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Flash68 02-04-2015 05:04 PM

For your price point I would definitely consider Forgestar. They are on a lot of track cars (not just on the forum) and seem to have been taking the toll well.

67Rally 02-05-2015 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBeer-WAN-Kenobi (Post 593173)
OK,
After calling forgestar directly, it seems I have to go to a 9" wheel up front to get the right offset/backspacing and not need to deal with a spacer. It's going to go towards the subframe but stay the same distance away from the outer fender. It's also only availlable in the F14 Style. Seems like a decent option though.

So, I shouldn't lose too much turning radius with a 9" wide wheel up front right? Anything else I need to worry about?

What offset are they recommending on a 9" wheel, and what size tire do you want to run?

OBeer-WAN-Kenobi 02-05-2015 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67Rally (Post 593328)
What offset are they recommending on a 9" wheel, and what size tire do you want to run?

Hey man, how's it going?

Actually they want to do a 9.5 " with a +26 offset. I'm thinking that should be the same as an 8" wheel and a +6 offset as far as the outer fender is concerned. However, I'm thinking it will seriously hamper my turning radius, if not mess something else up as well due to being about an inch closer to the sub frame.

They (forgestar) just don't seem to make a 8" for what our cars need.

Back wheels aren't an issue. They make a 9.5" with a +6.

Sideshow 02-05-2015 08:05 PM

did you ask them if they can make you a 8" wheel ? my wheels are supposed to be 19" but i asked for 18" and they said thats fine.

67Rally 02-06-2015 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBeer-WAN-Kenobi (Post 593331)
Hey man, how's it going?

Actually they want to do a 9.5 " with a +26 offset. I'm thinking that should be the same as an 8" wheel and a +6 offset as far as the outer fender is concerned. However, I'm thinking it will seriously hamper my turning radius, if not mess something else up as well due to being about an inch closer to the sub frame.

They (forgestar) just don't seem to make a 8" for what our cars need.

Back wheels aren't an issue. They make a 9.5" with a +6.



A +26mm offset will put the midline of the wheel 20mm (.79") closer to your suspension. Add another .75" closer for the actual wheel width (half the added width will be closer to the suspension, and half will be closer to the fender), and now you are 1.5" closer to your suspension up front. You would rub terrible on the inner side with that setup. You are correct about the fender clearance, you would be just about the same as a 18x8 +6mm setup.

FWIW, my fronts are 18x8 with a +12 offset, and a 245/40/18 and they rub on hard turns. The setup they are recommending is not going to work without adding big spacers.

67Rally 02-06-2015 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideshow (Post 593342)
did you ask them if they can make you a 8" wheel ? my wheels are supposed to be 19" but i asked for 18" and they said thats fine.

That's good to know, was there a big charge for the change? Can they do custom offsets as well?

Sideshow 02-06-2015 07:45 AM

No charge for the change. Jake and I emailed and called each other about 50 times before we had something that we both taught that will work. They are custom up to a point because you pick the offset that you want and they say yes or no. It's not like they have standard backspace and they are already made. They custom make it, so there was a 7 week wait time.

OBeer-WAN-Kenobi 02-23-2015 12:12 PM

Well,
I ended up ordering the Forgestar 19" CF5V. I wanted 18's but I really didn't like the style of the F14's They were also able to get a little closer on the fitment in the 19" size.

So,
Fronts:
19x8.5 +10 offset
Rears:
19x9.5 +6 offset

Hopefully this will work out good.

Now I'm shopping for tires. Arg.....

69lsvert 03-06-2015 03:15 AM

What kinda price did you get them for? Was it close to your budget?

AMSOILGUY 03-06-2015 05:43 AM

Please post pictures once you get them mounted.

Dave Pratt 03-18-2015 01:48 PM

Really interested to know what the final price was for these wheels.They look great...

OBeer-WAN-Kenobi 04-15-2015 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 69lsvert (Post 597419)
What kinda price did you get them for? Was it close to your budget?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Pratt (Post 599148)
Really interested to know what the final price was for these wheels.They look great...

I'll be a little over the budget. It was a bit over $1550 shipped. That seems to be around the price most are quoting. I went with a vendor from a neighboring state so that I had someone close to home to deal with.

When they say 4-6 weeks, they weren't kidding. These are just finally shipping this week. They are a custom offset machined to order though so I suppose that's the deal. It's not like I was in a huge hurry anyway. Now the search for rubber is in earnest.

HELLCAMINO 04-15-2015 10:17 PM

TSW Amaroo with Nitto 555's>>>$1900 shipped

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...pstja0o6kv.jpg

TSW Valencia with Nitto 555's>>>$1500 shipped

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...pslhbpuujf.jpg

Here they are on a friends Camaro

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...psbtaz4nvg.jpg

OBeer-WAN-Kenobi 04-16-2015 06:43 AM

^
Did you order those special or use spacers/adapters?

I can't see where TSW offers the right offset or bolt hole pattern for a 69 Camaro, at least in those styles.

HELLCAMINO 04-16-2015 09:08 PM

The closest is the 120mm. I used hub/wheel centric rings to center wheel before installing lugs. I have custom milled 3/4" spacers for front and rear of the Chevelle and 1/2" for the rear of the Elco. I could have gotten wheel adapters but i already have 3" wheel studs installed. My buddies Camaro had spacers or adapters also.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...pscvziluso.jpg

OBeer-WAN-Kenobi 04-17-2015 06:38 AM

Ah, yup.
That's kind of important information for others who may be viewing this thread.
Thanks for posting. :thumbsup:

OBeer-WAN-Kenobi 06-22-2015 11:01 AM

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Well,

275/40R19's don't really fit which is why it took me so long to make an update to this thread.

I knew I'd have to trim the outer fender lip a little in the rear and that went off without a hitch. Unfortunately, I found that my choice of a 245/40R19 for the front was a bit agressive. It was the diameter that was the problem and it would rub on the back of the outer wheel well opening. Instead of messing with that, I just ordered 245/35R19's which fixed the problem.

Well, I thought I was home free but I then noticed some squeaking during fairly mild cornering and there was a definite rubbing going into driveways and such. It turns out that the rear tires were rubbing on the inner fender when the car was off square. So, if one wheel traveled downwards and the other traveled upwards, the higher tire would rub on the inner fender.

I thought maybe it wasn't too bad and I could do a little "massaging" but I found it was pretty bad actually, bad enough that I had to "micro tub" it, (at least that's what I'm calling it). Basically we cut out a portion of the inner fender and then I tested it by putting a 4" thick block of wood under a front tire and then jacking up the rear axle on the spring perch diagonally from the front tire with the block of wood. This showed how bad it really was. I didn't want to mess with a mini tub just yet as there are other panels I'd like to replace when I do that so we did the best we could.

Long story short, we were able to move the shock inwards by about 3/4" on each side and this allowed us to cut out enough metal to get around 1" more out of the inner fender. It's enough, but it's barely enough.

For those wanting to stay stock I can not recommend this tire size. As a matter of fact, I can't believe that you wouldn't have trouble with a 275/40R18 as well. Maybe if you had a lot stiffer suspension and a sway bar? I'm not sure. If you didn't run the chrome/stainless moldings on the outer fender well lip and trimmed it futher and rolled it, you may get the 18" tires to work with a backspacing that moves them out another 5/8" or so....but the 19's? I don't think so.

Anyway, the finished product looks really good:
Attachment 54702Attachment 54703
Attachment 54704

It does need to go lower though. However; I might have to minitub at that point....so I might as well wait until I have more money for suspension and brakes.


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