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Damn True 03-27-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 543788)
thanks Brett, its been mostly clean up and getting it up to current safety standards.
There will be a few more changes next year. Cross my fingers.

BTW, cage was put in with no diag bar. :twak:

That got fixed I presume?

Vince@Meanstreets 03-27-2014 06:35 PM

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That got fixed I presume?

It will be eventually, I have to get the rest done and i'll see what kinda time I have left.

I wish we were doing it over from scratch cause its been a chore getting my noz into some spots, the front lower bar took me 45 min to do. laying in the car and finger tip control equals fun. Got 360 but I had to sacrifice a lense.

After 5 hours 45 min..... 60% is welded up. Had to take a break, looking at tig arc too long gives me a migraine, then im no fun to be around.

Sieg 03-27-2014 07:57 PM

I feel for ya Vince, that's tough tedious work and to get rewarded with a migraine is just wrong. :thumbsup:

Would one of these torches help?
http://www.ckworldwide.com/flex-loc.htm

patoke 03-27-2014 08:28 PM

Thanks Vince. :confused18: it does look fantastic. Those welds are beautiful

Rod P 03-27-2014 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 543843)
then im no fun to be around.

when have you ever been fun?????????:stirthepot: did I miss that era?

Vince@Meanstreets 03-27-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod P (Post 543873)
when have you ever been fun?????????:stirthepot: did I miss that era?

haaaa, at least I have a sense of humor.


Hey! where were you today? The toilet papers out in Allens can.

:waveflag:


Just finished the door bars then put the dash back in. It was a rough Thursday. I'll weld in the top of the diagonal Saturday.

Vince@Meanstreets 03-27-2014 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 543856)
I feel for ya Vince, that's tough tedious work and to get rewarded with a migraine is just wrong. :thumbsup:

Would one of these torches help?
http://www.ckworldwide.com/flex-loc.htm

it happens, it will be worth it when done.

What I need is a shorter lense nozzle....and a 90 degree tungsten. :idea:

I got a great idea for finger control. Anyone wanna loan me 60K to develop and proto-type?? :G-Dub:

Flash68 03-28-2014 12:22 AM

Nice work Vince. Door bars look great.

Sieg 03-28-2014 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 543876)
What I need is a shorter lense nozzle....and a 90 degree tungsten. :idea:

CK90V Flex is the best I could find......is 90 amp rating enough? :sieg:
http://www.ckworldwide.com/master.htm

Check the dimensions page.

Vince@Meanstreets 03-28-2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 543892)
CK90V Flex is the best I could find......is 90 amp rating enough? :sieg:
http://www.ckworldwide.com/master.htm

Check the dimensions page.

not for CM.....I'll keep looking.

Vince@Meanstreets 03-28-2014 07:29 PM

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here is some of the tin work that Rod AKA "The Tin Man" done on the car.

.040 AL...

Sieg 03-28-2014 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 543939)
not for CM.....I'll keep looking.

140a and 90* http://www.ckworldwide.com/micro_torch.htm

Vince@Meanstreets 03-28-2014 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 544035)

damn....70amp for gas cooled...looks like im upping to a dynasty sooner than I thought.

my man....im gonna check with my dealer monday....since your up....how many different types of finger tip controls can you find? :goggles:

Sieg 03-28-2014 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 544040)
damn....70amp for gas cooled...looks like im upping to a dynasty sooner than I thought.

my man....im gonna check with my dealer monday....since your up....how many different types of finger tip controls can you find? :goggles:

Regretfully you "need" water cooling for the tubing you're doing. =(
What amperage are you using on that cage?

Here's a couple: http://www.arc-zone.com/index.php?ma...x&cPath=13_674

I'm liking that rotary belt unit with the velcro so you can change the switch position on the torch as needed and the north-south finger movement vs. east-west of the typical dial. :thumbsup:

USA Weld offers that rotary for my HTP 221 Invertig......very tempted. As you know there's times when a foot control is basically useless and I'd have a backup should the foot control fail.

Vince@Meanstreets 03-28-2014 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 544044)
Regretfully you "need" water cooling for the tubing you're doing. =(
What amperage are you using on that cage?




Here's a couple: http://www.arc-zone.com/index.php?ma...x&cPath=13_674

I'm liking that rotary belt unit with the velcro so you can change the switch position on the torch as needed and the north-south finger movement vs. east-west of the typical dial. :thumbsup:

USA Weld offers that rotary for my HTP 221 Invertig......very tempted. As you know there's times when a foot control is basically useless and I'd have a backup should the foot control fail.

The list of things that I need are growing...new torch, diopter lens, tugsten shapener, Dynasty, band saw, gravity boots etc I've been hanging upside down for a few of the jobs.


come to think about it next time im gonna drag the teeter hang up to the shop to help me get to those hard to reach spots...


for the finger control I have the machine set to 180 and that gives me 1/4 turn from off to deal with when im welding. So its about 125-130

In the past I try to do a majority of my welding with the finger control. Its something I recommend when someone is first starting out. Start and perfect the finger controls. Like driving...start with a stick shift. everything else is gravy

Vince@Meanstreets 03-30-2014 10:36 PM

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Underdash is finally done, dash is in, fire system done, steering column mounts finished and seats are going in.

Vince@Meanstreets 04-03-2014 11:03 PM

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Since we had to make even more room for the rear wheels and tires we pushed the lower quarter out about 2 inches. To make it look right we also had to extend the rockers. This will add to the cars aero moving the air around the tire. In theory.



Here are a few pictures from when I was setting up the rear quarter and rocker extension.

Vince@Meanstreets 04-03-2014 11:52 PM

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More on the rocker extension.

Here is a great shot of the side with the fender and quarter mocked in. Very subtle stretch. Makes the 335's look like 295's.

intocarss 04-04-2014 11:34 AM

LOOKN GOOD VINN :bigun2:

Sieg 04-04-2014 01:42 PM

Nice work Vince, didn't know you possessed all that metal fab talent. :thumbsup:

Track Junky 04-04-2014 03:08 PM

Yup. That thing is looking good. :thumbsup:

Vince@Meanstreets 04-07-2014 07:47 PM

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thanks alot guys, its rare to have a customer give you full creative reign on a project. I think he was a bit surprised how far we took it considering it came in for a simple quarter panel and fender replacment.

Here are some more pictures of the fender stretch.

patoke 04-08-2014 01:07 PM

Looking good Vince

Vince@Meanstreets 04-08-2014 11:10 PM

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Thanks Pat....outside earlier today.

The front fenders came out great. Still doing some finish work to the passenger side fender and extension.

Pretty close to matching the rear quarter.

Ron in SoCal 04-08-2014 11:26 PM

Looks awesome Vince. :thumbsup:

Track Junky 04-09-2014 07:18 AM

Yup :thumbsup:

intocarss 04-09-2014 08:32 AM

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

cwylie 04-09-2014 12:16 PM

Did you widen the front fenders at all? Are you running an inner fender?

Vince@Meanstreets 04-09-2014 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cwylie (Post 545986)
Did you widen the front fenders at all? Are you running an inner fender?

The front was stretched 1 1/4" to match the rear stretch. It should almost appear stock when done and painted. Till you look closer.

No inner wells. Just tin work to keep rubber and track debris off the exhaust.

The upper control arm prevented us from going with a deeper backspace so we ended up with 5 3/4" BS. We have a bit more room to the outer lip to give the tire more room during articulation a track car normally sees.

Damn True 04-09-2014 01:48 PM

Curious as to what you see as the pros/cons of this method vs say what JCG did with their BluBalz car

http://www.camaroperformers.com/proj...g/viewall.html & http://www.camaroperformers.com/cama...l/viewall.html & http://www.camaroperformers.com/feat...o/viewall.html

Labor hrs?
Weight contribution?
Etc...

Vince@Meanstreets 04-09-2014 04:11 PM

something about cats and skinning.

Im not sure about time Rupp and Cris might know more on that. I am about 60 hours total to go this route.

Im not dealing with inner wells or edge lips and adding a 3/16" rod so might be a wash with weight. I know this particular car will be a bit heavier compared to how it came in. :lol:

Leroy Rochester 04-11-2014 11:14 AM

This car and Track Junky's car are really going a long way to enhance my opinion of the '69 Camaros (which I've always referred to as "too chubby" in the past).

I'm really enjoying the step by step on the craftsmanship that's going into this car. I'd love to see a bit more detail on the quarter stretching.

Vince@Meanstreets 04-11-2014 11:34 PM

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This car and Track Junky's car are really going a long way to enhance my opinion of the '69 Camaros (which I've always referred to as "too chubby" in the past).

I'm really enjoying the step by step on the craftsmanship that's going into this car. I'd love to see a bit more detail on the quarter stretching.

Thanks alot Leroy. Craftsman....I like that but im just a regular guy with a good welder and even gooder grinder. :hello:

Alot of inspiration has come from this site. Marquez design, Ironworks, BBT fab, RS, Troy's, Goolsby, B&B Classics, CHC, FAB53, JCG just to name a few. One of these days i'll have to take a vacation to go take a Lazze metal working class and put these great tools to work.

Right now im working on the rear inner wheel house structure and i'll post up a bunch of pictures when im done. If I planned it right it will support the quarter skin fully making it easy to remove or replace.

The thing that is taking the most time is trying to tip toe around old repairs and rust damage around the tailpanel. It should be replaced but we have a track event to make in May. That's a can of worms to be left be for now.

Just a few pictures of the rear quarter work. The 335 19's take up a bunch of real estate. I pulled the front of the quarter then will conture the rocker to help direct the air around the tire. Also close up the gap a bit too.

I actually recycled the curved section of the old quarter panel that I cut off and used it as a flange to keep the new skin flush. Worked out great. It was clean so I tried it. Tacked it in and fit the new skin.

Sieg 04-12-2014 05:17 AM

Impressive :thumbsup:

patoke 04-12-2014 08:06 AM

Looking good! :thumbsup:

LS7 Z/28 04-21-2014 05:04 PM

I've been watching this one since the first post, this thing is sweet Vince. I've been planning on putting my battery in the same spot, I think it makes sense to keep it low and towards the middle of the car. Looks sweet, I think you should paint the front of that rearview mirror black. Just my .02¢.

ArisESQ 04-21-2014 11:23 PM

Just found this thread - love seeing updates on this thing!

Vince@Meanstreets 04-22-2014 12:43 PM

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I've been watching this one since the first post, this thing is sweet Vince. I've been planning on putting my battery in the same spot, I think it makes sense to keep it low and towards the middle of the car. Looks sweet, I think you should paint the front of that rearview mirror black. Just my .02¢.

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Originally Posted by ill steez (Post 546782)
Just found this thread - love seeing updates on this thing!

thanks guys, right now its a Borelli Motor Sports getting a Dyno and alignment check.

This place is amazing. This is what my shop wants to be when it grows up.

As soon as I get my bearings i'll update the updates...we are still staying dark till then.


Flash68 04-22-2014 01:58 PM

That place is legit. They bring out the heavy hittin entourage to the track too.... makes Weld's rig look like a Mini Cooper.

ArisESQ 04-22-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 546937)
thanks guys, right now its a Borelli Motor Sports getting a Dyno and alignment check.

This place is amazing. This is what my shop wants to be when it grows up.




Feel free to go ahead and turn mine into a race-car whenever you like.


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