you can get some real awesome heads. It's something I've thought about doing on my truck (06 Avalanche 1500) many times...

I'd stick with aluminum if I was worried about weight but that isn't an issue with my build. Cost basis on an iron block is better than aluminum. However, if I run across a deal on an aluminum block motor, you better believe I will snag it over the iron.

gearheads78 03-18-2014 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n77nxc (Post 541585)
Thanks for the input guys.

Has anyone ever dealt with Thompson Motorsports near Dallas. I ran across this engine package:

http://www.thompsonmotorsports.net/p...havmsf2qptjvm7

I had never heard of them until the other day and it might just be a one time fluke but here is my experience.
I saw a stroker moter come out of a crate and had visible aluminum chips where something was ground on after it was assembled and there was a sandy grit all in the motor (beads from a blast cabinet?) I just know there is no way in hell it would ever be put in my car without a complete dissasembly, cleaning and inspection.

n77nxc 03-18-2014 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gearheads78 (Post 542185)
I had never heard of them until the other day and it might just be a one time fluke but here is my experience.
I saw a stroker moter come out of a crate and had visible aluminum chips where something was ground on after it was assembled and there was a sandy grit all in the motor (beads from a blast cabinet?) I just know there is no way in hell it would ever be put in my car without a complete dissasembly, cleaning and inspection.

Wow...I'll have to ask Kyle about this. Thanks for the input.

n77nxc 03-21-2014 09:24 AM

6.0 LQ9 motor ordered!

Shark Racer 03-23-2014 09:37 PM

Wheels up! :D

n77nxc 03-24-2014 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark Racer (Post 543060)
Wheels up! :D

:D :G-Dub:

Holley 302-2 pan ordered

Shark Racer 03-28-2014 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n77nxc (Post 543086)
:D :G-Dub:

Holley 302-2 pan ordered

Maybe in a couple weeks I'll unveil my latest project for my 78 'vette... talk about :G-Dub:

Even I'm starting to think I'm a little crazy.

n77nxc 04-21-2014 10:24 AM

No major updates at the moment.

Below are a bunch of pics I found of the car, in various stages, prior to me purchasing it.

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2810...cb020494_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2830...861c9c28_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2858...e1e8079b_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2863...384f6263_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2863...57857edd_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2875...cc647740_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2887...a34bb58a_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2900...067cb663_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2907...f570e3f8_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2918...caef1fef_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2922...b4cf45ae_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2922...60e6b5cd_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2929...7824f7dd_b.jpg
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2933...e60372ae_b.jpg
https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3665...ba3d2aa8_b.jpg

n77nxc 04-21-2014 11:06 AM

New engine (LQ9) showed up:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7271/...c93abd81_c.jpg

Here are some pics of the body:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3823/...82c8eed2_c.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7003/...bba45732_c.jpg

n77nxc 05-14-2014 05:46 AM

Sneak peek at the color:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7378/...07a5de68_b.jpg

rickpaw 05-14-2014 06:19 AM

The car will look great with the new color. What color is that?

n77nxc 05-14-2014 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickpaw (Post 550567)
The car will look great with the new color. What color is that?

Cyber Gray...thanks bud!

rickpaw 05-14-2014 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n77nxc (Post 550568)
Cyber Gray...thanks bud!

I almost painted my car with that color. Great choice.

n77nxc 05-14-2014 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickpaw (Post 550569)
I almost painted my car with that color. Great choice.

Now I am deciding on wheels:

Option 1:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7375/...2049eab4_o.jpg

Option 2:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7445/...c1b8043d_o.jpg

tubbed69 05-14-2014 09:38 AM

Option 1 for me,only please yourself on your build:thumbsup:

gearheads78 05-14-2014 10:11 AM

Color looks great. I vote for option 2 on the wheels.

ArisESQ 05-14-2014 03:03 PM

I vote either #1 or:

http://www.rotiform.com/images/produ...ck_sna_01b.jpg

In the proper finish, an ultra wide set of monoblocks would look unreal!

n77nxc 05-14-2014 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubbed69 (Post 550606)
Option 1 for me,only please yourself on your build:thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by gearheads78 (Post 550610)
Color looks great. I vote for option 2 on the wheels.

Option 1 was my first choice but the Liberty Walk 458 had option 2 at SEMA. Both are really nice looking wheels. Cost is the same. Decisions decisions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill steez (Post 550654)
I vote either #1 or:

http://www.rotiform.com/images/produ...ck_sna_01b.jpg

In the proper finish, an ultra wide set of monoblocks would look unreal!

The SNA's are really nice looking wheels. However, I really dig the look of a step lip.

n77nxc 05-14-2014 07:22 PM

Engine shot:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7336/...d13971a3_b.jpg

I should be bringing the body home this weekend. Here is a shot of the hood, doors, trunk lid and rear spoiler:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7375/...00e25740_b.jpg

Excuse the cell phone pics. I'll get high res DSLR pics once the body is home.

Vince@Meanstreets 05-14-2014 10:18 PM

nice work!! opt 2 looks awesome!!!!!

n77nxc 05-17-2014 08:34 PM

Got the body home today.

My son was happy to see the car home. The car will ultimately be his one day.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2904/...6a92aa90_b.jpg

Che70velle 05-17-2014 08:47 PM

The picture says it all. Priceless.
Nice car too!

tubbed69 05-18-2014 03:16 AM

Car looks great,really like the color:thumbsup:

Jay Hilliard 05-18-2014 05:59 AM

Paint looks awesome. Love the color. Red interiors look great with cyber gray. Check out the 2014 corvettes with that combo. :thumbsup:

n77nxc 05-18-2014 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Che70velle (Post 551130)
The picture says it all. Priceless.
Nice car too!

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubbed69 (Post 551142)
Car looks great,really like the color:thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Hilliard (Post 551148)
Paint looks awesome. Love the color. Red interiors look great with cyber gray. Check out the 2014 corvettes with that combo. :thumbsup:

Thanks!

I had the pleasure of loading it up and transporting it back to the house:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5079/...87842569_b.jpg

rickpaw 05-18-2014 07:38 AM

Cool.

Re wheels, I vote for no. 2. Can't wait to see it finish.

n77nxc 05-22-2014 06:48 AM

I ordered a tilt column from Jim at GMTILT and bought this steering wheel:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5565/...9956d966_b.jpg

After ordering the steering wheel, I found out most steering wheel adapters are designed for 69 and up.

Luckily I ran across a thread that tells you to use a Grant 5 bolt installation kit designed for 67-68 cars and a Grant to Momo (5-6 bolt adapter plate). Both pieces are billet aluminum and should blend nicely with the column.

Next I need to order the Holley front accessory drive brackets.

GMTILT 05-22-2014 07:18 AM

lookin good !!:)


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