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71Nova 06-23-2006 09:07 PM

awwwww I am so jelous. I didn't know you were going to go with a 3 link. That is going to be so nice when done!!

Steve1968LS2 06-23-2006 09:37 PM

Just a fun shot.. I was bored.. lol

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/fun.jpg

Steve1968LS2 06-23-2006 09:44 PM

My wife is studying for a test tomorrow so I'm bored.. a pick of the finished steering. Orderded a custom length splined rod rather than a generic D rod.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/penny2.jpg

tndude 06-23-2006 09:47 PM

Looking good! :thumbsup:

awr68 06-23-2006 10:01 PM

HOw sweet it is!! I thought you were going to wait for the 3-link? Do some testing with both for a direct comparison?

Keep up the good work, that is one hell of a car!! :thumbsup:

Love the wheels!!!! ;)

Steve1968LS2 06-23-2006 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by awr68
HOw sweet it is!! I thought you were going to wait for the 3-link? Do some testing with both for a direct comparison?

Keep up the good work, that is one hell of a car!! :thumbsup:

Love the wheels!!!! ;)

The four-link was not safe to take on the track.. no way I'm gonna wad the car up for a test.. :willy:

tracy 06-23-2006 10:17 PM

That Wilwood MC looks great. Have you always been running without PBs? Are you happy with this?

Steve1968LS2 06-23-2006 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tracy
That Wilwood MC looks great. Have you always been running without PBs? Are you happy with this?

Yep.. I see no need for power brakes if your system is designed right. PB's were invented to help activate the brakes with less effort. This helped women and others work the braking systems easier. It's simply a force multiplier.

My '69 stopped great. You just had to push harder to get it to stop faster. the joke was:

car guy: How fast does it stop with manual brakes
me: As fast as you WANT it to stop

Plus I hate clutter and I like the more mechanical feel of manual brakes

tracy 06-23-2006 11:19 PM

I have been running manual brakes in my 69 and it worked fine. I am making many changes to the car right now and I was trying to decide to stick with Manual, Hydraboost or Vac..I think I will just keep it manual and see how that works out after I get back together. I really like the looks of the Wilwood MC.. I may have to spring for one of those.

Sales@Dutchboys 06-24-2006 04:15 AM

Like the setup steve looking good. :thumbsup:

-Paul

Speedster 06-24-2006 05:26 AM

Steve -
The brake and steering setup look great. Is that some custom plate that you had made to mount the master cylinder and a remote reservoir for a clutch ?

Steve1968LS2 06-24-2006 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedster
Steve -
The brake and steering setup look great. Is that some custom plate that you had made to mount the master cylinder and a remote reservoir for a clutch ?

That plate is from ATS and is GREAT for mounting the clutch master.. you can find their contact info on the left..

radrambler 06-24-2006 08:03 AM

Oh Yeah
 
Penny Looked Good Before

Now She Should Perform Like She Looks...wicked!!!!

Are You Excited?.....all The Latest Goods Under Your Latest Ride....
Hell, Id Be Pumped .....do You Have An Aprox Finish Date????

Looking Good ....keep Posting...

Radrambler

mazspeed 06-24-2006 09:07 AM

Steve, the car looks great. I have to AGAIN steal your ideas on how to rebuild mine in the winter :D

Speedster 06-24-2006 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
That plate is from ATS and is GREAT for mounting the clutch master.. you can find their contact info on the left..

Thanks Steve. :thumbsup: I will contact them/Tyler.

Rybar 06-24-2006 11:45 AM

Steve, it's looking real good. Those pictures you are taking are great! :thumbsup:

Steve1968LS2 06-26-2006 05:04 PM

Well, it's in. :woot:

The front support is the toughest part. Mark got it installed in about 4-5 hours. It's mainly a "cut.. test fit.. cut.. test fit" until its right. My narrowed rear is on the way and once it's powder painted it can all get installed. Not any tougher than installing mini-tubs.

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/siihp/lateral.jpg

Sales@Dutchboys 06-26-2006 07:57 PM

looks sweet under their. great job.

-Paul

tyoneal 06-26-2006 11:09 PM

Steve:

Your car loooks great. As soon as your build is finished, be sure and let us know how she handles, and how Penny is different than what you would normally expect with a stock rear.

Thanks again, :thumbsup:

tyoneal

evilzee28 06-27-2006 12:59 AM

Steve, looking at the picture of the car from the rear is that the final height the suspension bracketry sits at? The reason I ask is that the perpendicular arm that's visible on the passenger side appears to be below the scrub line ie it's hanging lower than the rim of the wheel. If it is, this is very dangerous, as if you have a blowout on the rear the car won't run on the tyre but the suspension arm instead which could be catastrophic. Maybe it's just the angle the pics taken from, but worth checking all the same :) looking good though.

71Nova 06-27-2006 01:45 AM

The wheels that are on Penny in the picture are smaller diameter than the wheels that are going to be on the car. My guess is that those wheels are just for moving Penny around while work is being done to her.

evilzee28 06-27-2006 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 71Nova
The wheels that are on Penny in the picture are smaller diameter than the wheels that are going to be on the car. My guess is that those wheels are just for moving Penny around while work is being done to her.

I figured that they were smaller diameter for rolling the car at this stage, but if you sight where the bottom of the bracket is in the pic it's very marginal even with larger dia tyres. It might well be the angle of the pic, but still worth making sure it's ok. If you do have to run larger diameter tyres with that set up to avoid the bracketry being below the scrub line, then it's a dangerous bit of kit & potential purchasers should be made aware by the company that manufactured it that it requires larger dia wheels/tyres to work safely. Is it that the brackets are temporary & supporting the cars weight in place of the coilovers?? Even if this is the case, the bolt still looks too low.hth Please tell me I'm wrong ;)

68protouring454 06-27-2006 05:17 AM

ecilz
 
you seem to be a real hero at whatever you set your mind too, damn a painting genious now a susp designer, since your so smart, i cannot believe your own eyes did not see the 18 inch rim on the front of the car, or better yet in all the other pics of the car you can see what the rear wheels are, or even better then that my post about the 3 link and the direct behind the car view of this susp, when is your hitting the market?
and again being so savvy as you, this is a pro touring site, and you need to have 17-18 tires for the most performance as well as needing really 18's nowadays to fit the 14/13 inch brake set ups, so i would say they have things covered, last i checked they have said multiple times that this kit needs at least a 17 inch tire.
and my guess from actualling reading this thread like a normal one does is that steve is waiting on his custom width axle so he does not have to do a backspace change to his wheels, so more then likely its a lateral dynamics stock width rear, where as he needs it to be a bit shorter,thus needing his killer racing wheel rear tires on there, did you actually read any of this thread????????????

Payton King 06-27-2006 06:46 AM

Steve you are making me very Jealous!
 
The rear looks great. Will you still be able to run the exhaust that was on the car or will you need to modify it?

Steve1968LS2 06-27-2006 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by evilzee28
Steve, looking at the picture of the car from the rear is that the final height the suspension bracketry sits at? The reason I ask is that the perpendicular arm that's visible on the passenger side appears to be below the scrub line ie it's hanging lower than the rim of the wheel. If it is, this is very dangerous, as if you have a blowout on the rear the car won't run on the tyre but the suspension arm instead which could be catastrophic. Maybe it's just the angle the pics taken from, but worth checking all the same :) looking good though.

Keep in mind this is just so we can roll the car around.. nothing is set up and there aren't even shocks on the car yet. I have seen a "finished" system and no part hangs near or below the rim of the wheel :)

Steve1968LS2 06-27-2006 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Payton King
The rear looks great. Will you still be able to run the exhaust that was on the car or will you need to modify it?

Yes, but not without a redesign. The old system went straigth out and will have to pop up over the axle. Hell, I might redesign the whole thing. I dug the NASCAR tips but I would rather have good handling than a cool looking exhaust

Steve1968LS2 06-27-2006 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 68protouring454
steve is waiting on his custom width axle so he does not have to do a backspace change to his wheels, so more then likely its a lateral dynamics stock width rear,

Bingo :)

Also, the bar that is holding up the car (in place of the yet to arrive shocks) hangs lower than the shock will. I think I said that earlier..

Anyways.. here's a more done system. I think thier newer design even has more clearance than this.

http://www.lateral-dynamics.com/gall...ed/Mopar01.jpg

evilzee28 06-27-2006 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
Keep in mind this is just so we can roll the car around.. nothing is set up and there aren't even shocks on the car yet. I have seen a "finished" system and no part hangs near or below the rim of the wheel :)

Thanks for the honest reply Steve, unlike other knuckleheads that frequent this forum that think they're being smart with their disrespectful comments. :)

Mean 69 06-27-2006 08:22 AM

The unit shown under the purple Mopar is the original design, this particular car uses 20" wheels so the bracket height was not an issue. We have gone back and snugged things up, but the setup will still require a minimum of a 17" wheel in the back for clearance to ground in case of catastrophic tire failure. The lower control arm bracket and shock bracket were moved up a bit, the change on the geometry was minimal, and there is no reduction in suspensions travel as a result of the slight tweak. Steve pointed out that the flat bar is just a strap to hold the car off of the ground so we can roll it around while the "real" rear end is being completed and powder coated.

Mark

Matt@Lateral Dynamics 06-27-2006 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by evilzee28
Please tell me I'm wrong ;)

Okie dokie. :)

68protouring454 06-27-2006 09:56 AM

disrespectfull, maybe alittle, however why not read whats in front of your own eyes and look at the pics a bit closer before you jump on some make shift bandwagon

Steve1968LS2 06-27-2006 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by evilzee28
Thanks for the honest reply Steve, unlike other knuckleheads that frequent this forum that think they're being smart with their disrespectful comments. :)

No offense, but you've had your share of being the "knucklehead" in theads.. I thought your name seemed familiar so I looked up some of your comments.

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Originally Posted by evilzee28
EXACTLY, people are afraid to "use" their cars in case they get dirty, so why do you all need the bragging rights of big engines, wild suspension & brakes when all the car is gonna do is hold down grass at a show. Whoopey do!! All show, no go!

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Originally Posted by evilzee28
This is just a back patters association

So, looks like you can dish it out.. a phrase about people in glass houses not throwing stones comes to mind.. now you and Jake behave or I will exercise my massive mod powers :D

evilzee28 06-27-2006 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 68protouring454
disrespectfull, maybe alittle, however why not read whats in front of your own eyes and look at the pics a bit closer before you jump on some make shift bandwagon

Jake, the only reason I posted the reply was because looking at the picture the point where the bolt goes through the bracket "looks" lower than the scrub line & if that were the case I felt it to be dangerous.Certainly wouldn't want to see Penny have a nasty accident due to a blow out if that were the case. If you look at my post it also says that I realise that the wheels are only on there to roll the car around. I also mentioned about the coilovers not being on there, plus I did say it might be the angle of the pic, so at no time was I trying to be smart about it.I've not seen it say that you must run 17" wheels or bigger,maybe I missed it, but by the same token someone with 15"/16" wheels might order the kit without realising this also,...who knows?

Steve, yeah I've been a knucklehead for sure. I'm sure that everyone says or does something they may later regret at somepoint in their lives. I've said things here & in the cold light of day regreted them. It's just that unfortunately I have a very quick temper & when I've been verbally attacked here in the past I've retaliated by posting how I feel right at that time, without taking time out to let my anger subside. I didn't post on this thread to be slagged off by someone, I did it out of concern...Sorry :thumbsup:

Steve1968LS2 06-27-2006 11:45 AM

ok.. both people said thier peace.. now back to me, me, me.. :rofl:

All further off-topic comments will be sent back to the random protons from which they came.

68protouring454 06-27-2006 11:50 AM

either way steve my car is gonna be way more badass,lol
:yes:

Steve1968LS2 06-27-2006 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 68protouring454
either way steve my car is gonna be way more badass,lol
:yes:

Yea, you keep thinking that skippy.. I noticed you had them hard tires on there.. Don't they sell sticky tires out east?.. :P

race-rodz 06-27-2006 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
Yea, you keep thinking that skippy.. I noticed you had them hard tires on there.. Don't they sell sticky tires out east?.. :P


some people gotta buy tires that work in the rain...not everybody gets to live in 364.5 days of sunshine and dry pavement :lol:

Steve1968LS2 06-27-2006 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by race-rodz
some people gotta buy tires that work in the rain...not everybody gets to live in 364.5 days of sunshine and drive pavement :lol:

Rain?? :cool:

race-rodz 06-27-2006 12:25 PM

just wait till you see jakes studded 345's for winter driving :rofl:

Damn True 06-27-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by race-rodz
just wait till you see jakes studded 345's for winter driving :rofl:


....a must have for dragging ones ice-fishing shack out onto the frozen lake.


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