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Keeping my foot down all the way through the crest is one of the most unnerving/rewarding things I've ever been able to do....
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This Is Awesome!!!
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there has to be more pictures on this event somewhere
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Have the results been posted anywhere?
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Mike Maier overall winner. 1980 Fairmont is Spirit of the Event winner. |
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I imagine there's a lot of guys that had a great time today just because they got to run a lot of laps on Laguna today. I heard 1400 total laps recorded today! |
Awesome event! We had a blast. Very cool. All nice cars, great people. If you didn't go you missed out.
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The event was fabulous.... Anyone that didn't attend - for whatever their reason... missed a great bunch of people... and really well run event... a great track -- and sound just wasn't as big a deal as everyone made it out to be. So now - to me - that is all just a big excuse rather than joining in and having a blast.
The road rally was beautiful --- then dinner and socializing at the Embassy Suite was provided.... then two great days of racing. I'm actually still here at the track... shining my big rig lights on the OPTIMA truck so they can see to break it all down... then Vinnie (their driver) and I will head off together to Texas Motor Speedway and do it all over again. SUCKS TO BE YOU IF YOU MISSED THIS EVENT!!! SERIOUSLY. |
For those of you who visited from out of state.... No, the weather isn't usually that good the first week of March.
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I was surprised at how many runs everyone got on Saturday
You could really hone in on the autocross and stop box 92 db was just a little too far out for my cars.. I can barely make a 105 day with my street exhaust and maybe 98 with my Thunderhill exhaust Well run event.. a lot of really nice guys/gals and cars...some really fast guys I hope no one bent anything up on Sunday. I was working on my Bird that day Panteracer Norcal Bob |
What a kick ass event! If you've got one of these events close, I strongly suggest showing up and atleast watching. We had plenty of time to run as much as we wanted in each event. We could hot lap or pull back into the garage and make any changes needed. Great weather, tons of smiling faces and a bunch of rad cars!
Jimi, Cam, Dennis all the volunteers and course workers made this event what it was, fantastic! I'd drive another 16 hours next weekend if they'd do it again. We did well in all the events improving each and every time out. We also learned a ton, like a 4k lb car needs more brakes! The charger survived and needs nothing more than a bath and some air in the tires. To be able to watch Danny Popp FLYING down the hill after the corkscrew, the show that Mike Maier and Filip from Cortex put on, almost bumper to bumper and the smile on Chris's face every time he stepped out of that challenger...PRICELESS! Looking forward to Portland in August!! :thumbsup: Dan |
I'm sorry for those of you that stayed away because of the 92db sound "issue"... if you did -- you missed out because while some guys had to do some TEMPORARY stuff to their cars like putting screen over their tips - or adding a resonator - or whatever.... every "mod" I saw was the hackey motto special -- very temporary - and for the most part worked pretty well. Some didn't have to do anything.
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Not sure why Laguna is not offering 105 days
to any clubs this year.. they had 5 last year and I along with many others finally got to run their track last year.. guess I better keep my video as that may be the only time Its just not right for me to have to lift at a certain place on the track and then wait until you are past.. trust me most people that run that track on a 90 or 92 or 96 day have to do that in order to stay under or get booted Its a fricking race track.. I can go to Firebird, Pahrump and Reno Fernley and run 4" straight exhaust like a real race car... love those 180's when they are unrestricted!! Play with an unmuffled Nascar truck.. cool stuff I crew for my buddy that has a vintage Can Am car and they are talking about noise limits on them... that is the thrill of going to watch them run.. I understand the limits are by the county but like most racetracks that are not there any more is Laguna on the list coming up??? Fremont, Riverside, etc Just venting one of the things that piss me off I used to run straight expansion chambers on my go karts and dirt bikes.. most of them sound like lawn mowers now... How are the F1 cars going to sound now with a turbo 6? I'll get off my crate now and go work on my car one of the things that settles me down:drowninga: Panteracer Norcal Bob |
It's obviously not USCA's fault -- and they put on a fantastic show it sounds like -- but I could not agree more with you Bob about Laguna, lifting, noise, etc.
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Optima did a great job
and after seeing how much time they gave everyone to run I almost wish I would have tried to comply with the sound limit.. but... I was booted from Sears 4-5 years back for having 104,105 and knowing where the meter was... short shifting etc.. car was running on 7 cylinders with an issue and still could not make the sound Its kinda like driving the car around the block and wondering if the man is going to pop you The track is where you are suppose to be able to let it loose with no worries other than getting over your head Panteracer Norcal Bob |
It's not USCA's fault, nor even SCRAMP's.
You needn't look further than the fancy faux-italiano villa's that immediately surround the track. People that bought and built on property nestled between an airport and a race track....then promptly sued or pushed local legislation to restrict the operations at both. In short - douchebags. Not unlike the lawyer who bought a house up the hill from Altamont Speedway, then buried the track in legal fees and frivolous suits until he forced them out of business.....then he built a moto-x track on his own property. Douchebag. https://www.google.com/maps/place/17...00a87b85d382f5 |
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Now I know what DB really stands for:)
We have a fellow Pantera Member who used to race the Silver State many years back -(clocked at 246mph before he crashed) he bought in one of the neighborhoods and built his shop.. lots of issued dealing with everyone while building it... his neighbors hate him We went over for a tour with our cars one day and his kids were jumping dirt bikes in the front yard The stories he tells about the rules etc They passed a few for him in his neighborhood.. go figure So yes I understand who Panteracer Norcal Bob |
Can't stop the money train! Either adapt and get involved or watch it all go away. Money was paid to get the db level increased for this event, I'm sure more is paid when the historics run.
I'd be curious to know of the ten or so cars that had to adapt at the track, who is doing a more permanent fix? Maybe we can all donate a tree to muffle the noise in the faster parts of the track:headscratch:....or some can just run a different exhaust. Dan |
I don't like it -- but I totally understand the nature of what happens around these tracks.... People move in near them -- then every weekend there's the "race" noise.
Eventually -- if they are lucky the track reaches a compromise to quiet things down... and we know that REAL race cars are not going to do that... so WE are the groups that can modify our cars. I get it. Don't have to like it but I get it. I look at a track like Laguna Seca and marvel that it has survived. Owned and run by the county --- think of the property taxes it would generate if they put high end homes up in those hills... they'd generate revenue without nearly as much hassle. In the meantime ---- if we want events and organizations to survive and grow --- we need to SUPPORT them not bitch about something none of us has any chance of changing. Otherwise -- when you stay away -- then it becomes another nail in the coffin -- no demand for events -- no demand for a track -- and they pave the SOB over and we have NOWHERE to go. Vote with you wallets -- learn to adapt and modify (that IS the essence of hot rodding) and join in ----- or don't bitch when you have nowhere or nobody is organizing anything for us. We're in the middle of no mans land -- we are not racers -- we're street cars.... with racing wannabes as drivers. No sanctioning body would have us... and we'd have to build to their specs instead of our rag tag bunch of car combinations. |
First off I love listening to raw exhaust scavenging as much as the next guy. I also understand the fatigue that loud exhaust have on drivers, thus why they all wear hearing protection. F1, MotoGP, and the other serious bar-raising performance classes need free flowing exhaust. But.....there are so many operators that want loud because it sounds fast and makes them think they're fast even though their vehicle isn't and never will be. They're the ones that create the negative perception.......the perceptions start on public roadways and neighborhoods and nurtures a stereotyped anti-noise culture. Very similar situation with off-road bikes and atv's.
Hopefully muffler engineers can bring new products to the marketplace that still sound great yet neutralize the retaliatory efforts of others. It's still the other idiots that never go to the track that will continue to create conflict. As long as there's products that will allow the vested track enthusiasts to carry on and deflect blame and not fuel the track closure movement all is good. Technology has managed to silence jets, helicopters, and firearms as a few examples and still maintain reasonable performance, hopefully the aftermarket exhaust engineers can deliver as well. :thumbsup: Now can anyone tell me why Harley's everywhere get diplomatic immunity? That's one issue that just flat ticks me off. The epitome of loud and slow. :sieg: |
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