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MetalWorksClassics 12-11-2015 04:38 PM

Getting ready for epoxy
 
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Prepping the body for epoxy.

MetalWorksClassics 12-14-2015 01:49 PM

Epoxy
 
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Coat of epoxy...

awr68 12-15-2015 01:58 PM

Nice and clean! Waiting on the new tail pan? What rear suspension?

MetalWorksClassics 12-15-2015 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by awr68 (Post 624617)
Nice and clean! Waiting on the new tail pan? What rear suspension?

Thanks...the rear tail pan goes in next, then we will begin the mock up of the front and rear suspension...the rear setup is a 4 bar by Ridetech.

DOOM 12-16-2015 04:06 PM

Love when they get brought back from the dead!!!! Keep the updates coming.

waynieZ 12-17-2015 07:40 AM

It looks nice all epoxied, what are you using to prep the metal?

MetalWorksClassics 12-18-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 624789)
It looks nice all epoxied, what are you using to prep the metal?

We scuff all the surfaces, then treat it with wax & grease remover, then do a final wipe down before shooting the epoxy.

MetalWorksClassics 12-21-2015 01:40 PM

Tail pan install
 
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Here we are installing the new tail pan.

awr68 12-21-2015 03:08 PM

Looks like a car now! Metal on the car looks to fit well...that's always nice!

DKz Garage 12-21-2015 07:14 PM

Great to see the quality work going into this car....keep the updates coming!

MetalWorksClassics 12-22-2015 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by classiccamaro (Post 625208)
Great to see the quality work going into this car....keep the updates coming!

Thanks a lot guys, we appreciate it...

MetalWorksClassics 12-22-2015 03:03 PM

Floors
 
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The next big step was floors...we removed the seat risers, welded in the new floors sections, then put the original risers back in place.

MetalWorksClassics 12-22-2015 03:05 PM

Finished floors
 
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Here are a few more pics...

preston 12-22-2015 03:17 PM

Looks good and this is not a comment on your shop/work at all, but I've never understood the point of grinding down welds that will be covered in sound damping and carpet. For me personally I find grinding down welds to be extremely tedious and time consuming. Obviously required on things that get paint or Ridler contenders but always seemed so pointless on floors, especially considering you actually lose some theoretical strength.

Is that just considered part of the process of doing a quality job ? I mean there is no functional reason to grind down internal hidden welds is there ?

98ssnova 12-22-2015 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by preston (Post 625287)
Looks good and this is not a comment on your shop/work at all, but I've never understood the point of grinding down welds that will be covered in sound damping and carpet. For me personally I find grinding down welds to be extremely tedious and time consuming. Obviously required on things that get paint or Ridler contenders but always seemed so pointless on floors, especially considering you actually lose some theoretical strength.

Is that just considered part of the process of doing a quality job ? I mean there is no functional reason to grind down internal hidden welds is there ?


From my own standpoint I would say pride in knowing I did the job to what I would want it to be. Leaving them as is I would know they were not done a 100%. I know that nobody will ever see them but to me it's about craftsmanship/quality of your work.:welder: :thumbsup:

awr68 12-23-2015 08:22 AM

I agree with Mike. I actually had a friend stop by when I was installing my SFC's and raising the trans tunnel. He couldn't understand why I would dress all the welds if I was going to put carpet in. I just smiled and said why wouldn't I?

To me it's just a matter of knowing I did the best I could.

Tuske427 12-23-2015 06:03 PM

Sweet build, it's nice seeing another 'bird gettin' some love on here!

MetalWorksClassics 12-28-2015 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by preston (Post 625287)
Looks good and this is not a comment on your shop/work at all, but I've never understood the point of grinding down welds that will be covered in sound damping and carpet. For me personally I find grinding down welds to be extremely tedious and time consuming. Obviously required on things that get paint or Ridler contenders but always seemed so pointless on floors, especially considering you actually lose some theoretical strength.

Is that just considered part of the process of doing a quality job ? I mean there is no functional reason to grind down internal hidden welds is there ?

Very good question, and thanks everyone for the input...for us it is mostly a preference of wanting our work to look as clean as possible, and for the floors to look stock...if down the line someone pulls back the carpet and sees thick weld lines, it is obvious there was floor work performed...we'd prefer it not show...

MetalWorksClassics 12-28-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuske427 (Post 625386)
Sweet build, it's nice seeing another 'bird gettin' some love on here!

Thanks a lot...your build is looking awesome!!!

MetalWorksClassics 12-28-2015 01:49 PM

Front stub
 
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Here we are starting to mock up the Firebird's components...starting with the front stub.

Sonar Chief 12-28-2015 02:16 PM

The floor pans came out great ... I really like how you guys use your fork-lift a lot, man that must come in handy!

Michael

MetalWorksClassics 12-30-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonar Chief (Post 625806)
The floor pans came out great ... I really like how you guys use your fork-lift a lot, man that must come in handy!

Michael


Yeah...ha ha...the ol forklift is a VERY useful tool around the shop.

MetalWorksClassics 12-30-2015 03:32 PM

Rear wheel mock up
 
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Here we are mocking up the rear wheels/tires...we are liking this.

MetalWorksClassics 01-07-2016 04:12 PM

Frame connector
 
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Here we are installing the passenger side frame connector. We also made the front stub "bolt in" in case the clip ever had to come back out.

MetalWorksClassics 01-07-2016 04:13 PM

Frame connector continued...
 
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The finished passenger side...

WSSix 01-08-2016 11:06 AM

Wheels look good and fill up the well nicely. Will you be rolling the fender lip as well?

MetalWorksClassics 01-15-2016 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WSSix (Post 626808)
Wheels look good and fill up the well nicely. Will you be rolling the fender lip as well?

No plans to roll the lip...we will have enough room with the mini-tubs to clear.

romayo 01-15-2016 09:02 AM

nice smooth welds

MetalWorksClassics 01-20-2016 03:49 PM

Frame connector...driver's side
 
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And here is the driver's side...

MetalWorksClassics 01-28-2016 03:05 PM

Engine mock up
 
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Time to mock up the Butler Performance engine and Tremec 5 spd.

WSSix 01-29-2016 09:35 AM

Looks like it belongs in there.

Gscherer78ta 01-29-2016 12:21 PM

What oil pan are you using on that engine? Looking really good!

MetalWorksClassics 02-10-2016 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gscherer78ta (Post 628669)
What oil pan are you using on that engine? Looking really good!

The oil pan is from Canton...it came on the Butler Motor...looks sharp, fits great.

MetalWorksClassics 02-12-2016 04:39 PM

Mock up
 
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Continued mock-up of the radiator and gas tank.

MetalWorksClassics 02-15-2016 02:55 PM

Custom gas door
 
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Our customer wanted a custom gas door, so we fab'd up a mounting plate.

MetalWorksClassics 02-23-2016 04:30 PM

Rear suspension and rear end mock up
 
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Mocking up the rear suspension and rear end.

tubbed69 02-23-2016 04:47 PM

Very nice fab work,I like that gas cap:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

waynieZ 02-23-2016 07:28 PM

I agree, very nice.

preston 02-24-2016 05:32 PM

Fab question -

Looking at pictures of that gas cap install, you show a picture of it welded in and sanded pretty heavily. At this point, you can still see the voids in the weld. This is what my metal work looks like after grinding/sanding. Then, in the next picture, it shows it completely sanded and smooth with no voids.

Was the first picture just an intermediate step, or do you go back in and weld it again to fill in the voids, and then do the final grinding to all smooth metal ?

MetalWorksClassics 03-01-2016 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by preston (Post 630977)
Fab question -

Looking at pictures of that gas cap install, you show a picture of it welded in and sanded pretty heavily. At this point, you can still see the voids in the weld. This is what my metal work looks like after grinding/sanding. Then, in the next picture, it shows it completely sanded and smooth with no voids.

Was the first picture just an intermediate step, or do you go back in and weld it again to fill in the voids, and then do the final grinding to all smooth metal ?


Thanks for the question...yes, it was just an intermediate photo...


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