Lateral-g Forums

Lateral-g Forums (https://www.lateral-g.net/forums/index.php)
-   Project Updates (https://www.lateral-g.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16)
-   -   69 Z06 Camaro (https://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php?t=49216)

Sonar Chief 02-14-2015 09:26 PM

Awesome build going here ....

Question, where did you get the shims/ spacers for the upper control arms? Different widths?

Thanks,

Michael

spode 02-14-2015 09:48 PM

On the rotisserie to finish up some welding. Then Harbor Freight dollies and stands to keep it mobile. Started hanging body panels. The inner fender wells have to be raised 2.5" for ride height and widened 3" each side for track. Plan is to run it full width. I did end up re-drilling and narrowing the track width by 3/4" in the back. Car will be widened 6" in back and 5.5" up front. Every time I thought I had an idea how to make that work I would hang the body panels and not like the results. So I would move on to something else till I could come up with another idea. Eventually I decided to widened the tail panel 2", that really helped the rear of the car.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7483/...6a538e48_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7525/...209681ba_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3939/...225f3bee_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3939/...6239c311_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7477/...d10cc6f7_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3949/...a55602d4_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3956/...8f79620d_o.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5616/...95590812_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7485/...4cdc7714_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7539/...f67fdc12_o.jpg


Starting to look like a Camaro again. :excited:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7512/...45909549_o.jpg

spode 02-14-2015 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 594719)
Awesome build going here ....

Question, where did you get the shims/ spacers for the upper control arms? Different widths?

Thanks,

Michael


I made the aluminum bushings for spherical bearings to replace the rubber. I looked all over for cross ties to go through the bearing but it seems nobody sells them. Can't remember (either Chassis Works, Roadster Shop or Art Morrison) posted how they make them so I gave it a try. I'm not sure if that will be what I end up using. I drilled everything stock C6 spacing so I can always go back to stock if wanted.
I hope that is what your asking.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3953/...94ce55be_o.jpg

Jeff

Vince@Meanstreets 02-14-2015 10:01 PM

exactly what I was thinking too Jeff. looking great!!!!

Sonar Chief 02-14-2015 10:04 PM

Jeff .... I was wondering about the shims between the mounting bolts and the plates for the upper control arms, looks like about 1/2 inch?

spode 02-14-2015 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 594724)
exactly what I was thinking too Jeff. looking great!!!!

I had read and seen how you did one on here. I think you even mentioned about moving the lights out. So many good ideas here. I was thinking that was the direction I needed to go but after seeing the one you did it confirmed it for me. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 594725)
Jeff .... I was wondering about the shims between the mounting bolts and the plates for the upper control arms, looks like about 1/2 inch?

Those are just some aluminum spacers I cut to get the alignment close. Nothing final on that yet and I might change the way the control arm mounts to the frame anyway. I spent a whole day making a mounting system for the control arms then decided I didn't like it. Ended up making these and might end up using the original idea after all. :hairpullout: LOL


Jeff

Track Junky 02-15-2015 12:02 PM

Wow!! Great work!! Great choice for wheels!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by spode (Post 594722)


spode 02-15-2015 10:27 PM

Figured it was time to start thinking of brakes. Decided on Wilwood stuff and as the Aero6 calipers had just come out that was the direction i was thinking. I liked the floating hats but noticed the mounting hardware was different. I made a call to Wilwood to see what was different between the brackets but didn't really get a clear answer. That was fine as the floating was more $$$ and I figured it wasn't really necessary. They did say that Summit would know how to order the Aero6 calipers instead of the W6A that was standard at that time. I called Summit and gave them the part number for the kit and the part numbers for the calipers I wanted to switch too. The guy wasn't sure how to do that but took my number and would call me back. :whistling: After waiting a day it was clear they weren't calling back. I had to look around here but I remembered someone getting their brakes from Ron Sutton. A quick google search for his name came up with nothing. :wacko: I don't know if I was blind or he didn't have his contact in his signature yet but I had to find the posting that showed the box that had his business name on it. The next day made a call to Ron, I got all my answers and lot more info then I ever hoped for. He put a brake package together for me with prices that where very reasonable and brakes were on there way. I have sense had him do a complete suspension review with sway-bar and spring recommendations.

:ups:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3944/...448449d4_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7391/...fd704e46_o.jpg

Vince@Meanstreets 02-15-2015 10:31 PM

You can never go wrong with Sutton!!

GregWeld 02-15-2015 10:41 PM

I never got a hat.

Vince@Meanstreets 02-15-2015 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 594868)
I never got a hat.

LOL, you can have Gaetano's.

C5 rear fender liners in the for sale section

Track Junky 02-16-2015 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 594866)
You can never go wrong with Sutton!!

X2!! Ron hooked me up with a set of shocks with his "secret sauce" and they were just what the doctor ordered. :thumbsup:

Track Junky 02-16-2015 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 594869)
LOL, you can have Gaetano's.

C5 rear fender liners in the for sale section

That's a negative. Greg aint getting my hat!!

spode 02-16-2015 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 594868)
I never got a hat.

Damm, I forgot the Waiver.

Waiver
ASSUMPTION OF RISKS: Participant understands that operating a car at or near the speeds at which it is capable of presents inherent and inevitable risks that can never be completely eliminated. Factors beyond our control will affect the operational safety of the vehicle under these conditions. Such factors include, but are not limited to: (a) the skill and experience of the driver; (b) the performance of inspections, maintenance procedures, and repairs; (c) weather, lighting, and track conditions; (d) the presence of other operating cars; (e) the presence of other drivers, (f) the health, physical and mental condition of the driver and (g) the speed at which a car is driven.
Hat not included.
:rules:

Jeff

bonecrrusher 02-16-2015 08:17 PM

I see Pfadt coilovers up front - what you doing for the rear?

You using there trans mounts too?

spode 02-16-2015 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonecrrusher (Post 594994)
I see Pfadt coilovers up front - what you doing for the rear?

You using there trans mounts too?

Pfadt coilovers all the way around. I got them just before Pfadt went under. I had heard good things about them before but not so good lately. Pfadt has sense reopened in Corona. The good thing is I should be about to adapt just about any C6 coilover set up if needed.
Pfadt trans mounts and Hinson engine mounts.


Jeff

bonecrrusher 02-17-2015 05:29 AM

I have there swaybars and coilovers - nothing too bad to say just yet...

I did see they reopen - but looks like they are just making headers again.

bhcustomdesigns 02-17-2015 06:13 AM

Awesome build,very nice work!:thumbsup:

efs69 02-17-2015 01:06 PM

Jeff,

This is one hell of a build. Looks great! I am in Notth OC. I'd like to check it out if I could.

Efrain

spode 02-17-2015 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhcustomdesigns (Post 595030)
Awesome build,very nice work!:thumbsup:

Thanks :thankyou:

Quote:

Originally Posted by efs69 (Post 595084)
Jeff,
This is one hell of a build. Looks great! I am in Notth OC. I'd like to check it out if I could.
Efrain

Send me a PM.

spode 02-17-2015 10:27 PM

The car is kinda low so getting the front wheels room to turn means widening the front too. Some one posted this picture and it made me think the stepped front fender might work. I mocked it up (quick and dirty) but it didn't look right to me, so while I thought about that issue I moved on to other items.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8627/...1d00960a_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3938/...eef5a7ff_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7574/...0168a918_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7480/...ddd5c17b_o.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3948/...f96b22a2_o.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5615/...87102642_o.jpg

spode 02-17-2015 10:38 PM

Headers, I had to get some tighter bends for some of it and I wish I was more consistent with my welds. :bang:
Room is tight so decide to use a Tri-Y design.


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3950/...7205bb16_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7554/...37e071b9_o.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8604/...9743cdc3_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3954/...600ec847_o.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5599/...a70a50d1_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3939/...1efb8f31_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7512/...422fdcba_o.jpg

spode 02-17-2015 10:46 PM

More

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7505/...7f001a09_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7560/...ece82a08_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3939/...b060eefa_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7494/...40d2ba0d_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7511/...b344c2c0_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7474/...6056d572_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3945/...3c3c374f_o.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5602/...ebf21820_o.jpg

Build-It-Break-it 02-17-2015 11:15 PM

Wow great work, where in socal are you located? LoOKs like Victorville. You using a thermal arc 186? I have one and love it.

Vince@Meanstreets 02-17-2015 11:29 PM

Man if you are ever looking for work....I wanna get the band back together. :thankyou:

Track Junky 02-18-2015 12:14 AM

That's $$$ right there. Nice work. Going to have to make some tough choices on the front widening. Flaring wont match the rear. Going to have to do your homework on that one. I'd probably try a combination of fender stretching but then pinch it at the door so that it wouldn't appear so pronounced. Either way looks like the biggest challenge I see. Might want to pick up a couple pairs of junk fenders if you can find them and play around with a few different scenarios.


LXSS350 02-18-2015 09:51 AM

WOW great work. You have to be proud the car looks very tough and well built. You should have one very nice ride when you are finished.

LS7 Z/28 02-18-2015 11:10 AM

How much more width are you looking for? Maybe the Anvil widebody fenders will give you enough room so you don't have to mess around experimenting with metal. It's going to be tough to make them look decent. Good work and good luck going forward.

spode 02-18-2015 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-it (Post 595190)
Wow great work, where in socal are you located? LoOKs like Victorville. You using a thermal arc 186? I have one and love it.

I'm in OC. The Thermal Arc is the first tig I've owned, picked it up 2 years ago and so far I like it, although I have nothing to compere it to. The fan is super loud.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 595193)
Man if you are ever looking for work....I wanna get the band back together. :thankyou:

I have a good job right now but if things continue the route they are going we my need to talk. :rockin: LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by LXSS350 (Post 595280)
WOW great work. You have to be proud the car looks very tough and well built. You should have one very nice ride when you are finished.

Thanks, it took a while before I decide to post it here. So many top quality builds, but so many good ideas and help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 595195)
That's $$$ right there. Nice work. Going to have to make some tough choices on the front widening. Flaring wont match the rear. Going to have to do your homework on that one. I'd probably try a combination of fender stretching but then pinch it at the door so that it wouldn't appear so pronounced. Either way looks like the biggest challenge I see. Might want to pick up a couple pairs of junk fenders if you can find them and play around with a few different scenarios.

So far I've cut up a couple fenders and a door, (rusted out junk for you hardcore OEMs) :underchair: I'll get that posted soon and that should get me close to where I am now. Trying to get the rocker panels right is the latest. Ironworks has some nice ones on the Camaro they are building.

Jeff

spode 02-18-2015 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS7 Z/28 (Post 595291)
How much more width are you looking for? Maybe the Anvil widebody fenders will give you enough room so you don't have to mess around experimenting with metal. It's going to be tough to make them look decent. Good work and good luck going forward.

Thought about those but I need 2 1/2 on each side. Even thought about their fiberglass ones so I could cut and modify to get more out of them. Plus I needed to widen the front enough to match the rear.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7527/...d3aff7b7_o.jpg

LS7 Z/28 02-18-2015 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spode (Post 595293)
Thought about those but I need 2 1/2 on each side. Even thought about their fiberglass ones so I could cut and modify to get more out of them. Plus I needed to widen the front enough to match the rear.

Yeah that's what I was thinking too, get the glass ones and modify them. That's the route I would go. Not sure how that front suspension is set up but most of the guys with low '69's are getting away with fender clearance partly because they are taking advanatge of negative camber. The fender style line is iconic so I'm guessing you don't want to lose that but it's also a pain when you want the car low with fat tires. The '67 & 8's are just more fitting for flared out fenders with those big round openings. It's all a compromise I guess. Most of the guys I've seen that have their cars down in the dirt have to run pretty small front tires.

spode 02-26-2015 10:36 PM

Anvil had their blem blowout sale going. I had no intentions of getting carbon fiber parts but after calling them I put some $$$ together and headed down. Ended up with a header panel, hood, cowl, trunk and spoiler for less than their retail hood price. After getting those pieces it was time to figure out the fenders. It did feel a little odd cutting up new pieces even if they are aftermarket.


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3949/...68fdaf77_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3942/...30911aa1_o.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5606/...e2d471f3_o.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8544/...f93aa85a_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3954/...be40b70d_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3937/...a2ea847e_o.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8602/...1dfdd646_o.jpg

spode 02-26-2015 11:03 PM

Still a lot of metal work to go but at least it is starting come together.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7464/...3980d825_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7527/...d3aff7b7_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7541/...3f1ba4c2_o.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8683/...0db3e6d7_o.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8577/...d8c8e698_o.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7493/...ba9cc924_o.jpg
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3939/...73e3d884_o.jpg
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5600/...05b542cd_o.jpg

Vince@Meanstreets 02-26-2015 11:49 PM

looks like you got it. nice

Build-It-Break-it 02-27-2015 12:11 AM

If you went with a flat face rim like a Forgestar, could you of prevented the wide body?

Chassisworks 02-27-2015 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-it (Post 596469)
If you went with a flat face rim like a Forgestar, could you of prevented the wide body?

It needs the flat face/high offset rim for the suspension to work properly. Just like a Corvette does.

Sonar Chief 02-27-2015 08:35 AM

Looks innocent enough ..... what ya doing to the roof? jk!!!!!

Great job, shees coming together nicely!

Che70velle 02-27-2015 08:54 AM

Wow, that's an incredible amount of metal work. You've got skills!
This is my favorite build right now.

Flash68 02-27-2015 09:32 AM

Love what's your doing here.... keep truckin.

dhutton 02-27-2015 01:54 PM

Amazing build, and in a garage no less.

Don


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:38 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Lateral-g.net