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tmadden 06-30-2015 06:08 PM

Looks great

jeds 08-31-2015 12:16 PM

Well...seeing as how I've been running this project without any REAL plan, I figured it would be good to get the direction hammered out. I ended up getting in touch with Ben Hermance a while back and decided to work with him on a rendering that I could stick to throughout the build. I desperately needed this to give me some sense of direction, otherwise I would keep changing things and continue wasting time and money.

I didn't give him much direction other than overall influence/theme, and that I wanted to finally get more rubber under a Nova (give me flares without ruining the car). I am more than pleased with the final out come. Eventually I'll need to find a shop that can take this on. I would like to stick to the PNW, but we'll see. Anyways....

Here it is. I welcome all feedback good or bad!

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psznwywdk0.jpg

Dave95z28 08-31-2015 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeds (Post 610079)
I've been exploring motor options still. These are the two starting points I've been looking at:

~11.5k. Mast black label ls3 416 long block. It comes with Callies H-Beam rods, Callies crank, diamond pistons, etc...

~7k. Lingenfelter 417 short block. It comes with Callies dragon slayer crank, JE pistons, Oliver I-beam rods.


I haven't seen what rods/crank mast is using as it is not specified. I assume compstar?

Is the extra cost worth it to start with the Lingenfelter short block?

Anyone have experience with either company?

You might check out options from SDPC. At one time they were offering LS3 based 396s and 427s for just under $8k for a long block. With the CNC LS3 GM Castings I think the 427 was rated at something like 615HP. They don't advertise them on their website. But they advertise them at the shows they attend and multiple vehicle forums every once in a while.
Dave

JayR 08-31-2015 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeds (Post 615354)
Well...seeing as how I've been running this project without any REAL plan, I figured it would be good to get the direction hammered out. I ended up getting in touch with Ben Hermance a while back and decided to work with him on a rendering that I could stick to throughout the build. I desperately needed this to give me some sense of direction, otherwise I would keep changing things and continue wasting time and money.

I didn't give him much direction other than overall influence/theme, and that I wanted to finally get more rubber under a Nova (give me flares without ruining the car). I am more than pleased with the final out come. Eventually I'll need to find a shop that can take this on. I would like to stick to the PNW, but we'll see. Anyways....

Here it is. I welcome all feedback good or bad!

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psznwywdk0.jpg

Killer project and concept! You dove right in! JRod and Custom in Auburn (Lat-g screen name J-Rod&Custom) can handle anything you need from making the sheetmetal flares from scratch, bodywork and painting it, to plumbing and welding and whatever else you need but the interior. Check out the other Nova he built https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=47552

jeds 09-02-2015 07:12 AM

Well...motor plans mellowed out for now. The boss convinced me to drive something more manageable to start out and "upgrade" later if I really feel the need. Motor showed up yesterday. Pretty simple LS3. About 550 fwhp.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psst9it0tz.jpg

Ketzer 09-02-2015 11:59 AM

Love it!

jeds 09-02-2015 06:19 PM

Gas tank showed up after a bit of a snafu with a tank mixup. Ricks and MCB went above and beyond to fix the issue and the turn around was extremely quick. Both are top notch.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...pszsf8znqk.jpg

Vince@Meanstreets 09-02-2015 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeds (Post 615547)
Well...motor plans mellowed out for now. The boss convinced me to drive something more manageable to start out and "upgrade" later if I really feel the need. Motor showed up yesterday. Pretty simple LS3. About 550 fwhp.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psst9it0tz.jpg

very nice!!! Yes, manageble is fun too.

A Wegner Black diamond cut LS drive system would look bad assss on that engine!!

jeds 09-11-2015 10:16 AM

For better or worse, I have new tires on the way....

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...pssfopnvr4.png

Scrub radius should get interesting...Time to warm up the cutoff wheel and get ready to make some room! :superhack:

Anyone need 2 19x11 Formula43 wheels? :P

98ssnova 09-11-2015 10:19 AM

Why did you change to a 18" wheel?

jeds 09-11-2015 10:31 AM

Introducing the flares got me to look at wider tire fitment (front and rear). The change in tire width drastically limited my options in 19". It gets even worse when you are looking at >=200TW.

It was simply because there are more tire options in 18". That or I secretly like doing everything 4x times before settling...sigh...

98ssnova 09-11-2015 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeds (Post 616295)
Introducing the flares got me to look at wider tire fitment (front and rear). The change in tire width drastically limited my options in 19". It gets even worse when you are looking at >=200TW.

It was simply because there are more tire options in 18". That or I secretly like doing everything 4x times before settling...sigh...

HA thank funny but cool That is what I though. I think visually it would look better with the 19 rear but you gotta do what you gotta do.:thumbsup:

jeds 09-11-2015 11:22 AM

I agree with you on the aesthetic. 19" do look better. As far as filling the wheel opening though, I'll be gaining tire height.

Going to a 335/18 vs 305/19 I'll only lose <1/3" in diameter.

jeds 09-20-2015 02:30 PM

Radiator came in this week. Got it assembled and installed.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps9c4kiozv.jpghttp://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...pszhwih5gr.jpg

Any suggestions on where to mount the oil cooler? Is it cool to mount it smack in the middle of the AC condensor or will I be restricting too much air flow?
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psgwyic4ao.jpghttp://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps15dxtutv.jpg

andrewb70 09-20-2015 03:33 PM

Why is the oil cooler so big? Is that really necessary?

Andrew

jeds 09-20-2015 04:04 PM

:EmoteClueless:
Im not familiar with sizing cooling systems.

I ordered the radiator/coolers together and gave them (Autorad) intended usage (road and track) and max power output (700hp) I would need to support down the line and this is what they built.

It looks huge to me too. Maybe I trusted them too much?

98ssnova 09-21-2015 02:27 PM

Are you going to run a dry sump like the ls7 maybe that's why the cooler is so big.

jeds 09-21-2015 02:56 PM

I did tell them I will eventually use dry sump.

Eh...I'll find a place to put it.

Moabdude 09-30-2015 02:09 PM

Nice!

I am working on a 69 Nova project. It has minitubs 14"of room in the tubs.
Thinking of 19x12 with 325/30/19 in the rear. Did you consider this also?

jeds 09-30-2015 04:40 PM

Moabdude,

I did. I ran into the same issue.

When looking around, I wanted to have a decent 200TW selection as well as 315 or 335 18"(front) tires. I couldn't find a good selection that would fit those requirements AND have a 19" tire to go along with it out back.

In the end, if the sizes I chose end up being a complete handling nightmare (quite possible), I'll re-evaluate. I'll keep the 19s around just incase things change and I end up wanting/needing to use them.

Chevette 09-30-2015 05:22 PM

Wow! I like what you're doing.
 
This is going to be a great car. Good luck going forward.

jeds 12-08-2015 06:48 AM

Slow progress....

I spent some time sorting out parallel and concentric alignment on the bell-housing. I ended up with a few shims to get things within spec. The concentric measurements were good to go so there was no need to get offset dowels.

Ordered up a clutch and go it installed. It's a Monster LT1-S. It's basically a C7 clutch with a custom billet steel flywheel and some other little bits. I've heard good things about it so I thought I'd give it a go.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psnfeojysj.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psltqlvozx.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps4iedkbli.jpg


Also got around to bolting on the new rim halves to widen the front wheels.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...pswpwswmmx.jpg


Do these tires make me look fat?

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps5luu6dwp.jpg


My slave cylinder shows up today. With any luck, I'll have the engine/trans installed in the car by the end of the weekend

98ssnova 12-08-2015 11:13 AM

Are you going to run a front inner wheel well with the 315? Didn't think Novas had a big enough inner.

jeds 12-08-2015 11:21 AM

It's a 335 in the front.

I'll be running an inner fender, but it will be a one off. The plan is to have removable panels bolted to the soon-to-be cage down bars.

Honestly, at the ride height the car will be at, I wouldn't have been able to use stock inner fenders anyways.

WSSix 12-09-2015 02:57 PM

Yes, those do make your front look fat, and that's a good thing! Glad to see progress being made. Keep up the good work!

jeds 12-14-2015 05:56 PM

Motor/transmission are in. Looks like I'm going to have to do some firewall work to allow proper clearance for the fuel rail feed line...oh well, probably wouldn't hurt to add some additional clearance behind the motor anyways.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psleqgadnn.jpg

63RamblerClassic 12-14-2015 06:46 PM

Looks so aggressive. Love it.

Vince@Meanstreets 12-14-2015 10:48 PM

thats some gum balls man.

jeds 06-02-2016 09:13 AM

Well...I made the decision to dial-it-back a bit. I won't be doing fender flares after-all.

This is my first build and I feel like I've been over reaching and convincing myself to cram every possible idea into the car. I had to take a step back and remember what the car is being built for. I was in danger of getting myself into a position where the car would be in a perpetual state of modification (not drivable).

Anyways. I had some frustration with back spacing being slightly off on my wheels once ride height was set. It just wasn't going to work. So I put a wheel fit tool to use and got new wheels on. So far, the fit is bang-on.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...pshzpnqq58.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psatd1mspq.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps7rxonq0z.jpg

jeds 06-02-2016 09:14 AM

Got some ultimate headers and brake booster mocked up. The fit leaves TONS of room.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psktha5fsz.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psis4iatjh.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psv1ipze3h.jpg

jeds 06-02-2016 09:14 AM

IQ3s, flush mount bezel, and sheet metal dash showed up. Excited to test the fit the dash this weekend. Fingers crossed it's a better fit than the plastic inserts kicking around.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psxa3sd0qv.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps5d0tfb4l.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...pscfa3m259.jpg

jeds 06-02-2016 09:19 AM

I also received a few bits from AMD...the main piece being a new passenger side quarter panel. I'm a bit nervous to cut into the car, but it's time to sack up and learn something new.

I've done metal work in the past...just not much sheet metal work...and never panel replacements.

:superhack:

98ssnova 06-02-2016 09:53 AM

Where did you get the metal dash insert?

jeds 06-02-2016 10:10 AM

http://www.performancevehicleworks.com/

The site is terrible and there are no pictures posted of the dashes they offer...

They are a bit spendy...but still cheaper than say...a DSE dash.

Dave95z28 06-02-2016 01:28 PM

Very interested in seeing how the dash insert works out. I am thinking about running a Nova style dash in my 69 Camaro. I believe all I have to do is run a Nova style dash pad. I am looking to get rid of the Camaro hump in the center of the top of the dash to make it easier to run an IQ3S or Holley Street Dash.

David

Bad94 06-02-2016 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeds (Post 638539)
http://www.performancevehicleworks.com/

The site is terrible and there are no pictures posted of the dashes they offer...

They are a bit spendy...but still cheaper than say...a DSE dash.


I hope you can get the dash to fit. I ordered one for my car, fit very poorly, sent it back and went with Anvil Carbon Fiber.

jeds 06-02-2016 02:24 PM

Well...that sucks. I guess I'll find out here shortly.

What was the issue with the fit?

Sheck44 06-03-2016 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave95z28 (Post 638551)
Very interested in seeing how the dash insert works out. I am thinking about running a Nova style dash in my 69 Camaro. I believe all I have to do is run a Nova style dash pad. I am looking to get rid of the Camaro hump in the center of the top of the dash to make it easier to run an IQ3S or Holley Street Dash.

David

Dave .. exactly what I'm doing .. sent you a PM
Cheers
Steve

LanceL 06-06-2016 06:16 PM

Jeds, i have a 69 i am doing. What was the wheel fit tool? Thanks

jeds 06-06-2016 07:21 PM

LanceL,

I used the wheel fit tool- http://www.thewheelfit.com/home.html

It worked....but I wasn't impressed. There is a lot of play in the tool and I felt like I had to measure 10 times before I had some confidence in the numbers.


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