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GregWeld 05-25-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by carbuff (Post 552520)
I couldn't when I tried earlier...

Just curious, how many car participated in the event?




ME EITHER ---



50

SSLance 05-25-2014 07:31 PM

try this

https://plus.google.com/photos/10715...NG62NKlgZvs7AE

I made the album public, that should do it as well.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/1...20385081637825

pavell 05-25-2014 07:51 PM

And by the way who won? The last I heard the lingenfelter camaro had the fastest time on the road course.

GregWeld 05-25-2014 08:26 PM

Gotta tell you guys --- I don't know what the plans are -- or what the USCA game plan is -- but these events are put on for "US", and "US" don't seem to be supporting what is one hell of a fantastic series.

I went to two of them just to check 'em out and help a couple buddies have some fun... and this is an amazing chance for most of you guys - and you're not taking advantage of what's been handed to you.

No way they can put these shows on for 50 or 60 cars... PEOPLE BETTER START STEPPING UP AND SUPPORTING IT. If I had cars that qualified I'd be all over it. Great tracks - great people running it - just first class all the way.

carbuff 05-25-2014 08:41 PM

I'm with you Greg. Sadly, I couldn't make the DFW event due to prior plans. I really tried to get away to drive the 16 or so hours to this one, but instead I've been working all weekend. :(

I hope I'm going to be able to make one of them this year!

65_LS1_T56 05-26-2014 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pavell (Post 552525)
And by the way who won? The last I heard the lingenfelter camaro had the fastest time on the road course.

Pretty sure Mike Johnson is his C6 Z06 won the overall. Danny Popp was fastest in the road course.


We left 4 hours before the awards portion trying to get a jump in our 22+ hour drive...still in Kentucky ugh, been driving for 14 hours now.:confused59:

I'm with what Greg said. No way these will continue without support. That's why I made sure I went this year. Might not get these chances again ever. I'll be at MIS as well since its close to home. Is it expensive? Heck yes. Was it worth it? HELL YES!

I was nervous as a wh@πe in church after the driver's meeting... but thanks to Jet Hot for getting instructors for us to ride along. I took advantage of them and was immediately calmed by him and his confidence in me. Heck even Kyle Tucker had an instructor... after a few laps he politely asked to get out of his car, lol. Kyle was driving the 70 hard!

I got as many runs in speed stop and autox as I wanted. 26 passes in the autox actually. Could've went many more but it was blistering hot out. I couldn't take anymore.

The event as a whole was very well run and for the most part stuck to the schedule. It was a memorable weekend for us, something I never imagined I'd get to do in my own car. After I get some videos and pictures uploaded, I'll post up a link.

71RS/SS396 05-26-2014 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pavell (Post 552525)
And by the way who won? The last I heard the lingenfelter camaro had the fastest time on the road course.

Mike Johnson won the overall in the under 3,000 lb class, fastest overall in the auto-x and speed stop.

Kyle Tucker won the overall in the over 3,000 lb class

Todd Earsley won the AWD class.

FIREFIGHTER273 05-26-2014 04:23 AM

Event support
 
The event was incredible! I do agree we need to show more support, not many spectators at all. I am planing on participating if they bring it back to Daytona.

SSLance 05-26-2014 06:39 AM

I'm not sure what it would take to get more participants to these events. It may be expensive to sign up initially but it is absolutely worth the money for the amount of track time you get. Hopefully spreading the good word about how much track time is actually available will help.

I was blown away with how many runs one could make on the speed stop and Autocross course. Both the car and the driver will be wore plumb out before the time expires...and then after lunch you get a whole 'nuther session at both. To enter one of these events you better have your stuff ready to run and run a LOT.

One thing I think that would help attendance and not be too intrusive would be to allow ridealongs on the autocross and speed stop portions. There isn't that much for the family and friends of the entrants to do once they've watched everyone make 20 or 30 runs at each.

Craig67 05-26-2014 07:15 AM

I went yesterday and it was great. I will admit I was surprised how few spectators were present and even the accommodations for spectators could use some work......but that will come. As for how to get people out to the event......maybe partner with the local car dealers and get them to advertise? Maybe they would even offer to cover ride-alongs for potential buyers in their cars? Once it gets bigger, you back away from that. In addition, there was little to no advertising in the area or thru the local car clubs. If you got a couple of clubs to support the cause with a cruise and a car show, you would start to generate buzz. I think the potential to be big is there.....just have to get people out to see it. I rode with Kyle at Kissimmee and I was hooked.

GregWeld 05-26-2014 12:09 PM

What I just can't understand is there is plenty of advance notice -- and on here and "that other place" -- there are all these guys that profess to want to build or own big time "pro touring" cars... they have the big horsepower - the big brakes - every expensive part known to man....

FOR WHAT? To go sit at a car show in a chair all day? REALLY?

Here's an opportunity for people to drive on some of the greatest tracks in the USA... WHO CARES IF YOU CAN'T DRIVE --- WHO CARES IF IT'S YOUR FIRST TIME... WHO CARES THAT YOU HAVE ZERO CHANCE TO WIN ANYTHING... OMG!!

Hanging out with experienced people that are there to help -- talking to the supporting vendors that are there to support you -- just F'n BEING THERE.... And don't tell me it's the COST! You bungholes spend 5K on wheels - and 6K on brakes... for what? 'Cause they're pretty? GO USE 'EM!!

IF YOU'RE DEAD FRIGGIN LAST SO WHAT. Everybody -- and I mean EVERYBODY started somewhere. Ya think Kyle popped out and jumped in a car and drove? He started out - Maier started out - Tim started out SOMEWHERE. They have FREE instructors for gawds sake! If ya did nothing for the whole weekend but rode around with them you'd have had the time of your life!

Seriously - you guys are blowing it big time.

Off my stand.... but I'm seriously disappointed in the community for not "getting it".

65_LS1_T56 05-26-2014 12:15 PM

^what he said!

SSLance 05-26-2014 12:25 PM

Dan Howe with the wrangler Monte Carlo told me a story that explains how he feels about the events, in the drivers meeting on Sunday he raised his hand and asked if he could sign up for next year's event at Daytona... right now...

And he traveled halfway across the country to get there and drive his garage built car on the high banks of Daytona.

FIREFIGHTER273 05-26-2014 12:25 PM

So true,,,
 
I was talked into doin an autocross run, I didn't even plan on it, just content with being a spectator. I did it and in my mind I won! I made a vow to run my car at every Florida event. I learned alot from Daytona as a spectator and next time I am gonna be a participant.:gitrdun:

dontlifttoshift 05-26-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 552528)
If I had cars that qualified I'd be all over it.

So nobody make 200 tw tires to fit your mustang?

James OLC 05-26-2014 01:27 PM

What Greg said...

The USCA has three classes - novice, advanced, and expert. Everyone here falls in to one of those classes. At Daytona there were four cars in novice - by the time folks were on their 7th (!!!!) 20 minute session there was one novice car out on Daytona... by himself... under the lights - how cool is that?

Jet Hot Coatings supplied five very experienced instructors - that anyone could use - for free - on the road course and autocross. Heck, Kyle Tucker took advantage of an instructor (who begged to be let out of the car after the first lap for what it's worth).

This is about learning, having fun, and getting together with everyone for the weekend.

No excuses not to try...

GregWeld 05-26-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dontlifttoshift (Post 552586)
So nobody make 200 tw tires to fit your mustang?




Donny ---

It's more than tires for me -- sadly -- There are requirements that neither of my cars can meet -- you know -- silly things like a registration (have none - can't get one if I tried) -- Insurance -- Lights -- Wipers -- "streetable". This is
the Ultimate STREET CAR Assoc... not the Indy Lights. LOL


My two are just pure track/race cars -- In order to buy the Lotus 2 Eleven, you have to sign papers acknowledging that it can not be driven on the street or licensed - it doesn't meet federal requirements. The Mustang doesn't even have VIN numbers -- hasn't been licensable since Jack built it - I have no title - no bill of sale - no VIN - No windows - no headlights - no turn signals - no plate - and couldn't drive it on the tour part if I wanted to. It'd run out of 110 octane... overheat (small radiator and no shroud)... and the clutch would be toasted and I'd probably break the Jerico with some ham handed shift at low RPMS.


I'd have been IN every one of these events If I had a car to run. I'd actually thought about just going to every one of them just because my friends are there... but with building the new shop out - and trying to get the new house started - and blah blah blah this just isn't the summer to be gone on the road. As it was I spent the month of March going to the first two. I hauled cars to them for RideTech and Hobaugh - and all the gear from Laguna to Fort Worth... I helped Vinnie set up the Optima Prime truck at TMS... I drove 5500 miles in the rig "just cause I could".

I think that's why I'm so disappointed in the turnouts --- people just have no idea what they're missing out on. And they're going to "Wait until next year" to do something.... and who is it they talked to that told them there was a guarantee there'd be a next year?

The time is NOW, and then there'd be a "next year" 'cause it would be, and it should be, a smashing success.

dontlifttoshift 05-26-2014 01:39 PM

I get it, but since you called us bungholes for not attending....:)

https://www.hertz.com/rentacar/vehic...ory=Adrenaline Collection

Problems solved.

GregWeld 05-26-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dontlifttoshift (Post 552591)
I get it, but since you called us bungholes for not attending....:)

https://www.hertz.com/rentacar/vehic...ory=Adrenaline Collection

Problems solved.



True enough.... but you're still a bunghole.

GregWeld 05-26-2014 01:46 PM

I'd even thought about skipping the Shelby Mini Nats to attend Portland... it is in my backyard. So guilty as charged. However, I've dedicated this season to get my two cars ready for the years ahead... and have gone to considerable effort in that regard.. and there isn't many times that work for all involved so the decision was made to track my two cars where I can run them.

I don't think many on here or "the other place" have the same excuse... and they're the ones this series is meant for - not me. That doesn't keep me from wanting to see this as a success!

wiedemab 05-26-2014 03:04 PM

I'm trying to build a car to participate, but it'll take me a while....... I hope these events get the support they need to be around for when I finish my car.

SSLance 05-26-2014 03:53 PM

Has anyone ever talked with Jimi et al to see just how many cars they'd like to see at each event to make the nut?

Given that they are held in conjunction with the Chump Car series and have the TV deal, that has to lighten the most likely very considerable load some. The Chump car turnout was HUGE this weekend, from my perspective anyway, and interest in that series seems to be growing all the time.

I'm just wondering how many Ultimate Street cars entered into an event would be optimum, before it gets to be too many? Granted it should be more than 50-60 for sure, hell we draw over 100 cars to just about every local SCCA autocross we have for 4 maybe 5 minutes of total driving time. Hopefully the Midwest will represent well at St Louis in a couple of months...

71RS/SS396 05-26-2014 05:00 PM

I'm with GW on this, if people don't show up to these events they will go away. The sponsors are paying substantial money to support these events and if the participation is low they aren't getting good value for their investment and they won't continue to invest. Track rental alone for these events is VERY expensive, I have no idea what Daytona, Laguna .... etc cost, but I know a track like VIR is $20K per day, plus insurance, and the cost of the track personnel.
People need to get over the embarrassment of looking like a newb or a fool (I pretty much do that at every event) and come out and have fun. The more experienced drivers are always willing to help if you ask.

Warpath Pontiac 05-26-2014 06:12 PM

This event was awesome!

I only came as a spectator (ran into time issues and car didn't meet the rules) and it was great seeing some awesome cars. I got to meet some great people and had an awesome time. I'm looking forward to going to more events.


I just feel really bad for my bank account. I have slowly been building my Buick up into something that could be called a pro touring car, but after this weekend it got a pretty serious shove in the right direction. Now I'm going to try as hard as possible to participate in the Sebring event in September.

SSLance 05-26-2014 06:49 PM

I hear ya... I can't get the sound of those singing LS engines out of my head... :whistling:

I think word might get out a bit more after this event and hopefully attendance will pick up. The first two were pretty early in the season and basically back to back. This one was on the other end of the Country with a completely different draw. I know people traveled from far away to get there though and I'm assuming once they get back home and get caught up, they'll be talking the event up just like everyone else.

That has to help create a buzz about them.

camcojb 05-26-2014 09:02 PM

More pics are up now. Several Lateral-G members were there.

https://lateral-g.net/wordpress/?p=1511

65_LS1_T56 05-27-2014 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by camcojb (Post 552675)
More pics are up now. Several Lateral-G members were there.

https://lateral-g.net/wordpress/?p=1511

Thanks Jody! What a great experience we had :trophy-1302:


can't wait for MIS event

72novadriver 05-27-2014 06:04 AM

We are back from what I would consider one of the most memorable car experiences we've ever had. The USCA crew put together an awesome event that consisted of more track time than we could even handle. Anybody on the fence about going to one of these events I would highly suggest you sign up. You wont regret it.

Here are a couple laps from one of the sessions on the Rolex course.

http://youtu.be/Ab5TBO76PRs">http://youtu.be/Ab5TBO76PRs" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="640" height="360">

GregWeld 05-27-2014 06:09 AM

Here Billy -- Fixed it for ya....







72novadriver 05-27-2014 06:18 AM

Thanks Greg! :cheers:

GregWeld 05-27-2014 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 72novadriver (Post 552719)
Thanks Greg! :cheers:



You're welcome buddy!



Man! Nice driving! You made those other guys look like they were doing cool-down laps.... LOL

Sieg 05-27-2014 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 552721)
Man! Nice driving! You made those other guys look like they were doing cool-down laps.... LOL

+1 Nice lines Billy, obviously that wasn't your first rodeo. :D :thumbsup:

MarkM66 05-27-2014 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 72novadriver (Post 552719)
Thanks Greg! :cheers:

Awesome video. Do you know what your speeds were on the banking?

BMR Sales 05-27-2014 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SSLance (Post 552503)
In the second to last segment of the road course Sat night, as it was cooling down and the speeds and action were picking up, the One Lap Camaro lost control on the infield portion and ended up smacking the wall pretty good. This ended the Expert segment while they brought his car in. I snapped this picture as they unloaded it in his garage.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k...o/DSC04724.JPG

It looked pretty bad to me and I figured he was done for.

But they worked on it over night and I snapped this picture of him running the speed stop on Sunday.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...o/DSC04863.JPG

Really happy for them for getting the car on the track again.

I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure this is the car that had the engine failure on the autocross portion today.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-M.../DSC04812a.jpg

We saw it shooting fire out from under it near the finish but I didn't have my camera out at the time. Hate that they had that happen to them.

I know this though, all of these competitors were leaving it all out on the track. I've never heard so many LS engines getting wrung out so much like that before. It was like music to my ears. And they got SO MANY runs in!!! In the first autocross session I bet most of the guys got at least (25) 46-50 second runs in. and they had a whole 'nuther 2 hour session to run in the afternoon as well. Same with the Speed Stop. No lack of track time there at all.

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72novadriver 05-27-2014 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 552724)
Awesome video. Do you know what your speeds were on the banking?

The quickest I was able to get the car to go in the banking was around 152 mph according to my RPM/tire size/gear ratio. Having never driven on anything with banking before I found it to be a blast. The force you feel of the car being pushed into the track is incredible.

camcojb 05-27-2014 08:59 AM

I just added several more pages of pictures taken by Lance (SSLance). Thanks!!

72novadriver 05-27-2014 09:19 AM

Here is a video with a different angle under the lights at night.
http://youtu.be/INKDrck03VI

wiedemab 05-27-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 72novadriver (Post 552754)
The quickest I was able to get the car to go in the banking was around 152 mph according to my RPM/tire size/gear ratio. Having never driven on anything with banking before I found it to be a blast. The force you feel of the car being pushed into the track is incredible.

Billy - could you start to feel the aero limitations of the car at that speed? I would think you would, but??????

GregWeld 05-27-2014 01:30 PM

Fixed it for ya again buddy!

LOL








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