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ME EITHER --- 50 |
try this
https://plus.google.com/photos/10715...NG62NKlgZvs7AE I made the album public, that should do it as well. https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/1...20385081637825 |
And by the way who won? The last I heard the lingenfelter camaro had the fastest time on the road course.
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Gotta tell you guys --- I don't know what the plans are -- or what the USCA game plan is -- but these events are put on for "US", and "US" don't seem to be supporting what is one hell of a fantastic series.
I went to two of them just to check 'em out and help a couple buddies have some fun... and this is an amazing chance for most of you guys - and you're not taking advantage of what's been handed to you. No way they can put these shows on for 50 or 60 cars... PEOPLE BETTER START STEPPING UP AND SUPPORTING IT. If I had cars that qualified I'd be all over it. Great tracks - great people running it - just first class all the way. |
I'm with you Greg. Sadly, I couldn't make the DFW event due to prior plans. I really tried to get away to drive the 16 or so hours to this one, but instead I've been working all weekend. :(
I hope I'm going to be able to make one of them this year! |
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We left 4 hours before the awards portion trying to get a jump in our 22+ hour drive...still in Kentucky ugh, been driving for 14 hours now.:confused59: I'm with what Greg said. No way these will continue without support. That's why I made sure I went this year. Might not get these chances again ever. I'll be at MIS as well since its close to home. Is it expensive? Heck yes. Was it worth it? HELL YES! I was nervous as a wh@πe in church after the driver's meeting... but thanks to Jet Hot for getting instructors for us to ride along. I took advantage of them and was immediately calmed by him and his confidence in me. Heck even Kyle Tucker had an instructor... after a few laps he politely asked to get out of his car, lol. Kyle was driving the 70 hard! I got as many runs in speed stop and autox as I wanted. 26 passes in the autox actually. Could've went many more but it was blistering hot out. I couldn't take anymore. The event as a whole was very well run and for the most part stuck to the schedule. It was a memorable weekend for us, something I never imagined I'd get to do in my own car. After I get some videos and pictures uploaded, I'll post up a link. |
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Kyle Tucker won the overall in the over 3,000 lb class Todd Earsley won the AWD class. |
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The event was incredible! I do agree we need to show more support, not many spectators at all. I am planing on participating if they bring it back to Daytona.
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I'm not sure what it would take to get more participants to these events. It may be expensive to sign up initially but it is absolutely worth the money for the amount of track time you get. Hopefully spreading the good word about how much track time is actually available will help.
I was blown away with how many runs one could make on the speed stop and Autocross course. Both the car and the driver will be wore plumb out before the time expires...and then after lunch you get a whole 'nuther session at both. To enter one of these events you better have your stuff ready to run and run a LOT. One thing I think that would help attendance and not be too intrusive would be to allow ridealongs on the autocross and speed stop portions. There isn't that much for the family and friends of the entrants to do once they've watched everyone make 20 or 30 runs at each. |
I went yesterday and it was great. I will admit I was surprised how few spectators were present and even the accommodations for spectators could use some work......but that will come. As for how to get people out to the event......maybe partner with the local car dealers and get them to advertise? Maybe they would even offer to cover ride-alongs for potential buyers in their cars? Once it gets bigger, you back away from that. In addition, there was little to no advertising in the area or thru the local car clubs. If you got a couple of clubs to support the cause with a cruise and a car show, you would start to generate buzz. I think the potential to be big is there.....just have to get people out to see it. I rode with Kyle at Kissimmee and I was hooked.
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What I just can't understand is there is plenty of advance notice -- and on here and "that other place" -- there are all these guys that profess to want to build or own big time "pro touring" cars... they have the big horsepower - the big brakes - every expensive part known to man....
FOR WHAT? To go sit at a car show in a chair all day? REALLY? Here's an opportunity for people to drive on some of the greatest tracks in the USA... WHO CARES IF YOU CAN'T DRIVE --- WHO CARES IF IT'S YOUR FIRST TIME... WHO CARES THAT YOU HAVE ZERO CHANCE TO WIN ANYTHING... OMG!! Hanging out with experienced people that are there to help -- talking to the supporting vendors that are there to support you -- just F'n BEING THERE.... And don't tell me it's the COST! You bungholes spend 5K on wheels - and 6K on brakes... for what? 'Cause they're pretty? GO USE 'EM!! IF YOU'RE DEAD FRIGGIN LAST SO WHAT. Everybody -- and I mean EVERYBODY started somewhere. Ya think Kyle popped out and jumped in a car and drove? He started out - Maier started out - Tim started out SOMEWHERE. They have FREE instructors for gawds sake! If ya did nothing for the whole weekend but rode around with them you'd have had the time of your life! Seriously - you guys are blowing it big time. Off my stand.... but I'm seriously disappointed in the community for not "getting it". |
^what he said!
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Dan Howe with the wrangler Monte Carlo told me a story that explains how he feels about the events, in the drivers meeting on Sunday he raised his hand and asked if he could sign up for next year's event at Daytona... right now...
And he traveled halfway across the country to get there and drive his garage built car on the high banks of Daytona. |
So true,,,
I was talked into doin an autocross run, I didn't even plan on it, just content with being a spectator. I did it and in my mind I won! I made a vow to run my car at every Florida event. I learned alot from Daytona as a spectator and next time I am gonna be a participant.:gitrdun:
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What Greg said...
The USCA has three classes - novice, advanced, and expert. Everyone here falls in to one of those classes. At Daytona there were four cars in novice - by the time folks were on their 7th (!!!!) 20 minute session there was one novice car out on Daytona... by himself... under the lights - how cool is that? Jet Hot Coatings supplied five very experienced instructors - that anyone could use - for free - on the road course and autocross. Heck, Kyle Tucker took advantage of an instructor (who begged to be let out of the car after the first lap for what it's worth). This is about learning, having fun, and getting together with everyone for the weekend. No excuses not to try... |
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Donny --- It's more than tires for me -- sadly -- There are requirements that neither of my cars can meet -- you know -- silly things like a registration (have none - can't get one if I tried) -- Insurance -- Lights -- Wipers -- "streetable". This is the Ultimate STREET CAR Assoc... not the Indy Lights. LOL My two are just pure track/race cars -- In order to buy the Lotus 2 Eleven, you have to sign papers acknowledging that it can not be driven on the street or licensed - it doesn't meet federal requirements. The Mustang doesn't even have VIN numbers -- hasn't been licensable since Jack built it - I have no title - no bill of sale - no VIN - No windows - no headlights - no turn signals - no plate - and couldn't drive it on the tour part if I wanted to. It'd run out of 110 octane... overheat (small radiator and no shroud)... and the clutch would be toasted and I'd probably break the Jerico with some ham handed shift at low RPMS. I'd have been IN every one of these events If I had a car to run. I'd actually thought about just going to every one of them just because my friends are there... but with building the new shop out - and trying to get the new house started - and blah blah blah this just isn't the summer to be gone on the road. As it was I spent the month of March going to the first two. I hauled cars to them for RideTech and Hobaugh - and all the gear from Laguna to Fort Worth... I helped Vinnie set up the Optima Prime truck at TMS... I drove 5500 miles in the rig "just cause I could". I think that's why I'm so disappointed in the turnouts --- people just have no idea what they're missing out on. And they're going to "Wait until next year" to do something.... and who is it they talked to that told them there was a guarantee there'd be a next year? The time is NOW, and then there'd be a "next year" 'cause it would be, and it should be, a smashing success. |
I get it, but since you called us bungholes for not attending....:)
https://www.hertz.com/rentacar/vehic...ory=Adrenaline Collection Problems solved. |
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True enough.... but you're still a bunghole. |
I'd even thought about skipping the Shelby Mini Nats to attend Portland... it is in my backyard. So guilty as charged. However, I've dedicated this season to get my two cars ready for the years ahead... and have gone to considerable effort in that regard.. and there isn't many times that work for all involved so the decision was made to track my two cars where I can run them.
I don't think many on here or "the other place" have the same excuse... and they're the ones this series is meant for - not me. That doesn't keep me from wanting to see this as a success! |
I'm trying to build a car to participate, but it'll take me a while....... I hope these events get the support they need to be around for when I finish my car.
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Has anyone ever talked with Jimi et al to see just how many cars they'd like to see at each event to make the nut?
Given that they are held in conjunction with the Chump Car series and have the TV deal, that has to lighten the most likely very considerable load some. The Chump car turnout was HUGE this weekend, from my perspective anyway, and interest in that series seems to be growing all the time. I'm just wondering how many Ultimate Street cars entered into an event would be optimum, before it gets to be too many? Granted it should be more than 50-60 for sure, hell we draw over 100 cars to just about every local SCCA autocross we have for 4 maybe 5 minutes of total driving time. Hopefully the Midwest will represent well at St Louis in a couple of months... |
I'm with GW on this, if people don't show up to these events they will go away. The sponsors are paying substantial money to support these events and if the participation is low they aren't getting good value for their investment and they won't continue to invest. Track rental alone for these events is VERY expensive, I have no idea what Daytona, Laguna .... etc cost, but I know a track like VIR is $20K per day, plus insurance, and the cost of the track personnel.
People need to get over the embarrassment of looking like a newb or a fool (I pretty much do that at every event) and come out and have fun. The more experienced drivers are always willing to help if you ask. |
This event was awesome!
I only came as a spectator (ran into time issues and car didn't meet the rules) and it was great seeing some awesome cars. I got to meet some great people and had an awesome time. I'm looking forward to going to more events. I just feel really bad for my bank account. I have slowly been building my Buick up into something that could be called a pro touring car, but after this weekend it got a pretty serious shove in the right direction. Now I'm going to try as hard as possible to participate in the Sebring event in September. |
I hear ya... I can't get the sound of those singing LS engines out of my head... :whistling:
I think word might get out a bit more after this event and hopefully attendance will pick up. The first two were pretty early in the season and basically back to back. This one was on the other end of the Country with a completely different draw. I know people traveled from far away to get there though and I'm assuming once they get back home and get caught up, they'll be talking the event up just like everyone else. That has to help create a buzz about them. |
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We are back from what I would consider one of the most memorable car experiences we've ever had. The USCA crew put together an awesome event that consisted of more track time than we could even handle. Anybody on the fence about going to one of these events I would highly suggest you sign up. You wont regret it.
Here are a couple laps from one of the sessions on the Rolex course. |
Here Billy -- Fixed it for ya....
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Thanks Greg! :cheers:
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You're welcome buddy! Man! Nice driving! You made those other guys look like they were doing cool-down laps.... LOL |
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I just added several more pages of pictures taken by Lance (SSLance). Thanks!!
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Here is a video with a different angle under the lights at night.
http://youtu.be/INKDrck03VI |
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Fixed it for ya again buddy!
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